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        |  Sir Dukey
 G0DS AM0NG MEN
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1714
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 21:39:00 -
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 Never in the history of dust have I been more disappointed than having my 640 shields on my Caldari Assault disappear in a fraction of a second to an Advanced ScR on an Advanced Amarr Assault.
 
 139% efficiency the ScR does to shield just with proficiency!!
 
 CCP, give us a Tactical Combat Rifle just like the current ScR with identical stats but flipped proficiency and I will guarantee that armor users will cry like babies.
 
 Dam CCP, I am disappointed.
 
 Not to mention the terrible RR of a gun the Cal Assault has. It kicks like a muel. The only thing the reload helps with is when I blow a whole entire clip trying to kill one guy at 50m and need another 1 or two clips to go. Sad.
 
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        |  TritusX
 PH4NT0M5
 
 227
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 21:40:00 -
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 Sir Dukey wrote:Never in the history of dust have I been more disappointed than having my 640 shields on my Caldari Assault disappear in a fraction of a second to an Advanced ScR on an Advanced Amarr Assault.
 139% efficiency the ScR does to shield just with proficiency!!
 
 CCP, give us a Tactical Combat Rifle just like the current ScR with identical stats but flipped proficiency and I will guarantee that armor users will cry like babies.
 
 Dam CCP, I am disappointed.
 
 Not to mention the terrible RR of a gun the Cal Assault has. It kicks like a muel. The only thing the reload helps with is when I blow a whole entire clip trying to kill one guy at 50m and need another 1 or two clips to go. Sad.
 My reaction when seeing this thread.
 
 *Looks at title
 "Uh oh, it's gonna be Sir Dukey"
 *clicks le thread
 "Oh look, what do you know?!"
 
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        |  xavier zor
 Rogue Instincts
 
 561
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 21:41:00 -
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 FEAR MY VIZIAM
 
 double-damage modded w/ max skills....i am a guilty caldari killer
 
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        |  Nirwanda Vaughns
 
 1350
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 21:41:00 -
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 The CR/ACR gets +20% to armour. with proficiency that bumps to +35%.
 
 the ScR are supposed to do that kinda damage to shields, they're lasers. what your issue should be is how much the laser rifles do to armour. thats the broke a** weapon of dust
 
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        |  Sir Dukey
 G0DS AM0NG MEN
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1714
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 21:42:00 -
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 TritusX wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Never in the history of dust have I been more disappointed than having my 640 shields on my Caldari Assault disappear in a fraction of a second to an Advanced ScR on an Advanced Amarr Assault.
 139% efficiency the ScR does to shield just with proficiency!!
 
 CCP, give us a Tactical Combat Rifle just like the current ScR with identical stats but flipped proficiency and I will guarantee that armor users will cry like babies.
 
 Dam CCP, I am disappointed.
 
 Not to mention the terrible RR of a gun the Cal Assault has. It kicks like a muel. The only thing the reload helps with is when I blow a whole entire clip trying to kill one guy at 50m and need another 1 or two clips to go. Sad.
 My reaction when seeing this thread. *Looks at title "Uh oh, it's gonna be Sir Dukey" *clicks le thread "Oh look, what do you know?!" 
 My reaction to when you replied...
 
 *looks at little reply box*
 *Uh oh, it's TritusX*
 *Clicks le thread*
 *Looks for stupid comment*
 *Oh look, what do you know?!*
 
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        |  Sir Dukey
 G0DS AM0NG MEN
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1714
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 21:43:00 -
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 Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:The CR/ACR gets +20% to armour. with proficiency that bumps to +35%.
 the ScR are supposed to do that kinda damage to shields, they're lasers. what your issue should be is how much the laser rifles do to armour. thats the broke a** weapon of dust
 
 CR does 115% to Armor bro. Where do you get your facts? Why you spit false info?
 
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        |  Raiden246
 State of Purgatory
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 11
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 21:44:00 -
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 TritusX wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Never in the history of dust have I been more disappointed than having my 640 shields on my Caldari Assault disappear in a fraction of a second to an Advanced ScR on an Advanced Amarr Assault.
 139% efficiency the ScR does to shield just with proficiency!!
 
 CCP, give us a Tactical Combat Rifle just like the current ScR with identical stats but flipped proficiency and I will guarantee that armor users will cry like babies.
 
 Dam CCP, I am disappointed.
 
 Not to mention the terrible RR of a gun the Cal Assault has. It kicks like a muel. The only thing the reload helps with is when I blow a whole entire clip trying to kill one guy at 50m and need another 1 or two clips to go. Sad.
 My reaction when seeing this thread. *Looks at title "Uh oh, it's gonna be Sir Dukey" *clicks le thread "Oh look, what do you know?!" 
 Or you could have looked a tad to the right from outside the thread.
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        |  Sir Dukey
 G0DS AM0NG MEN
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1714
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 21:45:00 -
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 Raiden246 wrote:TritusX wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Never in the history of dust have I been more disappointed than having my 640 shields on my Caldari Assault disappear in a fraction of a second to an Advanced ScR on an Advanced Amarr Assault.
 139% efficiency the ScR does to shield just with proficiency!!
 
 CCP, give us a Tactical Combat Rifle just like the current ScR with identical stats but flipped proficiency and I will guarantee that armor users will cry like babies.
 
 Dam CCP, I am disappointed.
 
 Not to mention the terrible RR of a gun the Cal Assault has. It kicks like a muel. The only thing the reload helps with is when I blow a whole entire clip trying to kill one guy at 50m and need another 1 or two clips to go. Sad.
 My reaction when seeing this thread. *Looks at title "Uh oh, it's gonna be Sir Dukey" *clicks le thread "Oh look, what do you know?!" Or you could have looked a tad to the right from outside the thread. 
 He's not smart enough for that. Don't question this Gangztas intelligence, they get feisty.
 
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        |  Cogadh Draco
 WarRavens
 Capital Punishment.
 
 84
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 21:46:00 -
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 Sir Dukey wrote:TritusX wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Never in the history of dust have I been more disappointed than having my 640 shields on my Caldari Assault disappear in a fraction of a second to an Advanced ScR on an Advanced Amarr Assault.
 139% efficiency the ScR does to shield just with proficiency!!
 
 CCP, give us a Tactical Combat Rifle just like the current ScR with identical stats but flipped proficiency and I will guarantee that armor users will cry like babies.
 
 Dam CCP, I am disappointed.
 
 Not to mention the terrible RR of a gun the Cal Assault has. It kicks like a muel. The only thing the reload helps with is when I blow a whole entire clip trying to kill one guy at 50m and need another 1 or two clips to go. Sad.
 My reaction when seeing this thread. *Looks at title "Uh oh, it's gonna be Sir Dukey" *clicks le thread "Oh look, what do you know?!" My reaction to when you replied...  *looks at little reply box* *Uh oh, it's TritusX* *Clicks le thread* *Looks for stupid comment* *Oh look, what do you know?!* 
 Look at this, two mercs fighting it out with writing. Though in this case "The pen is -NOT- mightier than the sword"
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        |  Sir Dukey
 G0DS AM0NG MEN
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1715
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 21:49:00 -
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 Damn, this thread has already been degraded by forum rats who rather stay on forums than actually play.
 
  
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        |  Soldner VonKuechle
 SAM-MIK
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1499
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 21:51:00 -
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 Sir Dukey wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:The CR/ACR gets +20% to armour. with proficiency that bumps to +35%.
 the ScR are supposed to do that kinda damage to shields, they're lasers. what your issue should be is how much the laser rifles do to armour. thats the broke a** weapon of dust
 CR does 115% to Armor bro. Where do you get your facts? Why you spit false info? 
 Says the guy repeatedly claiming 139%.
 
 Don't you mean 135?
 
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        |  Sequal's Back
 Intara Direct Action
 Caldari State
 
 244
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 21:53:00 -
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 And CR/MD are the bane of armor.. With proficiency and damagers, it wrecks armor the same way as scr wrecks shield. This is what they are made for.
 
 I have to admit that most shield users got used to get shot by anti-armor weapons (RR-CR used to get spammed) for so long that when they are now killed by an anti-shield one they say it's OP....
 
 And AR are anti-shield weapons btw
 
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        |  Raiden246
 State of Purgatory
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 12
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 21:54:00 -
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 I don't really have a problem with SCR myself. I mean yeah, anything under 500 eHP and I die pretty much instantly. But I've had lot's of success taking out about any suit with my GK-13, especially sentinels from distance. Allotek of course performs even better than that!
 
 Quite frankly I find the burst AR variants to be better than SCR.
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        |  THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE
 Xer Cloud Consortium
 
 117
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 21:59:00 -
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 Sir Dukey, the new nerf everything that kills him knight of dust
 
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        |  Izlare Lenix
 Pub Stars
 
 1240
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 22:04:00 -
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 The HMG still kills everything faster. Bust HMG with prof V and damage mods can kill most scouts and medium frames with one burst. It might take two bursts to kill a cal assault but either way your dead before you can even react half the time.
 
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        |  Edau Skir2
 Nefantar Raiders
 
 377
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 22:08:00 -
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 Edit; Hang on, clarifying a potential memory fail here....okay, discount this post. Memory fail level over 9000 -_-
 
 But yeah! ScR! I'm actually swaying to it. Much fun.
 
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        |  Sir Dukey
 G0DS AM0NG MEN
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1718
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 22:13:00 -
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 Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:The CR/ACR gets +20% to armour. with proficiency that bumps to +35%.
 the ScR are supposed to do that kinda damage to shields, they're lasers. what your issue should be is how much the laser rifles do to armour. thats the broke a** weapon of dust
 CR does 115% to Armor bro. Where do you get your facts? Why you spit false info? Says the guy repeatedly claiming 139%. Don't you mean 135? 
 138% with proficiency 5 buddy, it adds 15% more damage to a 120% damage profile.
 
 1.2*.15=(.18+1.2)*100=138%
 
 Do you even play Dust 514?
 
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        |  Sir Dukey
 G0DS AM0NG MEN
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1718
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 22:14:00 -
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 [quote=Edau Skir2]Edit; Hang on, clarifying a potential memory fail here....okay, discount this post. Memory fail level over 9000 -_-
 
 But yeah! ScR! I'm actually swaying to it. Much fun.[/quote
 Do you even play the game brother?!?!?!? It's 3% for efficiency.
 
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        |  Sir Dukey
 G0DS AM0NG MEN
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1718
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 22:15:00 -
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 Sequal's Back wrote:And CR/MD are the bane of armor.. With proficiency and damagers, it wrecks armor the same way as scr wrecks shield. This is what they are made for.
 I have to admit that most shield users got used to get shot by anti-armor weapons (RR-CR used to get spammed) for so long that when they are now killed by an anti-shield one they say it's OP....
 
 And AR are anti-shield weapons btw
 
 Nope, CR doesn't wreck armor anywhere near as fast as a ScR wrecks shields. Also, MD has low DPS bro.
 
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        |  Raiden246
 State of Purgatory
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 12
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 22:21:00 -
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 Sir Dukey wrote:Sequal's Back wrote:And CR/MD are the bane of armor.. With proficiency and damagers, it wrecks armor the same way as scr wrecks shield. This is what they are made for.
 I have to admit that most shield users got used to get shot by anti-armor weapons (RR-CR used to get spammed) for so long that when they are now killed by an anti-shield one they say it's OP....
 
 And AR are anti-shield weapons btw
 Nope, CR doesn't wreck armor anywhere near as fast as a ScR wrecks shields. Also, MD has low DPS bro.  
 As of late I've noticed that some MD shots are blanks. Also the low damage towards shields has made me avoid using them.
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        |  Joel II X
 Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
 
 6032
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 22:25:00 -
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 K.
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        |  THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE
 Xer Cloud Consortium
 
 117
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 22:25:00 -
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 Den.
 
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        |  P14GU3
 Savage Bullet
 
 1215
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 22:31:00 -
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 THE MILLIONCLONE CHALLENGE wrote: K den.
 
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        |  Archduke Ferd1nand
 Nos Nothi
 
 49
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 22:40:00 -
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 Sequal's Back wrote:And CR/MD are the bane of armor.. With proficiency and damagers, it wrecks armor the same way as scr wrecks shield. This is what they are made for.
 I have to admit that most shield users got used to get shot by anti-armor weapons (RR-CR used to get spammed) for so long that when they are now killed by an anti-shield one they say it's OP....
 
 And AR are anti-shield weapons btw
 Except the anti shield weapons are higher damage weapons, and shield has less HP than armor, SO....
 
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        |  TritusX
 PH4NT0M5
 
 229
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 22:55:00 -
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 Sir Dukey wrote:TritusX wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Never in the history of dust have I been more disappointed than having my 640 shields on my Caldari Assault disappear in a fraction of a second to an Advanced ScR on an Advanced Amarr Assault.
 139% efficiency the ScR does to shield just with proficiency!!
 
 CCP, give us a Tactical Combat Rifle just like the current ScR with identical stats but flipped proficiency and I will guarantee that armor users will cry like babies.
 
 Dam CCP, I am disappointed.
 
 Not to mention the terrible RR of a gun the Cal Assault has. It kicks like a muel. The only thing the reload helps with is when I blow a whole entire clip trying to kill one guy at 50m and need another 1 or two clips to go. Sad.
 My reaction when seeing this thread. *Looks at title "Uh oh, it's gonna be Sir Dukey" *clicks le thread "Oh look, what do you know?!" My reaction to when you replied...  *looks at little reply box* *Uh oh, it's TritusX* *Clicks le thread* *Looks for stupid comment* *Oh look, what do you know?!* But seriously, I see threads from you all over the place complaining about things from SCR is OP to cloak buffs.
 
 Also, iirc, the combat rifle profile is -15%/+15%
 Even then, the Combat Rifle can melt just about any shield user as fast as a SCR melts a shield user. Look at the ACR. It just goes right through any medium frame, and takes down a heavy frame if the user gets all his shots in. The SCR uses charge shots to melt pretty much all of a shield user''s shields and fires a couple more to kill their armor.
 
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        |  Dengru
 Fatal Absolution
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 493
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 23:10:00 -
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 I think it's mostly the charge shot that bothers people but in practice other rifles annihilate shield suits too, if only a half a second slower.
 
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        |  Soldner VonKuechle
 SAM-MIK
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1501
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.05 23:14:00 -
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 Sir Dukey wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:The CR/ACR gets +20% to armour. with proficiency that bumps to +35%.
 the ScR are supposed to do that kinda damage to shields, they're lasers. what your issue should be is how much the laser rifles do to armour. thats the broke a** weapon of dust
 CR does 115% to Armor bro. Where do you get your facts? Why you spit false info? Says the guy repeatedly claiming 139%. Don't you mean 135? 138% with proficiency 5 buddy, it adds 15% more damage to a 120% damage profile. 1.2*.15=(.18+1.2)*100=138%  Do you even play Dust 514? 
 
 huh, and here i thought, since the beginning of time, that it was just a straight, basic stacking bonus, not a multiplier.
 
 I hate you BLAM, for telling us that way back in the day.
 
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        |  SeargentSAVAGE
 0verstoned Inc.
 
 23
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.06 00:02:00 -
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 xavier zor wrote:FEAR MY VIZIAM
 double-damage modded w/ max skills....i am a guilty caldari killer
 
 108 DAMAGE/SHOT TO SHIELDS MWUAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
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        |  duster 35000
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
 191
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.06 00:45:00 -
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 Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:The CR/ACR gets +20% to armour. with proficiency that bumps to +35%.
 the ScR are supposed to do that kinda damage to shields, they're lasers. what your issue should be is how much the laser rifles do to armour. thats the broke a** weapon of dust
 CR does 115% to Armor bro. Where do you get your facts? Why you spit false info? Says the guy repeatedly claiming 139%. Don't you mean 135? No, MD prof is bugged like that too.
 
 And the problem is shields have barely any hp and yet there's a weapon like that.
 We need an armor version of the ScR, of course with higher base damage because armor has more hp.
 
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        |  Sir Dukey
 G0DS AM0NG MEN
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1726
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.02.06 01:07:00 -
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 TritusX wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:TritusX wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Never in the history of dust have I been more disappointed than having my 640 shields on my Caldari Assault disappear in a fraction of a second to an Advanced ScR on an Advanced Amarr Assault.
 139% efficiency the ScR does to shield just with proficiency!!
 
 CCP, give us a Tactical Combat Rifle just like the current ScR with identical stats but flipped proficiency and I will guarantee that armor users will cry like babies.
 
 Dam CCP, I am disappointed.
 
 Not to mention the terrible RR of a gun the Cal Assault has. It kicks like a muel. The only thing the reload helps with is when I blow a whole entire clip trying to kill one guy at 50m and need another 1 or two clips to go. Sad.
 My reaction when seeing this thread. *Looks at title "Uh oh, it's gonna be Sir Dukey" *clicks le thread "Oh look, what do you know?!" My reaction to when you replied...  *looks at little reply box* *Uh oh, it's TritusX* *Clicks le thread* *Looks for stupid comment* *Oh look, what do you know?!* But seriously, I see threads from you all over the place complaining about things from SCR is OP to cloak buffs. Also, iirc, the combat rifle profile is -15%/+15% Even then, the Combat Rifle can melt just about any shield user as fast as a SCR melts a shield user. Look at the ACR. It just goes right through any medium frame, and takes down a heavy frame if the user gets all his shots in. The SCR uses charge shots to melt pretty much all of a shield user''s shields and fires a couple more to kill their armor. 
 False, use a proto ScR on my 700 shields and you'll probably have to reload to get through just because shield vs. projectile hit detection is weird.
 
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