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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:31:00 -
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From what i have seen they are just a thing on the side of the game and in no way are integral to anything in dust beyond free random shiny stuff or random pure crap.
Why are people mad that they get involved with something random and get random stuff?, How could you be mad about getting random results from something you know is random?.
Wtf is going on exactly?.
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
2956
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:33:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:From what i have seen they are just a thing on the side of the game and in no way are integral to anything in dust beyond free random shiny stuff or random pure crap.
Why are people mad that they get involved with something random and get random stuff?, How could you be mad about getting random results from something you know is random?.
Wtf is going exactly?.
What do you care?
KDR matchmaking would patch all the patches into pure patchitudity.
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
119
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:35:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:From what i have seen they are just a thing on the side of the game and in no way are integral to anything in dust beyond free random shiny stuff or random pure crap.
Why are people mad that they get involved with something random and get random stuff?, How could you be mad about getting random results from something you know is random?.
Wtf is going exactly?. What do you care?
What kind of stupid question is that?.
Are you one of these butthurt people?.
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Vicious Minotaur
1959
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:37:00 -
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Stupid item stupidly implemented with stupid randomness and is then dictated by stupid keys.
Stupid is bad.
Stupid makes people mad.
I am a minotaur.
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
2956
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:37:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:From what i have seen they are just a thing on the side of the game and in no way are integral to anything in dust beyond free random shiny stuff or random pure crap.
Why are people mad that they get involved with something random and get random stuff?, How could you be mad about getting random results from something you know is random?.
Wtf is going exactly?. What do you care? What kind of stupid question is that?. Are you one of these butthurt people?.
Why? Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things?
KDR matchmaking would patch all the patches into pure patchitudity.
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
119
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:39:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Stupid item stupidly implemented with stupid randomness and is then dictated by stupid keys.
Stupid is bad.
Stupid makes people mad.
Stupid people tend to get mad.
Is this a case of 'it is what it is' but people get mad about it anyway and knowingly get involved with it and then get even more mad?.
This is TechMechMeds tanker.
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
2957
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:40:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:Stupid item stupidly implemented with stupid randomness and is then dictated by stupid keys.
Stupid is bad.
Stupid makes people mad. Stupid people tend to get mad. Is this a case of 'it is what it is' but people get mad about it anyway and knowingly get involved with it and then get even more mad?.
You sound upset at something that doesn't affect core gameplay.
KDR matchmaking would patch all the patches into pure patchitudity.
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
120
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:40:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:From what i have seen they are just a thing on the side of the game and in no way are integral to anything in dust beyond free random shiny stuff or random pure crap.
Why are people mad that they get involved with something random and get random stuff?, How could you be mad about getting random results from something you know is random?.
Wtf is going exactly?. What do you care? What kind of stupid question is that?. Are you one of these butthurt people?. Why? Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things?
I'd like to know what the deal is with them, shall i repost you my op or what?.
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gekko k
Grundstein Automation
Property of Negative-Impact
10
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:41:00 -
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Perform the conversion of 800 AUR to your currency.
.... Got it.
Normally people aren't accustomed to paying that much for junk. |
TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
120
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:41:00 -
[10] - Quote
Onesimus Tarsus wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:Stupid item stupidly implemented with stupid randomness and is then dictated by stupid keys.
Stupid is bad.
Stupid makes people mad. Stupid people tend to get mad. Is this a case of 'it is what it is' but people get mad about it anyway and knowingly get involved with it and then get even more mad?. You sound upset at something that doesn't affect core gameplay.
Oh i see, great trolling skills mate lol.
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
120
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:43:00 -
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gekko k wrote:Perform the conversion of 800 AUR to your currency.
.... Got it.
Normally people aren't accustomed to paying that much for junk.
If it's random and people get involved then what else could they expect?.
How do these strongboxes work?, how are they accumulated etc.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
21788
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:49:00 -
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The problem is that every 'feature' implemented within the last three patches has been a vast increase of monetisation from earlier methods. There hasn't been a single major content update that wasn't done already that has been to innocently improve the game rather than milk money from it.
Strongboxes are a particularly disgusting example so people are flocking to those. Lots of cool stuff was introduced this last patch but all of it is in strongboxes, with a ridiculously low drop rate on the items and some frankly insulting items dropping instead. 100% of players in the game have the dropsuit command skillbook, new players actually start out with it preinstalled - but it drops in a strongbox, and nobody has any use for it.
The only method of accessing strongboxes is through keys. Getting anywhere near enough keys to unlock your strongboxes is madness unless you buy AUR. Many players are passing 2,000 strongboxes but have only acquired half a dozen or so keys through normal play.
It's poor implementation, lack of content, and overmonetisation that have gotten people upset.
:Bittervetting intensifies:
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
120
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:52:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The problem is that every 'feature' implemented within the last three patches has been a vast increase of monetisation from earlier methods. There hasn't been a single major content update that wasn't done already that has been to innocently improve the game rather than milk money from it.
Strongboxes are a particularly disgusting example so people are flocking to those. Lots of cool stuff was introduced this last patch but all of it is in strongboxes, with a ridiculously low drop rate on the items and some frankly insulting items dropping instead. 100% of players in the game have the dropsuit command skillbook, new players actually start out with it preinstalled - but it drops in a strongbox, and nobody has any use for it.
It's poor implementation, lack of content, and overmonetisation that have gotten people upset.
Ah right it makes sense now.
Maybe this could correlate with the extra effort the devs have put in?. We want a better game and that means more effort which means more money is needed right?.
This is TechMechMeds tanker.
Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2.
Enjoy.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
21788
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:54:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:
Maybe this could correlate with the extra effort the devs have put in?. We want a better game and that means more effort which means more money is needed right?.
This would be fine, but that money is not going into actual new content.
So far we have have had:
Loyalty ranks
Daily missions
Strongboxes
Warbarges
RNG BPOs
APEX BPOs
All of these have a heavy focus on monetisation, but don't add anything to actual gameplay.
The only actual gameplay features that have been added are some new maps - all of which have actually been finished for a year or so, just not implemented.
There simply haven't been any content updates, despite massive monetisation.
The Warlords patch has been nicknamed 'AURlords' because it's completely focused on AUR. The only non-AUR feature is the one map, which as mentioned was already designed previously. The warbarge feature is ludicrously focused on AUR, to the point where it takes years and years (and let's face it, DUST doesn't have this lifespan) to max it out, or alternatively you can spend in excess of 400k AUR to actually get the stuff.
:Bittervetting intensifies:
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gekko k
Grundstein Automation
Property of Negative-Impact
10
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:56:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The problem is that every 'feature' implemented within the last three patches has been a vast increase of monetisation from earlier methods. There hasn't been a single major content update that wasn't done already that has been to innocently improve the game rather than milk money from it.
Strongboxes are a particularly disgusting example so people are flocking to those. Lots of cool stuff was introduced this last patch but all of it is in strongboxes, with a ridiculously low drop rate on the items and some frankly insulting items dropping instead. 100% of players in the game have the dropsuit command skillbook, new players actually start out with it preinstalled - but it drops in a strongbox, and nobody has any use for it.
It's poor implementation, lack of content, and overmonetisation that have gotten people upset. Ah right it makes sense now. Maybe this could correlate with the extra effort the devs have put in?. We want a better game and that means more effort which means more money is needed right?.
They are not trying to grow the community. They are trying to fleece a small population. |
pumping up
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
168
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:56:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:
Maybe this could correlate with the extra effort the devs have put in?. We want a better game and that means more effort which means more money is needed right?.
This would be fine, but that money is not going into actual new content. So far we have have had: Loyalty ranks Daily missions Strongboxes Warbarges RNG BPOs All of these have a heavy focus on monetisation, but don't add anything to actual gameplay. The only actual gameplay features that have been added are some new maps - all of which have actually been finished for a year or so, just not implemented.
You forgot APEX BPOs.... cmon give them some credit.
Okay you could argue it's not direct gameplay....
Help me gain the C-II Dropsuit
Pilot & Saboteur
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1798
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:56:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Arkena Wrynspire wrote: The problem is that every 'feature' implemented within the last three patches has been a vast increase of monetisation from earlier methods. There hasn't been a single major content update that wasn't done already that has been to innocently improve the game rather than milk money from it.
Strongboxes are a particularly disgusting example so people are flocking to those. Lots of cool stuff was introduced this last patch but all of it is in strongboxes, with a ridiculously low drop rate on the items and some frankly insulting items dropping instead. 100% of players in the game have the dropsuit command skillbook, new players actually start out with it preinstalled - but it drops in a strongbox, and nobody has any use for it.
The only method of accessing strongboxes is through keys. Getting anywhere near enough keys to unlock your strongboxes is madness unless you buy AUR. Many players are passing 2,000 strongboxes but have only acquired half a dozen or so keys through normal play.
It's poor implementation, lack of content, and overmonetisation that have gotten people upset.
Huuur Duuurrr Fedora Blaaarhrhrhrhgaaaffff Haaaammmmm Duuuurrrrr Huuurrrrr Fedora Durhur .
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G Felix
Terminus Defense Force
486
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:56:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The problem is that every 'feature' implemented within the last three patches has been a vast increase of monetisation from earlier methods. There hasn't been a single major content update that wasn't done already that has been to innocently improve the game rather than milk money from it.
Strongboxes are a particularly disgusting example so people are flocking to those. Lots of cool stuff was introduced this last patch but all of it is in strongboxes, with a ridiculously low drop rate on the items and some frankly insulting items dropping instead. 100% of players in the game have the dropsuit command skillbook, new players actually start out with it preinstalled - but it drops in a strongbox, and nobody has any use for it.
It's poor implementation, lack of content, and overmonetisation that have gotten people upset.
^Arkena absolutely nailed it. The problem is these new "Side Features", while not a part of core gameplay, take up development resources. Resources that could be spent improving core gameplay and stability. Improving hit detection, buggy terrain, and imbalances to matchmaking aren't sexy new features, but the would vastly improve the gameplay experience. The strongboxes and the new warbarge are half baked ideas that are little more than Aurum sinks. I would rather buy Aurum to fund meaningful development and improvements, than put drop nickels into my PS3 like it's a slot machine that might spit out officer gear, or complete crap.
Simply put, CCP invested time into these new "Features", and it's time that could have been much better spent.
Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
120
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:57:00 -
[19] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:
Maybe this could correlate with the extra effort the devs have put in?. We want a better game and that means more effort which means more money is needed right?.
This would be fine, but that money is not going into actual new content. So far we have have had: Loyalty ranks Daily missions Strongboxes Warbarges RNG BPOs All of these have a heavy focus on monetisation, but don't add anything to actual gameplay. The only actual gameplay features that have been added are some new maps - all of which have actually been finished for a year or so, just not implemented.
I see yeah, it needs to be diverted elsewhere.
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1798
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:57:00 -
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Nevermind.
Call that super late service for terrible service.
Hearing the lamentations of Amarr women since 92'.
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
2958
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:57:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The problem is that every 'feature' implemented within the last three patches has been a vast increase of monetisation from earlier methods. There hasn't been a single major content update that wasn't done already that has been to innocently improve the game rather than milk money from it.
Strongboxes are a particularly disgusting example so people are flocking to those. Lots of cool stuff was introduced this last patch but all of it is in strongboxes, with a ridiculously low drop rate on the items and some frankly insulting items dropping instead. 100% of players in the game have the dropsuit command skillbook, new players actually start out with it preinstalled - but it drops in a strongbox, and nobody has any use for it.
It's poor implementation, lack of content, and overmonetisation that have gotten people upset. Ah right it makes sense now. Maybe this could correlate with the extra effort the devs have put in?. We want a better game and that means more effort which means more money is needed right?.
I shudder to think how much worthwhile effort they wasted making the recent "improvements" that could have been used for making DUST into what it has always been advertised to be. Instead, they spent their efforts on money-gouging payola schemes to fund the development of money-gouging payola schemes.
KDR matchmaking would patch all the patches into pure patchitudity.
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:58:00 -
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RemingtonBeaver wrote:Nevermind.
Call that super late service for terrible service.
Huuur Duuurrr Fedora Blaaarhrhrhrhgaaaffff Haaaammmmm Duuuurrrrr Huuurrrrr Fedora Durhur .
This is TechMechMeds tanker.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
21790
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Posted - 2015.02.05 22:59:00 -
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Yes, APEX BPOs are also an example. I added them to the list. I've probably missed a couple of things.
Going from Uprising to Warlords, I had hoped for a really solid update that would show how far we've come and that the dev team has brought together all its resources to bring out a great update. But it simply hasn't happened. There is no new content in it. Every other 1.0 patch has brought masses of new content - Uprising, for all of its flaws, brought an impressive amount of kit to the table. Chromosome brought loads of cool kit in, too. Reduced dev team or not, it's a very poor (or rich, depending on your viewpoint) expansion in comparison.
EDIT: Yes, added a few more things to the list.
:Bittervetting intensifies:
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2015.02.05 23:05:00 -
[24] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Yes, APEX BPOs are also an example. I added them to the list. I've probably missed a couple of things.
Going from Uprising to Warlords, I had hoped for a really solid update that would show how far we've come and that the dev team has brought together all its resources to bring out a great update. But it simply hasn't happened. There is no new content in it. Every other 1.0 patch has brought masses of new content - Uprising, for all of its flaws, brought an impressive amount of kit to the table. Chromosome brought loads of cool kit in, too. Reduced dev team or not, it's a very poor (or rich, depending on your viewpoint) expansion in comparison.
EDIT: Yes, added a few more things to the list.
That's why i'm coming back to dust, a lot of the stuff that should have been in ages ago is finally here.
I'm of the opinion that it won't get much better on the ps3 anyway so we need to move dust to the ps4 soonish for it to expand properly and to gain more players as the ps3 is losing players to the ps4.
This is TechMechMeds tanker.
Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2.
Enjoy.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
21790
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Posted - 2015.02.05 23:06:00 -
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How long have you been away?
Nothing new has been added since Uprising 1.8, and that was a year ago.
:Bittervetting intensifies:
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
121
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Posted - 2015.02.05 23:08:00 -
[26] - Quote
Onesimus Tarsus wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The problem is that every 'feature' implemented within the last three patches has been a vast increase of monetisation from earlier methods. There hasn't been a single major content update that wasn't done already that has been to innocently improve the game rather than milk money from it.
Strongboxes are a particularly disgusting example so people are flocking to those. Lots of cool stuff was introduced this last patch but all of it is in strongboxes, with a ridiculously low drop rate on the items and some frankly insulting items dropping instead. 100% of players in the game have the dropsuit command skillbook, new players actually start out with it preinstalled - but it drops in a strongbox, and nobody has any use for it.
It's poor implementation, lack of content, and overmonetisation that have gotten people upset. Ah right it makes sense now. Maybe this could correlate with the extra effort the devs have put in?. We want a better game and that means more effort which means more money is needed right?. I shudder to think how much worthwhile effort they wasted making the recent "improvements" that could have been used for making DUST into what it has always been advertised to be. Instead, they spent their efforts on money-gouging payola schemes to fund the development of money-gouging payola schemes.
I had no idea it was this bad no. Items that can only be obtained through these boxes is pretty harsh, even for someone like me who has spent a sht load on this game and will continue to do so when i get back.
Well actually i'm getting a respec so my 2 infantry chars are completely free of sp used on vehicles and that's it. I'm not spending anymore until i see development in dust for the ps4 or pc.
This is TechMechMeds tanker.
Redeployside - You are just in time for minimal immersion edition of ps2.
Enjoy.
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TerranKnight87
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
122
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Posted - 2015.02.05 23:09:00 -
[27] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:How long have you been away?
Nothing new has been added since Uprising 1.8, and that was a year ago.
About 3 ish weeks before the 'new' maps came.
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bathtubist
Horizons' Edge
30
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Posted - 2015.02.05 23:10:00 -
[28] - Quote
TerranKnight87 wrote:From what i have seen they are just a thing on the side of the game and in no way are integral to anything in dust beyond free random shiny stuff or random pure crap.
Why are people mad that they get involved with something random and get random stuff?, How could you be mad about getting random results from something you know is random?.
Wtf is going on exactly?.
just a thing?
no this boy didnt
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
21801
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Posted - 2015.02.05 23:11:00 -
[29] - Quote
The maps were pretty cool and are probably the best part of the last three patches, but as I said they were designed over a year ago.
It's a shame.
:Bittervetting intensifies:
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bathtubist
Horizons' Edge
31
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Posted - 2015.02.05 23:19:00 -
[30] - Quote
Back to what some other guy said yeah its aurlord till they wanna start getting a better design of the strong boxes better yet a damn weekly encrypt key event I get they need some money but the devs are trying scoop my money like hell |
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Awesome Pantaloons
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
734
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Posted - 2015.02.09 17:21:00 -
[31] - Quote
We're upset because it's bullshyt to make keys available through either 1) hard work or 2) paying money and then reward that with x24 basic armor plates 
Seid ihr das essen? Nein! Wir sind der jager!
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Luna McDuffing
COALICION LATINA
Smart Deploy
167
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Posted - 2015.02.09 18:35:00 -
[32] - Quote
My beef with the boxes is that there are just too many of them. I'm in the 800 range. I think 845 or something like that. I look at the daily missions and what do i get as a reward? strong boxes. Play the game and as salvage what do I get? Even more strong boxes. If it where a few boxes here and there than that would be fine. It would be like a lottery. Right now it is not only an annoyance but, it also doesn't make financial sense. By the time you spend the money to open all 800 boxes you are much better of buying some pack. Maybe BPOs or something. |
Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
194
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Posted - 2015.02.09 18:57:00 -
[33] - Quote
TerranKnight87 wrote:From what i have seen they are just a thing on the side of the game and in no way are integral to anything in dust beyond free random shiny stuff or random pure crap.
Why are people mad that they get involved with something random and get random stuff?, How could you be mad about getting random results from something you know is random?.
Wtf is going on exactly?.
The implementation of the strongboxes and keys is ridiculous. It will cost me over 500 USD to buy enough Aurum to get as many keys as I have strongboxes. Plus it sucks when you do use some keys and you get complete garbage over and over again. |
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