DUST Search - Accelerated MCC damage when all objectives held

Thor Odinson42 wrote:

Imp Smash wrote:

Not at all. Hard fought and very close. No squads on the other side. Randoms -- mostly NPC corps. 2 squads on our side. The pervasive assumption rolling around the forums that squads always beat randoms is consistently disproved by my experience in game.

The thing is -- say MCC damage was accelerated the longer you held the points. Then people will give up if they can't take the point back in the first 5 minutes. No more hard fought battles. What was one of the most fun matches I had last night (even though we lost by the hairest of hairs) would have been a redline stomp of boring. (maybe)

(also -- tons of modded controllers over there Q.Q. At least with the ACR you can hide the fact your controller has a rapid fire option -- but with scramblers it is plainly visible. Do the barest minimum and hide your cheating people!)

I don't want to see anything like this until you've held all of the points for a minute or so. They could have a countdown before the amplified null cannons commence firing to perhaps alert the 8 snipers that the time to do stuff has arrived.

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Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5970	Posted - 2015.02.04 19:47:00 - [1] - Quote Why not make the MCC damage increase by 50% when all objectives are held? I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7364	Posted - 2015.02.04 20:04:00 - [2] - Quote Why? The rate of damage already increases based on how many null cannons your side controls. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5973	Posted - 2015.02.04 20:09:00 - [3] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Why? The rate of damage already increases based on how many null cannons your side controls. Because in stomps it would be nice if you didn't have to waste 10 minutes waiting for the match to end. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 872	Posted - 2015.02.04 20:17:00 - [4] - Quote Strongly agree. I always thought there should be a sort of 'mercy rule' in very one sided games. There is no reason either team should have to sit through the full length of a game that's over in the first several minutes. This would be good for everybody Who cares what some sniper has to say
TritusX PH4NT0M5 216	Posted - 2015.02.04 20:38:00 - [5] - Quote Talos Vagheitan wrote: Strongly agree. I always thought there should be a sort of 'mercy rule' in very one sided games. There is no reason either team should have to sit through the full length of a game that's over in the first several minutes. This would be good for everybody What happens when the other team just decides to use LAV's and they get there first? Then they have a nice advantage over the other team. Even if they hack them all back, the MCC is severely wounded Forced Death
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5974	Posted - 2015.02.04 21:21:00 - [6] - Quote TritusX wrote: Talos Vagheitan wrote: Strongly agree. I always thought there should be a sort of 'mercy rule' in very one sided games. There is no reason either team should have to sit through the full length of a game that's over in the first several minutes. This would be good for everybody What happens when the other team just decides to use LAV's and they get there first? Then they have a nice advantage over the other team. Even if they hack them all back, the MCC is severely wounded I don't think I've ever seen a pub match where someone was capped and came back and won. Either way there are surely outlying situations, but something like this would at the very least increase your likelihood of finding a decent match or two in your playing session. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5764	Posted - 2015.02.04 22:09:00 - [7] - Quote I wouldn't say that it should happen from the outset. I would think it nice if it built up. Hold all points and over time they start firing faster or doing more damage. Starts off zero percent extra, still holding all and it goes up to 5%, then 10%, 15% and so on until 50% What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4746	Posted - 2015.02.04 22:16:00 - [8] - Quote Something like....? N=Number of Cannons Held D=Null Cannon Damage Volley Damage = ND(1+0.1(N-1)) Cannon Efficiency 1 Cannons = 100% 2 Cannons = 110% 3 Cannons = 120% 4 Cannons = 130% 5 Cannons = 140% Total Damage per Volley 1 Cannons = 1.0D 2 Cannons = 2.2D 3 Cannons = 3.6D 4 Cannons = 5.2D 5 Cannons = 7.0D "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5764	Posted - 2015.02.04 23:48:00 - [9] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Something like....? N=Number of Cannons Held D=Null Cannon Damage Volley Damage = ND(1+0.1(N-1)) Cannon Efficiency 1 Cannons = 100% 2 Cannons = 110% 3 Cannons = 120% 4 Cannons = 130% 5 Cannons = 140% Total Damage per Volley 1 Cannons = 1.0D 2 Cannons = 2.2D 3 Cannons = 3.6D 4 Cannons = 5.2D 5 Cannons = 7.0D I was thinking more along the lines of: For every Xth second while 5 cannons are held, increase damage by 1% Pull number out of air, let's put 3 in that. Hold for 30 seconds, get 10% extra damage. 1 minute=20% and so on. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 619	Posted - 2015.02.05 00:03:00 - [10] - Quote Happened last night. We got cloned with our MCC at 50% shields and theirs with 2 ticks of armor. There are comebacks sometimes.

pumping up Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 144	Posted - 2015.02.05 01:33:00 - [11] - Quote Imp Smash wrote: Happened last night. We got cloned with our MCC at 50% shields and theirs with 2 ticks of armor. There are comebacks sometimes. Doesnt sound like a one sided stomp though. Help me gain the C-II Dropsuit Pilot & Saboteur
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5984	Posted - 2015.02.05 01:40:00 - [12] - Quote Spademan wrote: I wouldn't say that it should happen from the outset. I would think it nice if it built up. Hold all points and over time they start firing faster or doing more damage. Starts off zero percent extra, still holding all and it goes up to 5%, then 10%, 15% and so on until 50% Exactly like a laser rifle, only slower I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 621	Posted - 2015.02.05 01:44:00 - [13] - Quote Not at all. Hard fought and very close. No squads on the other side. Randoms -- mostly NPC corps. 2 squads on our side. The pervasive assumption rolling around the forums that squads always beat randoms is consistently disproved by my experience in game. The thing is -- say MCC damage was accelerated the longer you held the points. Then people will give up if they can't take the point back in the first 5 minutes. No more hard fought battles. What was one of the most fun matches I had last night (even though we lost by the hairest of hairs) would have been a redline stomp of boring. (maybe) (also -- tons of modded controllers over there Q.Q. At least with the ACR you can hide the fact your controller has a rapid fire option -- but with scramblers it is plainly visible. Do the barest minimum and hide your cheating people!)
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5984	Posted - 2015.02.05 01:48:00 - [14] - Quote Imp Smash wrote: Not at all. Hard fought and very close. No squads on the other side. Randoms -- mostly NPC corps. 2 squads on our side. The pervasive assumption rolling around the forums that squads always beat randoms is consistently disproved by my experience in game. The thing is -- say MCC damage was accelerated the longer you held the points. Then people will give up if they can't take the point back in the first 5 minutes. No more hard fought battles. What was one of the most fun matches I had last night (even though we lost by the hairest of hairs) would have been a redline stomp of boring. (maybe) (also -- tons of modded controllers over there Q.Q. At least with the ACR you can hide the fact your controller has a rapid fire option -- but with scramblers it is plainly visible. Do the barest minimum and hide your cheating people!) I don't want to see anything like this until you've held all of the points for a minute or so. They could have a countdown before the amplified null cannons commence firing to perhaps alert the 8 snipers that the time to do stuff has arrived. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 873	Posted - 2015.02.05 02:09:00 - [15] - Quote Spademan wrote: I wouldn't say that it should happen from the outset. I would think it nice if it built up. Hold all points and over time they start firing faster or doing more damage. Starts off zero percent extra, still holding all and it goes up to 5%, then 10%, 15% and so on until 50% This is the correct way to do it. Who cares what some sniper has to say
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 623	Posted - 2015.02.05 05:08:00 - [16] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Imp Smash wrote: Not at all. Hard fought and very close. No squads on the other side. Randoms -- mostly NPC corps. 2 squads on our side. The pervasive assumption rolling around the forums that squads always beat randoms is consistently disproved by my experience in game. The thing is -- say MCC damage was accelerated the longer you held the points. Then people will give up if they can't take the point back in the first 5 minutes. No more hard fought battles. What was one of the most fun matches I had last night (even though we lost by the hairest of hairs) would have been a redline stomp of boring. (maybe) (also -- tons of modded controllers over there Q.Q. At least with the ACR you can hide the fact your controller has a rapid fire option -- but with scramblers it is plainly visible. Do the barest minimum and hide your cheating people!) I don't want to see anything like this until you've held all of the points for a minute or so. They could have a countdown before the amplified null cannons commence firing to perhaps alert the 8 snipers that the time to do stuff has arrived. That part made me lol. Meh, this is all just my one opinion out of many. It would definitely hurry up stomp matches -- that's unarguable.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6392	Posted - 2015.02.05 14:24:00 - [17] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Why? The rate of damage already increases based on how many null cannons your side controls. Because in stomps it would be nice if you didn't have to waste 10 minutes waiting for the match to end. It would be nice if stomps were observed in 1/10 matches rather than 5/10. We're treating a symptom here instead of addressing the cause. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 6007	Posted - 2015.02.05 14:53:00 - [18] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Why? The rate of damage already increases based on how many null cannons your side controls. Because in stomps it would be nice if you didn't have to waste 10 minutes waiting for the match to end. It would be nice if stomps were observed in 1/10 matches rather than 5/10. We're treating a symptom here instead of addressing the cause. The cause is terrible payouts and nothing for squads and teams of organized players to do beside roll through pubs in between the occasional PC battles. Terrible payouts ensure that those not doing the latter (with success) are financially inferior and cannot afford to even counter with ADV gear. These issues have been ignored for so long that team play in Dust has eroded. I don't see anything outside of some items in the backlog that address the cause so we might as well come up with some remedies to ease the suffering caused by the symptoms. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7367	Posted - 2015.02.05 16:33:00 - [19] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Why? The rate of damage already increases based on how many null cannons your side controls. Because in stomps it would be nice if you didn't have to waste 10 minutes waiting for the match to end. If it's taking your team that long to lose then you should make the most of it and learn from your mistakes and or try to make a comeback. I have helped the team score narrow comebacks by providing opportunities for people to resist. By capturing a CRU in a badly defended place you can give the opportunity to make that comeback. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. 2870	Posted - 2015.02.05 16:42:00 - [20] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Why not make the MCC damage increase by 50% when all objectives are held? It's fine already. That won't give the losing team any chance to bounce back. Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 6012	Posted - 2015.02.05 18:05:00 - [21] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Why? The rate of damage already increases based on how many null cannons your side controls. Because in stomps it would be nice if you didn't have to waste 10 minutes waiting for the match to end. If it's taking your team that long to lose then you should make the most of it and learn from your mistakes and or try to make a comeback. I have helped the team score narrow comebacks by providing opportunities for people to resist. By capturing a CRU in a badly defended place you can give the opportunity to make that comeback. It's more about making it end for both parties if one team isn't participating. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
tritan abbattere DBAG CORE 17	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:14:00 - [22] - Quote Something i have thought of is having an objective that both sides have in a redline area that opens up if you hold all objectives. This should take a minja 15 seconds to hack alone. This would upload a virus to the MCC causing it to self destruct. your team has time to remove the virus or Kill the target if its just a solo Guy. Either way this would be the hardest objective to take but be the insta win. you can reward players with 500 points if the hack goes through. I am the all mighty Tritan. Fear me for I am a MassHole
killian178 Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 113	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:30:00 - [23] - Quote I like to fight my fights thank you, stomp or not. Id rather spend more time in battle, making sp, than spend time w scotty. Patience is a virtue guys. Every commando k.o, every weapon at adv or above. Don't give a damn bout my kdr, I will kill you.
Grimmiers 783	Posted - 2015.02.06 02:36:00 - [24] - Quote Or we could just have an warpoint option for deployable null cannon installations, or that warbarge strike that hits the mcc. The null cannon can potentially do more damage but can be hacked/destroyed by the enemy. Just increasing null cannon damage would be hard to convey to the new players that might miss update info.


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