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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.05 23:24:00 -
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Here is a list of the features added in patches since 1.9. I do not include the maps, because they were already designed over a year ago by Logicloop but left unimplemented.
Loyalty ranks
Daily missions
Strongboxes
Market agents
Stackable boosters
Instant boosters
Warbarges
RNG BPOs
APEX BPOs
Every single one of these features is strongly, if not entirely AUR based.
There has been no new content purely for the purpose of improving the game.
Why? Where is all of this money going? There's an immense amount of monetisation going on here but none of it seems to be going into the game except to milk more money.
I am disappointed. Warlords is a flagship update but it has no new non-AUR content. What's happening?
In comparison all the other 1.0 updates added an immense amount of new content that was actually accessible without paywalling. Uprising, for all of its flaws, had a vast amount of new content. Chromosome added new kit, as did Codex, E3, and Precursor.
Warlords is the only 1.0 update that hasn't added some. Even with a reduced dev team to consider, this stacks up very poorly.
:Bittervetting intensifies:
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bathtubist
Horizons' Edge
31
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Posted - 2015.02.05 23:30:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Here is a list of the features added in patches since 1.9. I do not include the maps, because they were already designed over a year ago by Logicloop but left unimplemented.
Loyalty ranks
Daily missions
Strongboxes
Market agents
Stackable boosters
Instant boosters
Warbarges
RNG BPOs
APEX BPOs
Every single one of these features is strongly, if not entirely AUR based.
There has been no new content purely for the purpose of improving the game.
Why? Where is all of this money going? There's an immense amount of monetisation going on here but none of it seems to be going into the game except to milk more money.
I am disappointed. Warlords is a flagship update but it has no new non-AUR content. What's happening?
In comparison all the other 1.0 updates added an immense amount of new content that was actually accessible without paywalling. Uprising, for all of its flaws, had a vast amount of new content. Chromosome added new kit, as did Codex, E3, and Precursor.
Warlords is the only 1.0 update that hasn't added some. Even with a reduced dev team to consider, this stacks up very poorly.
Thought we were goig to board the ships at some point
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xavier zor
Rogue Instincts
565
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Posted - 2015.02.05 23:32:00 -
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Here is my guess:
Wages, CPM trip to Shanghai, running costs for server
looking for PC corporation
also looking for lonely heavies to knife >:)
heavies looking for me
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gekko k
Grundstein Automation
Property of Negative-Impact
11
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Posted - 2015.02.05 23:32:00 -
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I tried hacking Jara so that I could user her, but to no avail. She's not like a vehicle. |
TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2015.02.05 23:34:00 -
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Yes i'd like to know where it's going as well and a concrete answer on if dust will ever be on ps4 or pc as well before i spend more money.
I want a yes or no, no more hopes or negative bs, i want an actual dev or a cpm to convey what a dev has said. I want to know for certain where this game is going. I'm already buying another lolps3 to play this game as it is.
Decisions are always made way in advance with business (generally anyway), ccp is a business so it must know where it's going with dust and i'd or rather we, the general playerbase would like to know where we stand on what is going to happen with the game.
Is it getting thrown away eventually when the ps3 becomes even more obsolete than it already laughably is?
is it simply the test area for bits of legion?
is it getting ported in the future?.
Sorry to sound self entitled but i have spent a fk load so i feel a bit entitled to know at least where the game is going and if it's worth me continuing to spend more on the game like i want to.
This is TechMechMeds tanker.
Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2.
Enjoy.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
7367
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Posted - 2015.02.05 23:43:00 -
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They are probably trying to reach a certain level of revenue to either help keep Dust running longer than it otherwise would, or are trying to prove to the upper management that new art assets are worth being dedicated to Dust 514.
The fact that they don't have any dedicated artists left should continue to be noted.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3142
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Posted - 2015.02.05 23:43:00 -
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Donuts.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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G Felix
Terminus Defense Force
488
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Posted - 2015.02.06 00:02:00 -
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I would really, REALLY respect the Dev that has the guts to respond to this thread. The question Arkena poses is not confrontational or disrespectful, and it is completely valid. Your move, CCP.
Side note, you left the automatic inertia dampener off your list of new features, and while it is a terrible feature that none of us want, it's at least not entirely geared towards monetization. So I guess there's that.
Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
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7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
449
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Posted - 2015.02.06 00:10:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Here is a list of the features added in patches since 1.9. I do not include the maps, because they were already designed over a year ago by Logicloop but left unimplemented.
Loyalty ranks
Daily missions
Strongboxes
Market agents
Stackable boosters
Instant boosters
Warbarges
RNG BPOs
APEX BPOs
Every single one of these features is strongly, if not entirely AUR based.
There has been no new content purely for the purpose of improving the game.
Why? Where is all of this money going? There's an immense amount of monetisation going on here but none of it seems to be going into the game except to milk more money.
I am disappointed. Warlords is a flagship update but it has no new non-AUR content. What's happening?
In comparison all the other 1.0 updates added an immense amount of new content that was actually accessible without paywalling. Uprising, for all of its flaws, had a vast amount of new content. Chromosome added new kit, as did Codex, E3, and Precursor.
Warlords is the only 1.0 update that hasn't added some. Even with a reduced dev team to consider, this stacks up very poorly.
lol, the million dollar question. However, based off the limited shelf life of the ps3, I would imagine it's being applied to a new game.
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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Freccia di Lybra
Maphia Clan Corporation
467
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Posted - 2015.02.06 00:12:00 -
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...L-Legion?
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
3131
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Posted - 2015.02.06 00:15:00 -
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One would hope that it is additional funding / testing the waters for a future product - aka Legion.
However the complete and total lack of information has me worried. A small sign of respect would go a long way. I dont think many will continue to support this game if there is no future or any actual development on the game other than paywalls.
Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa?
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
124
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Posted - 2015.02.06 00:15:00 -
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Freccia di Lybra wrote:...L-Legion?
That's going to be a different game i think with quite a lot of dust elements to it and some links to eve as well.
This is TechMechMeds tanker.
Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2.
Enjoy.
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BLUNT SMKR
Ahrendee Mercenaries
143
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Posted - 2015.02.06 00:39:00 -
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We are probably just funding legion lol. They are just trying to squeeze wat they can out of this game doing as little as possible. Then drop the game once legion is finished.
TeamWork>KDR
losses only make the wins that much better
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
70
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Posted - 2015.02.06 01:10:00 -
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Danish pastry? |
Major IMPACT
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
86
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Posted - 2015.02.06 01:12:00 -
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Dunno..........................
Maybe they are planning world domination for all I know.
The matches I go in sometimes: my team playing Grand Turismo, random blue decides to play GTA....
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Red Krovvy
Verloren Hoop
0
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Posted - 2015.02.06 01:15:00 -
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if there anything like CCP Atlanta its going to strippers and top shelf hooch. True fact
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Grimmiers
783
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Posted - 2015.02.06 01:23:00 -
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Apparently we are getting more frames added to the framerate. That goes hand in hand with improvements to pc though.
There were a lot of good hotfix changes, but the actual patches seem to be bloating the game rather than moving it forward. |
Lac Nokomis
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
62
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Posted - 2015.02.06 02:33:00 -
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My guess would be that when the devs were pulled to work on EVE or EVE: Valkyrie, Dust was nowhere near financially viable. Thusly a bar was set. My prediction is that was that bar is met, we will start to see other improvements to the game.
Why else would the updates contain so much AUR promoting stuff?
There is always a possibility that Dust will be shut down unexpectedly, but that possibility always exists, I guess.
Of note, I have been lurking the Devs and this community for the last 6 months and I feel as though this update was a big deal for the current dev team. It kinda sees like a weight has been lifted off of their shoulders.
Does anyone else notice more friendly, light hearted Dev posts? Dev tweets about how they are playing right now... All stuff I've never seen before. Kinda fun to think about either way... |
Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
335
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Posted - 2015.02.06 02:52:00 -
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It's because before dust was in the development stage and would be expected to make a loss whilst it's established
Now it's a mature product it's expected to at least break even and with the limited player base it means milking players daily
ADS Ramming Revenge!
Should Have Stayed Inside (the Tank)
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
2850
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:03:00 -
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Making CCP the future Activision?
That or they are just attempting to find the guy who sneaks cheese to the Rats. (The hamsters were too expensive due to me and Falcon always eating them. He won 163 - 97.  )
Wait... Rattati, why do you smell like cheese?
Quoth the Raven "Nevermore!" - Edgar Allan Poe
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emm kay
Direct Action Resources
249
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:28:00 -
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the money is going to pull ccp out of their hole.
i think rattati is a great lead, if not a reinessence dev. Last year ccp lost millions in usd to dust, and for little payout.
This money needs to be paid back.
knowing ccp and rattati, this can be done.
However this will not last forever. And rattati knows this.
Here is what i'd do for the next update;
1)assign Frame to get some data on new player experience.
2)give frame a friend
3)give us racial parity. I would not mind if ccp completely dropped the dev timeline to say 'we will get racial parity done early april'
4)give us open metrics. This means API for dust characters. (Not pay for api, free api) logibro and his team could prolly finish that in 4 weeks tops.
5)BPOs need to go (again) they encourage players not to buy more aurum etc.
6) I know how you guys like weapons design. get some **** on that.
7)an open ear saves in the research field.
There is a reason you never see me in battle.
it's because I see you first.
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
4000
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:44:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Yes i'd like to know where it's going as well and a concrete answer on if dust will ever be on ps4 or pc as well before i spend more money.
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Sorry to sound self entitled but i have spent a fk load so i feel a bit entitled to know at least where the game is going and if it's worth me continuing to spend more on the game like i want to.
Honestly, you shouldn't have to "pay" anything to know if a developer is planning on supporting things or what the future plans are going to be. Players felt betrayed before the Red Fanfest because they were explicitly told that Dust was a long-term investment for CCP that would X features coming eventually, and CCP said "Dust-dead, now look at Legion on a different platform!"
There was some press after that, and it's been firmly in the region of the question mark ever since. CCP started added more monetization to Dust as Arkena suggested, but it's not like they've publicly stated too much. There's that roadmap, but CCP-corporate never exactly walked back the canned-Dust maybe-Legion business.
I wouldn't spend a cent on anything CCP makes while things remain as vague as they appear to be right now.
The Dren Swarm fiasco.
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Kelrie Nae'bre
not in a corporation
234
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Posted - 2015.02.06 14:47:00 -
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It's a good question, but does anyone expect an answer? |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1483
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Posted - 2015.02.06 15:09:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Making CCP the future Activision? That or they are just attempting to find the guy who sneaks cheese to the Rats. (The hamsters were too expensive due to me and Falcon always eating them. He won 163 - 97. ) Wait... Rattati, why do you smell like cheese?
Yeah but "Is it worth it" COD alone sells 5+ million copies on day one for activision. Dust on the other hand has a very small dwindling community and this current update isn't doing anything to keep that community around..
The current "activision path" CCP is taking is spitting on the shoes of everyone in the community, new and especially vet players who have already invested tons of time and money into Dust before Rattati and his team of pirates took over.. |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
1505
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Posted - 2015.02.06 15:20:00 -
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Kelrie Nae'bre wrote:It's a good question, but does anyone expect an answer?
When the financial statements come out this month or next we'll have an answer.
Or did we forget that CCP releases that info again?
Life's a numbers game. Good fuuuucking luck loading the dice in YOUR favor.
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sammus420
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
442
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Posted - 2015.02.06 15:27:00 -
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BLUNT SMKR wrote:We are probably just funding legion lol. They are just trying to squeeze wat they can out of this game doing as little as possible. Then drop the game once legion is finished.
Legion's never coming out.
But seriously, how did you not realized they were doing exactly this when they announced a promotional sale 2 days before they announced that they were working on legion and then had nothing to say about dust?
They've been milking the remaining player base for as long as they can, and I for one think it's hilarious people are starting to catch on. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
4005
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Posted - 2015.02.07 16:52:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Kelrie Nae'bre wrote:It's a good question, but does anyone expect an answer? When the financial statements come out this month or next we'll have an answer. Or did we forget that CCP releases that info again?
I can't say I bother looking at that sort of report, but I have to admit I'm a bit curious how they'd phrase things. They never seemed like the best organized business.
The Dren Swarm fiasco.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
1516
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Posted - 2015.02.07 16:53:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Kelrie Nae'bre wrote:It's a good question, but does anyone expect an answer? When the financial statements come out this month or next we'll have an answer. Or did we forget that CCP releases that info again? I can't say I bother looking at that sort of report, but I have to admit I'm a bit curious how they'd phrase things. They never seemed like the best organized business.
Organized yes, managed BWAH HAHAHA
I really DO hate you all.
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Michael Arck
6168
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Posted - 2015.02.07 17:39:00 -
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Street smarts says you guys are being juiced.
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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tastzlike chicken
ROGUE SPADES
290
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Posted - 2015.02.07 17:50:00 -
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DUST 514 is CCP's kickstarter for Valkyrie. -But, don't panic, buy Aurum. Go shopping; everything will be fine.
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
428
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Posted - 2015.02.07 18:25:00 -
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Where's the money going? Why, to fund Hilmar's mansion of course!
http://gregwang.com/files/2011/04/100-million-mansion-photo2.jpg
Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
81
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Posted - 2015.02.07 18:36:00 -
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CCP is creating a new game based on UE4, AWS, for the PS4.
FF2015 will showcase Valkyrie with the Morpheus on the PS4.
Watch the Prophesy trailer and think about what they are telling you.
Mordu's Legion will be the first VR-FPS.
CCP fix your latency, and your monetization efforts are creative and well thought out-
CCP Rogue good job! |
deezy dabest
2137
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Posted - 2015.02.07 19:11:00 -
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or they are just milking all they can out of us fools that are sticking to the ps3 for them.
New Player Experience is and always has been garbage. No new players means that no matter what revenues will fall as people move on or stop having the urge to spend.
As far as I can tell there is no advertising at all for Dust. Advertising a game that runs off 80% of new players any way would not be a strong business decision. |
Jathniel
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1471
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Posted - 2015.02.07 19:14:00 -
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The game is on life support, what do you expect?
If it can't keep itself afloat monetarily it will close.
Rattati and the remaining Dust team, have worked hard. If they were in charge of Dust from the beginning, maybe things would have been different. But we're talking about a Dust population that barely hits 10% of the regular EVE population (vs. Tranquility ALONE).
What does Dust hit? 1500 players? 2000? Maybe 3000? on Average??
Say ALL of them bought respecs... What is it? $20 or $25 USD?
1500*25 = $37,500
2000*25 = $50,000
3000*25 = $75,000
Congratulations, at peak capacity (assuming everyone spends money and bought a respec), Dust can barely afford a single senior developer. But we know that many people don't spend ANY money in this game whatsoever. So that's a generous figure.
Let's instead be a bit more realistic...
Let's say 80% of Dust's PEAK hour population (would be roughly around 2400 or so) each bought a respec...
2400*25 = $60,000
Maybe they respec'd a few times...
(2400*25)*8 = $480,000. Congratulations, you have enough money to pay for 2 or 3 developers, and maybe fund your actual infrastructure for another year.
Wait a minute, FOTMs make the dust settle on respecs.
Long-term boosters increase the intervals at which people make aurum purchases.
BPOs never run out, so never need to be bought again.
Uh oh, we need to secure a new means of making money.
Presenting, Warlords. 
All of this is conjecture of course.
And, I know it's disappointing, but you seriously cannot blame them for this. The community is probably just as much at fault for Dust being backed into a corner as CCP is.
If you want the game to succeed, it is going to be paid for, one way or another.
Retired
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Jathniel
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1471
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Posted - 2015.02.07 19:19:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Kelrie Nae'bre wrote:It's a good question, but does anyone expect an answer? When the financial statements come out this month or next we'll have an answer. Or did we forget that CCP releases that info again?
I'd love to see it.
Retired
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The Noob Destroyer
1258
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Posted - 2015.02.07 19:20:00 -
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In b4 CCP silences Arkena for speaking out just like they silenced GJR with a ban and how they threatened CatMerc with a ban for speaking out.
No forum warrior is safe from CCP during these times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_LxyhCJpsM
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Bone Doc
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2015.02.07 19:57:00 -
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Dust 51PS4
CCP would be fools to not invest development into the ps4 as they already built a community on here from dust514. |
7th Son 7
BLITZKRIEG7
473
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Posted - 2015.02.07 20:02:00 -
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The Noob Destroyer wrote:In b4 CCP silences Arkena for speaking out just like they silenced GJR with a ban and how they threatened CatMerc with a ban for speaking out.
No forum warrior is safe from CCP during these times.
****** ****'s 
Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
1519
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Posted - 2015.02.07 20:27:00 -
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The Noob Destroyer wrote:In b4 CCP silences Arkena for speaking out just like they silenced GJR with a ban and how they threatened CatMerc with a ban for speaking out.
No forum warrior is safe from CCP during these times.
Sure they are, don't be a spergling, keep it civil, and maybe accomplish something.
I know is hard when your mad, but take a day and go hmmmm, is this smart?
Cause like biomassing and then begging for reinstatement, it's not.
I really DO hate you all.
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Piercing Serenity
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
845
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Posted - 2015.02.07 20:33:00 -
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I agree with your points. However, something should be said in defense of CCP as well.
Some of the big, non-AUR elements that were planned for Warlords 1.0 were pushed back into Warlords 1.1. While I think that there would be much less complaint if we had the monitization aspects in addition to new PC mechanics and simple trading / crafting, I think it is much better that CCP pushed those back so that they could be worked on more extensively.
TL;DR - Warlords 1.1 seems to be a very Non-AUR oriented patch, just due to the bulk of features. So, I think we will see two extremes of the spectrum instead of a general 50/50 split we'd like
Closed Beta Vet (E3 Build), Former PFBHz
Best Corps Battled (Personally): Imperfects, TeamPlayers, Hellstorm
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
14990
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Posted - 2015.02.07 20:45:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:The Noob Destroyer wrote:In b4 CCP silences Arkena for speaking out just like they silenced GJR with a ban and how they threatened CatMerc with a ban for speaking out.
No forum warrior is safe from CCP during these times. Sure they are, don't be a spergling, keep it civil, and maybe accomplish something. I know is hard when your mad, but take a day and go hmmmm, is this smart? Cause like biomassing and then begging for reinstatement, it's not.
My thread was the definition of civil until Rattati came in and threatened me with a ban.
No joke, you can see the stark difference before and after Rattati made that ridiculous comment.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=190123&find=unread
There is no defending this, it is ludicrous.
And then they lock the thread because Rattati's comment understandably turned it into a **** fest.
You don't threaten players with a forum ban after they write CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM and expect people to not get pissed.
Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan!
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!
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Mex-0
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
352
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Posted - 2015.02.07 20:48:00 -
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I would really love to have dust on ps4.
Then I get to throw my old ps3 away to buy a ps4.
Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
3217
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:02:00 -
[43] - Quote
I am putting my guess into "getting DUST 514 to make any kind of money", "development cost", and "maintenance cost." Let's start with the two latter ones because they are the easiest to talk about without getting a tad to theoretical.
Running DUST 514 costs money in regards to keeping the hamsters running, paying people to kick the hamsters when they stop running, and paying people whose job is to come to the forums with some bit of information. Development cost is obviously just paying the coders who are typing in those features.
The first is obvious as well but you can go a little tinfoil but not overly. You can clearly look at it as "well, CCP wants to make money and more, aggressive options to monetize the game makes money." This is blunt and is pretty much true. But we can go deeper. CCP took a hell of a beating with making DUST 514. If they can say "hey look, the game made money!" it can be a success even if the way it made money was milking us like obese cattle. The reason for this might be to make Legion look like a less risky project than it is.
CEOPyrex went with "investors and shareholders have the real say in a company" in regards to CCP. It could, maybe possibly potentially, be the case that "moving forward on a remake/port to the PC of a PS3 game that cost the company 18 million dollars" is simply out of the question. If DUST can be seen to have made a profit, Legion can be less of a risky thing.
"As you can see by the chart, DUST 514 made revenue with each iteration of new monetization options. That was with a community of 20,000 active accounts. With Legion being on the PC and potentially the PS4 at a later time, we expect that number to rise to well over 100,000 based on the trends in 'market extrapolation methodics slope trends' and active EVE accounts that would migrate over to Legion. We could even make that migration more enticing by implementing benefits between EVE and Legion, thereby ensuring or surpassing that number."
But that isn't the crappy thing. The crappy thing is that *if* Legion comes out, you can be damn sure it is going to have the same aggressive monetization beyond just boosters, respecs, and cosmetic skins. The money milking genie is out of the bottle; no amount of "but you promised that these measures were temporary" and "this is treating us like brainless cattle!" will make it go away. Even if Legion is just DUST 514 on the PC/PS4, that genie is officially too gorged to fit back into from whence it came.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
1521
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:13:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:The Noob Destroyer wrote:In b4 CCP silences Arkena for speaking out just like they silenced GJR with a ban and how they threatened CatMerc with a ban for speaking out.
No forum warrior is safe from CCP during these times. Sure they are, don't be a spergling, keep it civil, and maybe accomplish something. I know is hard when your mad, but take a day and go hmmmm, is this smart? Cause like biomassing and then begging for reinstatement, it's not. My thread was the definition of civil until Rattati came in and threatened me with a ban. No joke, you can see the stark difference before and after Rattati made that ridiculous comment. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=190123&find=unreadThere is no defending this, it is ludicrous. And then they lock the thread because Rattati's comment understandably turned it into a **** fest. You don't threaten players with a forum ban after they write CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM and expect people to not get pissed.
Read your title.
Read your sub headings.
Read your rhetorical questions.
Re-read the tone of the entire piece.
Now remember you have a fight with Ratatti about EVERYTHING.
not even remotely surprised he threatened you, im more surprised he didn't just outright ban you.
Cat, youre a passionate player, i commend you for that.
But youre not the only one.
If you still think you're a martyr about this, ill gladly help you write your next scathing essay, i do that siht for a living.
I really DO hate you all.
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
14990
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:35:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:The Noob Destroyer wrote:In b4 CCP silences Arkena for speaking out just like they silenced GJR with a ban and how they threatened CatMerc with a ban for speaking out.
No forum warrior is safe from CCP during these times. Sure they are, don't be a spergling, keep it civil, and maybe accomplish something. I know is hard when your mad, but take a day and go hmmmm, is this smart? Cause like biomassing and then begging for reinstatement, it's not. My thread was the definition of civil until Rattati came in and threatened me with a ban. No joke, you can see the stark difference before and after Rattati made that ridiculous comment. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=190123&find=unreadThere is no defending this, it is ludicrous. And then they lock the thread because Rattati's comment understandably turned it into a **** fest. You don't threaten players with a forum ban after they write CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM and expect people to not get pissed. Read your title. Read your sub headings. Read your rhetorical questions. Re-read the tone of the entire piece. Now remember you have a fight with Ratatti about EVERYTHING. not even remotely surprised he threatened you, im more surprised he didn't just outright ban you. Cat, youre a passionate player, i commend you for that. But youre not the only one. If you still think you're a martyr about this, ill gladly help you write your next scathing essay, i do that siht for a living.
I had an aneurysm from the stupidity displayed in this post.
*Waits for ban*
^What non constructive criticism looks like
Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan!
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
1521
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:53:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:The Noob Destroyer wrote:In b4 CCP silences Arkena for speaking out just like they silenced GJR with a ban and how they threatened CatMerc with a ban for speaking out.
No forum warrior is safe from CCP during these times. Sure they are, don't be a spergling, keep it civil, and maybe accomplish something. I know is hard when your mad, but take a day and go hmmmm, is this smart? Cause like biomassing and then begging for reinstatement, it's not. My thread was the definition of civil until Rattati came in and threatened me with a ban. No joke, you can see the stark difference before and after Rattati made that ridiculous comment. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=190123&find=unreadThere is no defending this, it is ludicrous. And then they lock the thread because Rattati's comment understandably turned it into a **** fest. You don't threaten players with a forum ban after they write CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM and expect people to not get pissed. Read your title. Read your sub headings. Read your rhetorical questions. Re-read the tone of the entire piece. Now remember you have a fight with Ratatti about EVERYTHING. not even remotely surprised he threatened you, im more surprised he didn't just outright ban you. Cat, youre a passionate player, i commend you for that. But youre not the only one. If you still think you're a martyr about this, ill gladly help you write your next scathing essay, i do that siht for a living. I had an aneurysm from the stupidity displayed in this post. *Waits for ban* ^What non constructive criticism looks like See the difference?
Oh Cuuutttteeee, it's trying to be clever and vicious!
Just like every time Ratatti threatens to ban you!
Aweeee!
*smiles at Scatmerc, leaves catnip for him in the dish. And walks away.
I really DO hate you all.
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The Noob Destroyer
1261
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:56:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:The Noob Destroyer wrote:In b4 CCP silences Arkena for speaking out just like they silenced GJR with a ban and how they threatened CatMerc with a ban for speaking out.
No forum warrior is safe from CCP during these times. Sure they are, don't be a spergling, keep it civil, and maybe accomplish something. I know is hard when your mad, but take a day and go hmmmm, is this smart? Cause like biomassing and then begging for reinstatement, it's not.
I am not even going to bother with a defense or response to that jab. Not because I think you are right but you are completely oblivious to what is actually going on. You are so quick to judge what is on the surface that you can't think on any kind of deeper level. Do you even realize why Arkena is disappointed? Can you even comprehend why Cat Merc was offended by a threat of a ban when he was completely civil?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_LxyhCJpsM
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
15000
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Posted - 2015.02.07 21:57:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:
Just like every time Ratatti threatens to ban you!
Aweeee!
*smiles at Scatmerc, leaves catnip for him in the dish. And walks away.
Yeah, no.
Your reply really was useless.
If the title was a bannable offense, everyone on the forums including you, CCP Rattati, and the entire community team, would be banned.
Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan!
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
1521
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Posted - 2015.02.07 22:17:00 -
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The Noob Destroyer wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:The Noob Destroyer wrote:In b4 CCP silences Arkena for speaking out just like they silenced GJR with a ban and how they threatened CatMerc with a ban for speaking out.
No forum warrior is safe from CCP during these times. Sure they are, don't be a spergling, keep it civil, and maybe accomplish something. I know is hard when your mad, but take a day and go hmmmm, is this smart? Cause like biomassing and then begging for reinstatement, it's not. I am not even going to bother with a defense or response to that jab. Not because I think you are right but you are completely oblivious to what is actually going on. You are so quick to judge what is on the surface that you can't think on any kind of deeper level. Do you even realize why Arkena is disappointed? Can you even comprehend why Cat Merc was offended by a threat of a ban when he was completely civil?
See gjr, you play the Messiah all the time, but youre not the only person to figure out what's behind the curtains.
Some of us quite honestly, don't care or dont think it's even nearly as upsetting or alarming as you incite us to believe.
Shanghais bust, legions mothballed, valks gonna flop, ratatti is desperate to make dust profitable, but on an aged console with a beleaguered playerbase, he can only do so much. Hes turning the screws on us yes, becausr he knows we ll comply.
Yelling fire in the burning theatre is already too late, and makes it easy to scream i told you so. Yes aurlords1.0 is a cash grab, especially since now they've moved faction bpos outta the boxes and into the markets, and made the exlab a wbc sink, filing the void with aurum sales.
You want new stuff, you want bugs fixed, you won't broken mechanics changed, all of which were either slated for next patch or bumped back 1.
The aurbarge mechanics aka timers would be fine if they weren't near as long to intice you to pay for their removal, but how else would they squeeze more? Surely not by having a none rtarded loot table. The right stuff is all here, just horribly, horribly! out of order.
but hey, tacos and catnip and egos or something.
I really DO hate you all.
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Golden Day
Heaven's Lost Property
956
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Posted - 2015.02.07 22:21:00 -
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Damn it man why do people say valkyrie is gonna flop if it isn't even out....
im not crazy......( -í° -£-û -í°)
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Pushing Charlie
Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries
639
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Posted - 2015.02.08 00:35:00 -
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The Noob Destroyer wrote:In b4 CCP silences Arkena for speaking out just like they silenced GJR with a ban and how they threatened CatMerc with a ban for speaking out.
No forum warrior is safe from CCP during these times.
Rouge = A time traveling Stalin?!
May we never forget his sacrifice
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
4009
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Posted - 2015.02.08 01:36:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Damn it man why do people say valkyrie is gonna flop if it isn't even out....
Depends on how well VR headsets do, really, since it's apparently exclusive to the Rift? They'll be starting from an install base of 0 since it hasn't launched yet. I guess we'll see.
The Dren Swarm fiasco.
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