DUST Search - Feedback, warlords 1.0... includes survey

Dravok Silverblood wrote:

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

My reaction to warbarges is hostile! Copy/paste from different thread:

Warbarges are not real content, just a pretty menu where you farm components and upgrade stuff. It's basically one of those freemium mobile games, and like a mobile game, it's not fun, and heavily monetized to the point of being obnoxious. Wait an unreasonable amount of time to get what you want, or spend a lot of money and speed things up, and to even claim some items created by a subsystem costs even more time/money. People paying money to get access to the damage bonus (while everyone else lags behind, and can't be comparatively competitive) is straying into serious P2W territory.

I was fine with the instant boosting, booster stacking, respecs, BPOs returning to the market, Apex suits (though colors are gaudy and unfashionable). I could tolerate loyalty ranks despite them counting AUR spendings massively more than any other factors. I didn't like strongboxes because they manipulatively prey on human psychological susceptibilities regarding the addictive nature of unknown rewards, and the rarity of keys under normal circumstances was excessive, but ultimately I could tolerate strongboxes. Warbarges cross a line, and frankly I find it insulting that this is the central "content" of an "expansion".

Not to be rude. but it's an added feature. Eve has many of these. You can choose to participate or not. You don't have to take part in all the content. You don't have to pay aurum. when i started eve many years ago the skill tree to fully max out would take 70 years. NO BODY COULD DO IT. thats why i play eve you have to pick a niche and stick with it. So something that takes time I'm a fan of.

The gui okay its a little tacky. but then the industry window in eve isn't much in the way of state of the art either. Its a game not a nasa test site. which look pretty dull as well. Feel free to apply to cpm, ccp, or go make a better game yourself.

overall in the end you will be making more isk, sp, and doing more damage. something which every player has been asking for a more elite tier to look forward too. Or if you're adhd go buy it now.

Support 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name in honor of Cat Merc's cat which recently passed away.

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Wolfica Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 784	Posted - 2015.02.06 09:02:00 - [1] - Quote Warlords 1.0 survey CCP Rattati wrote: The players, true reaction, ie warbarge upgrading behaviour, does not seem to be that hostile, so I recommend you tone down the OP title or take the risk of a forum vacation. after reading that, i had to know. because personally i wanted to throw my ps3 controller at some ones face when i saw the "warbarge". lets find out the communities response, shall we. contact: [email protected] twitter:@Wolfica514 Skype:Wolfica.514 OG Director of FA, and owner of TLoDT
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12021	Posted - 2015.02.06 09:11:00 - [2] - Quote My reaction to warbarges is hostile! Copy/paste from different thread: Warbarges are not real content, just a pretty menu where you farm components and upgrade stuff. It's basically one of those freemium mobile games, and like a mobile game, it's not fun, and heavily monetized to the point of being obnoxious. Wait an unreasonable amount of time to get what you want, or spend a lot of money and speed things up, and to even claim some items created by a subsystem costs even more time/money. People paying money to get access to the damage bonus (while everyone else lags behind, and can't be comparatively competitive) is straying into serious P2W territory. I was fine with the instant boosting, booster stacking, respecs, BPOs returning to the market, Apex suits (though colors are gaudy and unfashionable). I didn't like strongboxes because they manipulatively prey on human psychological susceptibilities regarding the addictive nature of unknown rewards, and the rarity of keys under normal circumstances was excessive, but ultimately I could tolerate strongboxes. Warbarges cross a line, and frankly I find it insulting that this is the central "content" of an "expansion". Support 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name in honor of Cat Merc's cat which recently passed away.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 9498	Posted - 2015.02.06 09:11:00 - [3] - Quote Wolfica wrote: Warlords 1.0 survey CCP Rattati wrote: The players, true reaction, ie warbarge upgrading behaviour, does not seem to be that hostile, so I recommend you tone down the OP title or take the risk of a forum vacation. after reading that, i had to know. because personally i wanted to throw my ps3 controller at some ones face when i saw the "warbarge". lets find out the communities response, shall we. Democracy! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name!* *~Democracy will win!*
Ghosts Chance Intara Direct Action Caldari State 2921	Posted - 2015.02.06 11:49:00 - [4] - Quote CCP ratatti seems to have forgotten how willing a few are to bite the bullet in favor of the many. many folks who spent cash on the warbarge (aka that wwarbarge upgrading behavior he sites as a positive) are turning around and warning everyone elsee against upgrading the warbarge now. meaning the fact that people are spending on the warbarge does NOT mean that they view is in a positive light. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Dravok Silverblood State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 41	Posted - 2015.02.06 15:40:00 - [5] - Quote lots of spelling and grammatical errors last question is unclear on survey. I like the war barge idea, and the bonus's it is better then not having one. Its a good first step on making them an actual thing that eve players can see. I do disagree with being able to buy better weapons and suits. I will be behind everyone as i take the time to slowly build it out. If game play gets to hard because i'm the only one with out it. then i will sadly stop playing dust and stick with eve till i can't afford to plex my account. Years ago CCP promised walking in stations. And then we had the door patch. Don't get excited Dust.
Dravok Silverblood State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 41	Posted - 2015.02.06 16:02:00 - [6] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: My reaction to warbarges is hostile! Copy/paste from different thread: Warbarges are not real content, just a pretty menu where you farm components and upgrade stuff. It's basically one of those freemium mobile games, and like a mobile game, it's not fun, and heavily monetized to the point of being obnoxious. Wait an unreasonable amount of time to get what you want, or spend a lot of money and speed things up, and to even claim some items created by a subsystem costs even more time/money. People paying money to get access to the damage bonus (while everyone else lags behind, and can't be comparatively competitive) is straying into serious P2W territory. I was fine with the instant boosting, booster stacking, respecs, BPOs returning to the market, Apex suits (though colors are gaudy and unfashionable). I could tolerate loyalty ranks despite them counting AUR spendings massively more than any other factors. I didn't like strongboxes because they manipulatively prey on human psychological susceptibilities regarding the addictive nature of unknown rewards, and the rarity of keys under normal circumstances was excessive, but ultimately I could tolerate strongboxes. Warbarges cross a line, and frankly I find it insulting that this is the central "content" of an "expansion". Not to be rude. but it's an added feature. Eve has many of these. You can choose to participate or not. You don't have to take part in all the content. You don't have to pay aurum. when i started eve many years ago the skill tree to fully max out would take 70 years. NO BODY COULD DO IT. thats why i play eve you have to pick a niche and stick with it. So something that takes time I'm a fan of. Years ago CCP promised walking in stations. And then we had the door patch. Don't get excited Dust.
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 620	Posted - 2015.02.06 16:15:00 - [7] - Quote I'm definitely not hostile to the new warbage.jpg because it doesn't really DO anything so I just don't care. Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana 601	Posted - 2015.02.06 16:58:00 - [8] - Quote don't care. It's like the gardening in Plants VS Zombies. Just meh. Dont really want or hate it. No Skill Required
SoTa PoP Heaven's Lost Property 6017	Posted - 2015.02.06 17:08:00 - [9] - Quote Dear CCP Ratttatta Why did you even bother giving this update a name? This update gave us two good things: Better fitting system, and return of the SL WP gain. Warbarges themselves is a harsh reminder of what CCP plans to do with Dust - Farm it for Legion. You didn't get 'hostile' feedback, probably because after 3 years of this BS we've grown numb to even trying to communicate our disdain over the BS. Farm us more, please, you seem to think it makes us happy.... n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
Commander Noctus Gallente Loyalist 201	Posted - 2015.02.06 17:13:00 - [10] - Quote Don't really care so far. Am waiting to see how it churns out. Do I have to buy aurum for that thing? No, I'll just wait, as we all have. Does the warbarge help me in fights? Not really. Does the warbage help any reds I fight? Again, not really. That 5% really the only thing that affects me, and even then it'll still be the same squad of Nyain, or the same squad of Pure Evil stomping who won't even need that bonus. Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.

Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 393	Posted - 2015.02.06 19:42:00 - [11] - Quote Wolfica wrote: Warlords 1.0 survey CCP Rattati wrote: The players, true reaction, ie warbarge upgrading behaviour, does not seem to be that hostile, so I recommend you tone down the OP title or take the risk of a forum vacation. after reading that, i had to know. because personally i wanted to throw my ps3 controller at some ones face when i saw the "warbarge". lets find out the communities response, shall we. The warbarge is a big meh, you need to spend either an exorbitant amount of time or money to upgrade it, so much so that it ceases to be a feature for most people and just becomes a menu option they need to move off of before entering the battle finder. Im not really mad or not mad about it, I just dont care at all.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12026	Posted - 2015.02.06 20:18:00 - [12] - Quote Dravok Silverblood wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: My reaction to warbarges is hostile! Copy/paste from different thread: Warbarges are not real content, just a pretty menu where you farm components and upgrade stuff. It's basically one of those freemium mobile games, and like a mobile game, it's not fun, and heavily monetized to the point of being obnoxious. Wait an unreasonable amount of time to get what you want, or spend a lot of money and speed things up, and to even claim some items created by a subsystem costs even more time/money. People paying money to get access to the damage bonus (while everyone else lags behind, and can't be comparatively competitive) is straying into serious P2W territory. I was fine with the instant boosting, booster stacking, respecs, BPOs returning to the market, Apex suits (though colors are gaudy and unfashionable). I could tolerate loyalty ranks despite them counting AUR spendings massively more than any other factors. I didn't like strongboxes because they manipulatively prey on human psychological susceptibilities regarding the addictive nature of unknown rewards, and the rarity of keys under normal circumstances was excessive, but ultimately I could tolerate strongboxes. Warbarges cross a line, and frankly I find it insulting that this is the central "content" of an "expansion". Not to be rude. but it's an added feature. Eve has many of these. You can choose to participate or not. You don't have to take part in all the content. You don't have to pay aurum. when i started eve many years ago the skill tree to fully max out would take 70 years. NO BODY COULD DO IT. thats why i play eve you have to pick a niche and stick with it. So something that takes time I'm a fan of. The gui okay its a little tacky. but then the industry window in eve isn't much in the way of state of the art either. Its a game not a nasa test site. which look pretty dull as well. Feel free to apply to cpm, ccp, or go make a better game yourself. overall in the end you will be making more isk, sp, and doing more damage. something which every player has been asking for a more elite tier to look forward too. Or if you're adhd go buy it now. So I don't have to take part in the whole warbarge thing, but if I don't, I'l fall behind everyone else and their built-in damage bonuses (which AUR users will get access to and max out waaaay before anyone else; for a time they will be the only ones with access to it). I'm affected whether or not I use the warbage, because I have to fight those that use it. I would not have much of a problem with warbarges if it wasn't designed in such a way that I will fall behind for not using it. Support 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name in honor of Cat Merc's cat which recently passed away.
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 880	Posted - 2015.02.06 21:14:00 - [13] - Quote its pretty much useless to every1. especially new players. better off playing some other game. the potential this game had seems to be long gone now. its been squandered to many times. if only we could pilot the mcc. id end the matches real quick.
octavian x Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.02.06 21:36:00 - [14] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: its pretty much useless to every1. especially new players. better off playing some other game. the potential this game had seems to be long gone now. its been squandered to many times. +1
Cassa-Nova KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 77	Posted - 2015.02.06 23:47:00 - [15] - Quote done and Signed Amarr Faction Suit Colour Schemes
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 877	Posted - 2015.02.07 02:08:00 - [16] - Quote End of the day, it's an optional feature which you are at no disadvantage by not putting real money into. You have bigger things to worry about than this Who cares what some sniper has to say
Aver Amarn Heaven's Lost Property 18	Posted - 2015.02.10 15:08:00 - [17] - Quote I gots me a ship that produces pieces of scrap metal that I can use to produce more pieces of scrap metal.. AWESOME!! Honestly, its not much of a big deal, eventually it'll do me some good, so why not use it now and then? People are getting pissed off at something they don't have to use for a 1% bonus in primary weapon damage. Even with people paying, it keeps Dust running. If I get killed by a few Warbarge boosted "Steelmine" Boundless in between, then so be it. People payed for this, a game isn't cheap to run, and with frequent updates offering new content that I'm not paying for, I'm extremely grateful. pü¡püêpÇüsñ£t¬¦püípéâpéôpÇüpüépü¬püƒpü»S+òpéÆpéäpüúpüªpüäpéï?n+üYes. I watch too much anime. No, I'm not gonna stop.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 914	Posted - 2015.02.10 15:47:00 - [18] - Quote My reaction to Warlords 1.0. I'm satisfied. War barge is kinda cool. I'd like to see where they go with it. Remember this is just the starting point for the barge. And if you hate it, you can ignore it. Won't really matter. I don't mind the "monetization" either. Why would I, doesn't effect me and makes no effect on game play. CCP having more money makes the game better also. I'd rather whine about where this game is going after PS3! Can everybody cry about that instead? Dust/Legion for PSN and XBL! Who cares what some sniper has to say
Her Chosen Grade No.2 229	Posted - 2015.02.11 01:04:00 - [19] - Quote did and done STRONG BOX ROLE CALL
Starlight Burner ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 123	Posted - 2015.02.11 11:30:00 - [20] - Quote WarBarge is complete garbage at the moment. Thank god for CCP Rattati!! Rogue Relics is my home away from home.



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