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Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5904	Posted - 2015.02.03 14:29:00 - [1] - Quote I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 21574	Posted - 2015.02.03 14:31:00 - [2] - Quote Amen. Although I've recently started using the RR and what I do can't really be considered 'fighting' so much as 'hiding on a rooftop farming'. I'm sorry. *Vote 'Keshava' for a new Gallente vehicle name!* Gallente Guide to DUST
Clone D 1483	Posted - 2015.02.03 14:32:00 - [3] - Quote Through thick and thin, me sword's by yer side. Even when you have fallen, and I am the last one standing will I carry the torch, while picking off enemies on the perimeter until they track me down and extinguish my dying flicker.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3096	Posted - 2015.02.03 14:40:00 - [4] - Quote Turn on what game? I thought the forums was the game. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1604	Posted - 2015.02.03 14:45:00 - [5] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Molon just did this exact thing in a PC last night so be mad at yourself not the blueberries.
Ku Shala UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE 1193	Posted - 2015.02.03 14:49:00 - [6] - Quote its the update they are now grapes and you my friend have been graped! *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist Superior technology will privale.
Union118 Heaven's Lost Property 389	Posted - 2015.02.03 14:50:00 - [7] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 1510	Posted - 2015.02.03 14:54:00 - [8] - Quote Well seeing as you don't receive any SP if you don't yield WP's now (veterans?) perhaps they will try do something at least. DUSTSearch DUSTBoard DUST Server Status

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5905	Posted - 2015.02.03 15:24:00 - [9] - Quote Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. This makes no sense to me. We have had people using proto for the 2.5 years I've been playing. Matches were much tougher. People still fought. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 2070	Posted - 2015.02.03 15:30:00 - [10] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. This makes no sense to me. We have had people using proto for the 2.5 years I've been playing. Matches were much tougher. People still fought. The difference is it was not 16 players between 5 and 20 million SP being fed to squads of 6 with over 50 million SP each.

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5906	Posted - 2015.02.03 15:32:00 - [11] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. This makes no sense to me. We have had people using proto for the 2.5 years I've been playing. Matches were much tougher. People still fought. The difference is it was not 16 players between 5 and 20 million SP being fed to squads of 6 with over 50 million SP each. The difference is that people squaded up and used their R1 buttons I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Khulmach Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 143	Posted - 2015.02.03 15:40:00 - [12] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Turn on what game? I thought the forums was the game. Getting +50 for trolling a player,....damn some warberry stole my troll +25 troll assist-lame Darkness,Evil,Hatred,Even Fear My Ally.While The Light Taughts and Burns Me.I Have No Side But The Side I Choose.
Edau Skir2 Nefantar Raiders 350	Posted - 2015.02.03 15:50:00 - [13] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: its the update they are now grapes and you my friend have been graped! WOOOOOOOO! My new name for Bluebs stuck! Resident pasty smasher
Jebus McKing Nos Nothi 1386	Posted - 2015.02.03 16:02:00 - [14] - Quote There is just no point in leading the charge against a proto squad when your team only brings their best militia suits to feed the enemy. I will still try though, but many don't and I can't blame them. You can say what you want I still think the tiered gear system is overly harsh towards newer players. It's close to impossible for a new player to kill a vet even by chance. I just don't like the concept of increased stats for veteran players. The gear progression in Dust serves no other purpose but to separate the noobs from the vets. In high level engagements everyone uses the best gear anyway, and vets bringing superior gear to fight noobs in pubs only generates frustration. I'd rather see sidegrades and specialization than straight up stat increases. But I guess at this stage in Dust's lifecycle there is little chance for a change of mind. Jebus still hates scans.
Nirwanda Vaughns 1331	Posted - 2015.02.03 16:08:00 - [15] - Quote Some folk have 2 ps3s and 2 tvs setup and so afk on one and play the other? Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Riptalis Horizons' Edge 202	Posted - 2015.02.03 16:12:00 - [16] - Quote I will never give up, even if I'm the only one pushing A with absolutely no team mates... Python pilot Logistics mk.0 Assault mk.0
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7594	Posted - 2015.02.03 16:18:00 - [17] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Some folk have 2 ps3s and 2 tvs setup and so afk on one and play the other? Won't help them anymore. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1856	Posted - 2015.02.03 16:58:00 - [18] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. This makes no sense to me. We have had people using proto for the 2.5 years I've been playing. Matches were much tougher. People still fought. The difference is it was not 16 players between 5 and 20 million SP being fed to squads of 6 with over 50 million SP each. Does that really matter? At a certain point, all that, that SP does is grant flexibility and that isn't that much of an issue. If there was a team of highly flexible mercs actually working together, sure, but I doubt teamwork has shot up in my absence. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." http://royventus.tumblr.com
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 145	Posted - 2015.02.03 17:00:00 - [19] - Quote Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. Get a proto suit yourself or stop playing the game. Proto stompers are not the problem. The problem is putting 13 ** players on a team with 2 or 3 decent players and expecting those three people to hold up the rest of the team as they go up against an enemy team of mostly proto suits. Matchmaking and dumbass people with little to no situational awareness is what is **** up in this game.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5912	Posted - 2015.02.03 17:06:00 - [20] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. Get a proto suit yourself or stop playing the game. Proto stompers are not the problem. The problem is putting 13 ** players on a team with 2 or 3 decent players and expecting those three people to hold up the rest of the team as they go up against an enemy team of mostly proto suits. Matchmaking and dumbass people with little to no situational awareness is what is **** up in this game. I find it hard to believe that people are still blaming the gear. The gear isn't even really worth the expense. If you are on the team that is lucky enough to have people fighting the only reason you'd want proto gear is to survive the sniper shots that hit you once in a while. This is about the systemic failure of pushing team play and proper ISK payouts. I'm fairly convinced that someone is keeping Rattatti from raising payouts to push AUR sales. I can't think of any other reason why the payouts have remained so low. Even the new reward system is tied to SP and not ISK. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.

Grease Spillett Corrosive Synergy 679	Posted - 2015.02.03 17:07:00 - [21] - Quote Remove KD and people will stop that. Next time you see me, bring more friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 788	Posted - 2015.02.03 17:13:00 - [22] - Quote Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. People don't know what proto stomping is. Nowdays compared to what it used to be [about a year ago] ... now it's a joke. Loyal to State. Led by Tibus Heth. Not scared of death [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba]. Honour and Mission over money
Clone D 1493	Posted - 2015.02.03 17:14:00 - [23] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: People don't know what proto stomping is. Nowdays compared to what it used to be [about a year ago] ... now it's a joke. When I was a kid, I had to walk 10 miles though the snow, barefoot, to get to school where they whipped me with belts every time I got an answer wrong.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5912	Posted - 2015.02.03 17:15:00 - [24] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: Remove KD and people will stop that. I don't think the people causing the biggest issues give two ***** about their KD. They just aren't fighting. One of my matches this morning there was a sniper named Slipshot. Finished the match 2-0 with less than 200 WP. Or the other 12 solo players that died 4 or 5 times and just stopped. With 80% shields remaining the match was over. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Ku Shala UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE 1195	Posted - 2015.02.03 17:23:00 - [25] - Quote why push when 8-10 people are ambushing your every move because they constantly scan or made it on the side with 2 6man squads to your 3 man squad. spawning in 13 times to get to play 6 out of the 13 suit because you get insta ganked at the only available spawn or blown up by one of the 12 re on the cru/uplink. solo= impossible if you are trying to survive sure 2-3 kills per death is possible but with all the rapid fire control Scr CR users that deal 1000+ damage before you can react ..... . blah blah blah wall of text rant sorry work waiting to get home update and rage LMFAO send me a kitty.... *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist Superior technology will privale.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5912	Posted - 2015.02.03 17:28:00 - [26] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: why push when 8-10 people are ambushing your every move because they constantly scan or made it on the side with 2 6man squads to your 3 man squad. spawning in 13 times to get to play 6 out of the 13 suit because you get insta ganked at the only available spawn or blown up by one of the 12 re on the cru/uplink. solo= impossible if you are trying to survive sure 2-3 kills per death is possible but with all the rapid fire control Scr CR users that deal 1000+ damage before you can react ..... . blah blah blah wall of text rant sorry work waiting to get home update and rage LMFAO send me a kitty.... Well it certainly doesn't make sense if you don't get paid to push. Think about it, even if everyone continues to play solo if payouts were high enough for them to profit in ADV gear you'd have all those randoms on a more level playing field. We don't need tiered matches, we need randoms running better gear and coming down from the roofs to contribute. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3105	Posted - 2015.02.03 17:31:00 - [27] - Quote Dust User wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Molon just did this exact thing in a PC last night so be mad at yourself not the blueberries. So we are clear.... You attacked all eight (?) of our districts during our Silver interview as a troll two days ago. Yesterday, after you no-showed the first battle, we were under the impression it was going to be all-ML against all-KEQ for one of the battles later that night. You no-showed the next four battles while we pubbed. Then, when it was time to fight, we entered the barge and saw Derrith and a bunch of RG guys on your team. So we backed out... We rung the batphone, came back for the re-up...and beat your team by a click. Funny, you left that part out. To your credit, you did beat us on the next attack. Alas, you couldn't re-up because you didn't have the clones. So, last night, we no showed one battle and you no-showed six or seven. ...and that's the rest of the story.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5912	Posted - 2015.02.03 17:34:00 - [28] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Dust User wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Molon just did this exact thing in a PC last night so be mad at yourself not the blueberries. So we are clear.... You attacked all of our districts during our Silver interview as a troll two days ago. Yesterday, after you no-showed the first battle, we were told you would be fielding all KEQ for one of the battles later that night. We entered the battle and saw Derrith and a bunch of RG guys on your team. So we backed out... We rung the batphone, came back for the re-up...and beat your team by a click. Funny, you left that part out. To your credit, you did beat us on the next attack. Alas, you couldn't re-up because you didn't have the clones. ...and that's the rest of the story. A person who is friends with Dust User says he is actually a really cool dude. I try to remember that when I fantasize about slamming his face into his keyboard repeatedly. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3105	Posted - 2015.02.03 17:37:00 - [29] - Quote I hear the same thing. Alas, he's a real ass on the forums.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5913	Posted - 2015.02.03 17:39:00 - [30] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: I hear the same thing. Alas, he's a real ass on the forums. Not sure why people like to troll to get off on the internet. Just watch some p0rn. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.

Kuruld Sengar ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 185	Posted - 2015.02.03 18:01:00 - [31] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: its the update they are now grapes and you my friend have been graped! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqgiEQXGetI
Grease Spillett Corrosive Synergy 712	Posted - 2015.02.03 18:05:00 - [32] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Grease Spillett wrote: Remove KD and people will stop that. I don't think the people causing the biggest issues give two ***** about their KD. They just aren't fighting. One of my matches this morning there was a sniper named Slipshot. Finished the match 2-0 with less than 200 WP. Or the other 12 solo players that died 4 or 5 times and just stopped. With 80% shields remaining the match was over. I had a match when I went in with a squad of three. we had 13 friendly snipers. I believe this is K/d related people are scared to be judged by a lack of performance in this stat. Next time you see me, bring more friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1605	Posted - 2015.02.03 18:08:00 - [33] - Quote You beat us by a tick when we had 10 players for the first half of the match. Funny, you left that part out. Also, it was only 6 districts. In all honesty there was never any intention to try and flip any districts but since Sosa is sending my players mails again.... Well, ask him how that's worked for him in the past. No showing a battle from the start is a whole lot different than showing up, seeing the other team, panicking because you think you're going to lose, then backing out. TSO corps are such crybabies and it gives us lots of lols. Keep it up, boys.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5913	Posted - 2015.02.03 18:12:00 - [34] - Quote Dust User wrote: You beat us by a tick when we had 10 players for the first half of the match. Funny, you left that part out. Also, it was only 6 districts. In all honesty there was never any intention to try and flip any districts but since Sosa is sending my players mails again.... Well, ask him how that's worked for him in the past. No showing a battle from the start is a whole lot different than showing up, seeing the other team, panicking because you think you're going to lose, then backing out. TSO corps are such crybabies and it gives us lots of lols. Keep it up, boys. The tablets of KEQ PC Ethics should be released for public viewing. It's hard to keep up. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
noob cavman Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2075	Posted - 2015.02.03 18:16:00 - [35] - Quote Hey I am not a crybaby! I fight kinda maybe no I just chuck remotes and spam cores I want to be a caveman! Ccp: LEGION Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
Radar R4D-47 0uter.Heaven 925	Posted - 2015.02.03 18:19:00 - [36] - Quote 0.H way of PC is best way :)
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3107	Posted - 2015.02.03 18:36:00 - [37] - Quote Dust User wrote: You beat us by a tick when we had 10 players for the first half of the match. Funny, you left that part out. Also, it was only 6 districts. In all honesty there was never any intention to try and flip any districts but since Sosa is sending my players mails again.... Well, ask him how that's worked for him in the past. No showing a battle from the start is a whole lot different than showing up, seeing the other team, panicking because you think you're going to lose, then backing out. TSO corps are such crybabies and it gives us lots of lols. Keep it up, boys. Half of the match? lol Just like the emails our team received saying you won when you lost -- whatever you say, bro. And who's crying now? You don't see me/us making excuses about us being a player down that last match, do you? So you know, we never panicked. We lose all the time -- it's nothing new for either of us. We simply needed a few minutes to ring the batphone and replace a few of our less-experienced players with more experienced ones...when we saw your team of ringers, we responded in kind...by no showing one battle. Just like the four you already had now showed. That's all. And nobody is crying. You took the opportunity to troll this thread -- a thread that had nothing whatsoever to do with last night's battle. You no-showed four battles, we no showed one...yet you conveniently took the opportunity to point that out while leaving out the rest. There's no reason to be an ass about it, but for some reason you seem to relish in the opportunity. I'm simply setting the record straight for any readers interested. Sosa says hello.
Duke Noobiam The Dukes of Death 360	Posted - 2015.02.03 18:39:00 - [38] - Quote I've been thinking about how to help improve this and have realized that it's too bad that the team chat channel is not used more. I know the team channel can suck as immature players like to spam it with beat boxing, singing, screaming, and general attention getting behavior, but the biggest balance issue is having one team with coordinated play against a team with non-coordinated play. In my experience, the most successful squads are the ones where one player calls the match and leads the squad. So next time you are on a team that is not pushing, I encourage vets to use the team channel to call out which objectives/installations to take next, ask for uplinks, call out rally points, and give basic general direction (like: someone flux that uplink, take out that logi, etc). Maybe a few blues will listen to the directions and the team might play cohesively.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 7453	Posted - 2015.02.03 18:49:00 - [39] - Quote Duke Noobiam wrote: I know the team channel can suck as immature players like to spam it with beat boxing, singing, screaming, and general attention getting behavior. I don't want to derail this thread, so no need to reply to this post, but I once had a squeaker tell me that he was going to sexually assault me with a McDonald's hamburger. I could not stop laughing for the rest of the match. It was very distracting. Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley. @Ripley_Riley
noob cavman Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2076	Posted - 2015.02.03 18:53:00 - [40] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: I know the team channel can suck as immature players like to spam it with beat boxing, singing, screaming, and general attention getting behavior. I don't want to derail this thread, so no need to reply to this post, but I once had a squeaker tell me that he was going to sexually assault me with a McDonald's hamburger. I could not stop laughing for the rest of the match. It was very distracting. Im sorry What!? I want to be a caveman! Ccp: LEGION Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.

Clone D 1506	Posted - 2015.02.03 18:55:00 - [41] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: I know the team channel can suck as immature players like to spam it with beat boxing, singing, screaming, and general attention getting behavior. I don't want to derail this thread, so no need to reply to this post, but I once had a squeaker tell me that he was going to sexually assault me with a McDonald's hamburger. I could not stop laughing for the rest of the match. It was very distracting. Im sorry What!? Like a McRibbed? Those have exhilarating texture.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 7453	Posted - 2015.02.03 18:59:00 - [42] - Quote Clone D wrote: Like a McRibbed? Those have exhilarating texture. He just said "McDonald's hamburger". Next time I see him I'll let him know the levels of pleasure that can be derived from a McRib. Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley. @Ripley_Riley
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2061	Posted - 2015.02.03 19:15:00 - [43] - Quote Whenever my regular buddies aren't on and I decide to join squad finder I run into the worst players imaginable. Every single time it's either a bunch of people with no mics and no coordination (everyone flailing about doing their own thing) or its 2-3 people playing 20 questions because they're 'recruiting' for their MLG ultra-pro swag 420 deathsniper corp. When they do actually enter battle 90% of these self-proclaimed badasses end up going like 0-72 with 5wp. I've literally played with people who actually have cerebral palsy and cannot use the right joystick that play better than the majority of these 'people'. Dust fundamentally is not an incredibly difficult game, it's only 'hard' because of the 'teamwork' requirement. I will be incredibly happy when snipers stop getting sp and isk for their non-contributions in a match. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1609	Posted - 2015.02.03 20:50:00 - [44] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Dust User wrote: You beat us by a tick when we had 10 players for the first half of the match. Funny, you left that part out. Also, it was only 6 districts. In all honesty there was never any intention to try and flip any districts but since Sosa is sending my players mails again.... Well, ask him how that's worked for him in the past. No showing a battle from the start is a whole lot different than showing up, seeing the other team, panicking because you think you're going to lose, then backing out. TSO corps are such crybabies and it gives us lots of lols. Keep it up, boys. The tablets of KEQ PC Ethics should be released for public viewing. It's hard to keep up. You're right. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=189792&find=unread
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5917	Posted - 2015.02.03 21:09:00 - [45] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: I know the team channel can suck as immature players like to spam it with beat boxing, singing, screaming, and general attention getting behavior. I don't want to derail this thread, so no need to reply to this post, but I once had a squeaker tell me that he was going to sexually assault me with a McDonald's hamburger. I could not stop laughing for the rest of the match. It was very distracting. I was violated by a small order of fries once I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
xavier zor Rogue Instincts 506	Posted - 2015.02.04 00:32:00 - [46] - Quote Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. I respect proto stompers on 2 conditions 1. They run solo. 90% of the time they do not have a proto-squad as their crutch 2. They have at most a few million ISK. I have 300k ISK and run proto. It means i can sustain proto gear by using superior gun-game and tactics to minimize deaths. looking for PC corporation also looking for lonely heavies to knife >:) heavies looking for me
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 719	Posted - 2015.02.04 01:35:00 - [47] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. Get a proto suit yourself or stop playing the game. Proto stompers are not the problem. The problem is putting 13 ** players on a team with 2 or 3 decent players and expecting those three people to hold up the rest of the team as they go up against an enemy team of mostly proto suits. Matchmaking and dumbass people with little to no situational awareness is what is **** up in this game. This^^^ ThorOdinson42 is right about the payout system. Far too low, and I don't understand why? If I've put 200k into a battle the payout is the same as if I've put 1 mil in. Kill 25 get 200k. Kill 5 get 200k. I don't get it? Now they say vets get even lower payouts if we don't go balls to the wall, but if we do the payouts are still low? Wait a minute?! The matchmaker needs to stop being referred to because it clearly is a notional idea. There's no way CCP can come here and say "there is a working matchmaker" with a straight face. 99% of all matches are one sided as ever. I've been on teams where the enemy team only had one true blue that wasn't in squad, and our team had our 4 man squad fighting tooth and nail for no reason. The other 12 were sniping, afk, or redline tanking. However, we can blame alot of things, but it comes down to integrity. Some of these players i dont even want on my team. They won't push a swing set let alone a point! They have no intention of helping anyone. They still play this game like they playing C.O.D., and to them it's all about the leaderboards. They will see you engaging a target, but will not fire on him because they may not get the kill. I've watched this bs happen. They fight like they hate their team mates more than the enemy. The fundamentals of team play have been washed away by the solo merc mentality. Low isk payout, bad matchmaking, and incompetency doesn't help. Some of these players make me wonder if they're this backwards in real life. I've even attempted to use the ever so useless team chat. Screamed in it, typed in it, but all for nothing. I just wanna know why they don't carry equipment? No links, no ammo, no scanners, but that rep tool gets major play lol! Then people complain about tankers with equipment?! You wouldn't have any links in some matches if i didn't jump out, kill a guy, drop a link, and fight the tank off you! What I don't understand is guys like Thor are almost never on my team even "accidentally". You mean to tell me the matchmaker can put me against 6 Nyain san or a full q sync of two PC team squads 12 deep, but I can't get another competent player unless I bring em? I've been in matches that were utter landslides, but this matchmaker never puts me on teams with FA, third rock, or other strong players? It seems I'm doomed to carry academy graduates into quitting the game?! The phrase "team carry" has become a household phrase. Need a back brace when carrying the team I've been doing it so long. I've even wrote to Saxonmish on one of his vids saying that one day the matchmaker will bless us to be on the same team so he has some FCKING help when he loses a dom after going 55/7 while his entire team goes fcking negative, and loses the match?! If he's fresh out of the academy he's basically cannon fodder while we get crushed for not having team mates. "Anybody order chaos?"
pumping up Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 134	Posted - 2015.02.04 01:37:00 - [48] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: The phrase "team carry" has become a household phrase. Need a back brace when carrying the team I've been doing it so long. I've even wrote to Saxonmish on one of his vids saying that one day the matchmaker will bless us to be on the same team so he has some FCKING help when he loses a dom after going 55/7 while his entire team goes fcking negative, and loses the match?! . You know... just killing the enemy in the redline/cru doesn't win the game... (farming those freshberries) Perhaps good ol' saxonmish should instead of camping spawns capture/destroy them. Help me gain the C-II Dropsuit Pilot & Saboteur
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 719	Posted - 2015.02.04 01:47:00 - [49] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Grease Spillett wrote: Remove KD and people will stop that. I don't think the people causing the biggest issues give two ***** about their KD. They just aren't fighting. One of my matches this morning there was a sniper named Slipshot. Finished the match 2-0 with less than 200 WP. Or the other 12 solo players that died 4 or 5 times and just stopped. With 80% shields remaining the match was over. D*mn shame?! This game used to be beautifully brutal with every match going down to the wire. Then these guys showed up.... in dresses?! "Anybody order chaos?"
xavier zor Rogue Instincts 516	Posted - 2015.02.04 01:50:00 - [50] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: This^^^ ThorOdinson42 is right about the payout system. Far too low, and I don't understand why? If I've put 200k into a battle the payout is the same as if I've put 1 mil in. Kill 25 get 200k. Kill 5 get 200k. We all know this is not what happens. If you kill 25 people you will obviously earn more WP's than if you kill 5 people. So in turn you get more ISK. Nothing to complain about here. The only valid thing is about when you put 200k in a battle and 1 mil in. That needs to be changed, as 'proto-stompers' who are apparently KD whores have to be to sustain ISK losses. If ISK payout systems improved then i am sure we would see more players willing to fight and LOSE suits to WIN looking for PC corporation also looking for lonely heavies to knife >:) heavies looking for me

Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 720	Posted - 2015.02.04 01:51:00 - [51] - Quote pumping up wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: The phrase "team carry" has become a household phrase. Need a back brace when carrying the team I've been doing it so long. I've even wrote to Saxonmish on one of his vids saying that one day the matchmaker will bless us to be on the same team so he has some FCKING help when he loses a dom after going 55/7 while his entire team goes fcking negative, and loses the match?! . You know... just killing the enemy in the redline/cru doesn't win the game... (farming those freshberries) Perhaps good ol' saxonmish should instead of camping spawns capture/destroy them. If he's successfully killed 50+ guys I would think the point would be open for business, wouldn't you? If I've got a slayer on my team i don't ask him to stop slaying and get a swarm launcher for the tank. I GET THE D*MN SWARM LAUNCHER MYSELF!!! The man has killed the whole team! ATLEAST TWICE! The least I can do is push the objective for the hack FFS! "Anybody order chaos?"
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 720	Posted - 2015.02.04 01:56:00 - [52] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: This^^^ ThorOdinson42 is right about the payout system. Far too low, and I don't understand why? If I've put 200k into a battle the payout is the same as if I've put 1 mil in. Kill 25 get 200k. Kill 5 get 200k. We all know this is not what happens. If you kill 25 people you will obviously earn more WP's than if you kill 5 people. So in turn you get more ISK. Nothing to complain about here. The only valid thing is about when you put 200k in a battle and 1 mil in. That needs to be changed, as 'proto-stompers' who are apparently KD whores have to be to sustain ISK losses. If ISK payout systems improved then i am sure we would see more players willing to fight and LOSE suits to WIN Generalized a bit, but you got the jist. Payouts are the same as they were day 1, but we've all evolved in performance ability. I can't be too mad at the blues for not bringing proto when they know they wI'll still only average 200-300k at the most. Using better gear+damage dealt+overall team performance should= Big payouts. Some matches I can break 500k, but I probably spent way more than that?! "Anybody order chaos?"
D4GG3R 779	Posted - 2015.02.04 02:17:00 - [53] - Quote PC is fun:) I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs
501st Headstrong 0uter.Heaven 831	Posted - 2015.02.04 02:20:00 - [54] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. Get a proto suit yourself or stop playing the game. Proto stompers are not the problem. The problem is putting 13 ** players on a team with 2 or 3 decent players and expecting those three people to hold up the rest of the team as they go up against an enemy team of mostly proto suits. Matchmaking and dumbass people with little to no situational awareness is what is **** up in this game. This^^^ ThorOdinson42 is right about the payout system. Far too low, and I don't understand why? If I've put 200k into a battle the payout is the same as if I've put 1 mil in. Kill 25 get 200k. Kill 5 get 200k. I don't get it? Now they say vets get even lower payouts if we don't go balls to the wall, but if we do the payouts are still low? Wait a minute?! The matchmaker needs to stop being referred to because it clearly is a notional idea. There's no way CCP can come here and say "there is a working matchmaker" with a straight face. 99% of all matches are one sided as ever. I've been on teams where the enemy team only had one true blue that wasn't in squad, and our team had our 4 man squad fighting tooth and nail for no reason. The other 12 were sniping, afk, or redline tanking. However, we can blame alot of things, but it comes down to integrity. Some of these players i dont even want on my team. They won't push a swing set let alone a point! They have no intention of helping anyone. They still play this game like they playing C.O.D., and to them it's all about the leaderboards. They will see you engaging a target, but will not fire on him because they may not get the kill. I've watched this bs happen. They fight like they hate their team mates more than the enemy. The fundamentals of team play have been washed away by the solo merc mentality. Low isk payout, bad matchmaking, and incompetency doesn't help. Some of these players make me wonder if they're this backwards in real life. I've even attempted to use the ever so useless team chat. Screamed in it, typed in it, but all for nothing. I just wanna know why they don't carry equipment? No links, no ammo, no scanners, but that rep tool gets major play lol! Then people complain about tankers with equipment?! You wouldn't have any links in some matches if i didn't jump out, kill a guy, drop a link, and fight the tank off you! What I don't understand is guys like Thor are almost never on my team even "accidentally". You mean to tell me the matchmaker can put me against 6 Nyain san or a full q sync of two PC team squads 12 deep, but I can't get another competent player unless I bring em? I've been in matches that were utter landslides, but this matchmaker never puts me on teams with FA, third rock, or other strong players? It seems I'm doomed to carry academy graduates into quitting the game?! The phrase "team carry" has become a household phrase. Need a back brace when carrying the team I've been doing it so long. I've even wrote to Saxonmish on one of his vids saying that one day the matchmaker will bless us to be on the same team so he has some FCKING help when he loses a dom after going 55/7 while his entire team goes fcking negative, and loses the match?! If he's fresh out of the academy he's basically cannon fodder while we get crushed for not having team mates. Join T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K. Pub to squad up with Sax. #SandCastles for Thor and Leadfoot, An 0uter.Heaven for me and some other OH guys. Pub chats are the way man. The people who won pubs are those who bring a team of their own. I run proto when I recognize other proto users against me. If a stomp, militia. Most logic is, stonp the other team before they smash us. Sadly miltia gets caught in the crossfire "There are no rights. The world owes no one a living."-Sumner Official 0uter.Heaven Mascot XD Moody come back SWBF3!!
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6333	Posted - 2015.02.04 02:25:00 - [55] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: We don't need tiered matches, we need randoms running better gear and coming down from the roofs to contribute. What we need is to fix matchmaking. Reduce squad size to 4 or implement meta locks in pubs. The party boy stompsquads have had their fun; it is time we acknowledge that they're breaking the game and commit to doing something about it. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
DIX RFOR CHICKS Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2015.02.04 03:06:00 - [56] - Quote Clone D wrote: Mejt0 wrote: People don't know what proto stomping is. Nowdays compared to what it used to be [about a year ago] ... now it's a joke. When I was a kid, I had to walk 10 miles though the snow, barefoot, to get to school where they whipped me with belts every time I got an answer wrong. Don't forget it was uphill both ways.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7611	Posted - 2015.02.04 04:12:00 - [57] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: I know the team channel can suck as immature players like to spam it with beat boxing, singing, screaming, and general attention getting behavior. I don't want to derail this thread, so no need to reply to this post, but I once had a squeaker tell me that he was going to sexually assault me with a McDonald's hamburger. I could not stop laughing for the rest of the match. It was very distracting. McDonald's hamburger sexual assault is no laughing matter. You never know what you could get from those things. You could end up with more STDs than the floor of a Bankok whorehouse. So I have heard from a friend, I wouldn't know anything about it. You don't want McSyfilis. Don't nobody want McSyfilis. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
demonkiller 12 State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 594	Posted - 2015.02.04 04:58:00 - [58] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. This makes no sense to me. We have had people using proto for the 2.5 years I've been playing. Matches were much tougher. People still fought. people fought much harder when the first proto squads emerged, it was like downing a raid boss in wow and everyone felt so accomplished
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5997	Posted - 2015.02.04 05:26:00 - [59] - Quote I'm sorry. Jk. No, I'm not.
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 150	Posted - 2015.02.04 05:35:00 - [60] - Quote Duke Noobiam wrote: I've been thinking about how to help improve this and have realized that it's too bad the team chat channel is not used more. I know the team channel can suck as immature players like to spam it with beat boxing, singing, screaming, and general attention getting behavior (mute button should be used on these people), but the biggest balance issue is having one team with coordinated play against a team with non-coordinated play. In my experience, the most successful squads are the ones where one player calls the match and leads the squad. So next time you are on a team that is not pushing, I encourage vets to use the team channel to call out which objectives/installations to take next, ask for uplinks, call out rally points, and give basic general direction (like: someone flux that uplink, take out that logi, etc). Maybe a few blues will listen to the directions and the team might play cohesively. You bring up a good point. It would be nice to be able to mute specific people instead of having to mute everyone.

Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5997	Posted - 2015.02.04 05:43:00 - [61] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: I've been thinking about how to help improve this and have realized that it's too bad the team chat channel is not used more. I know the team channel can suck as immature players like to spam it with beat boxing, singing, screaming, and general attention getting behavior (mute button should be used on these people), but the biggest balance issue is having one team with coordinated play against a team with non-coordinated play. In my experience, the most successful squads are the ones where one player calls the match and leads the squad. So next time you are on a team that is not pushing, I encourage vets to use the team channel to call out which objectives/installations to take next, ask for uplinks, call out rally points, and give basic general direction (like: someone flux that uplink, take out that logi, etc). Maybe a few blues will listen to the directions and the team might play cohesively. You bring up a good point. It would be nice to be able to mute specific people instead of having to mute everyone. There is... well, haven't used in in months so maybe it's gone?
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 9783	Posted - 2015.02.04 05:58:00 - [62] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. Get a proto suit yourself or stop playing the game. Proto stompers are not the problem. The problem is putting 13 ** players on a team with 2 or 3 decent players and expecting those three people to hold up the rest of the team as they go up against an enemy team of mostly proto suits. Matchmaking and dumbass people with little to no situational awareness is what is **** up in this game. This^^^ ThorOdinson42 is right about the payout system. Far too low, and I don't understand why? If I've put 200k into a battle the payout is the same as if I've put 1 mil in. Kill 25 get 200k. Kill 5 get 200k. I don't get it? Now they say vets get even lower payouts if we don't go balls to the wall, but if we do the payouts are still low? Wait a minute?! The matchmaker needs to stop being referred to because it clearly is a notional idea. There's no way CCP can come here and say "there is a working matchmaker" with a straight face. 99% of all matches are one sided as ever. I've been on teams where the enemy team only had one true blue that wasn't in squad, and our team had our 4 man squad fighting tooth and nail for no reason. The other 12 were sniping, afk, or redline tanking. However, we can blame alot of things, but it comes down to integrity. Some of these players i dont even want on my team. They won't push a swing set let alone a point! They have no intention of helping anyone. They still play this game like they playing C.O.D., and to them it's all about the leaderboards. They will see you engaging a target, but will not fire on him because they may not get the kill. I've watched this bs happen. They fight like they hate their team mates more than the enemy. The fundamentals of team play have been washed away by the solo merc mentality. Low isk payout, bad matchmaking, and incompetency doesn't help. Some of these players make me wonder if they're this backwards in real life. I've even attempted to use the ever so useless team chat. Screamed in it, typed in it, but all for nothing. I just wanna know why they don't carry equipment? No links, no ammo, no scanners, but that rep tool gets major play lol! Then people complain about tankers with equipment?! You wouldn't have any links in some matches if i didn't jump out, kill a guy, drop a link, and fight the tank off you! What I don't understand is guys like Thor are almost never on my team even "accidentally". You mean to tell me the matchmaker can put me against 6 Nyain san or a full q sync of two PC team squads 12 deep, but I can't get another competent player unless I bring em? I've been in matches that were utter landslides, but this matchmaker never puts me on teams with FA, third rock, or other strong players? It seems I'm doomed to carry academy graduates into quitting the game?! The phrase "team carry" has become a household phrase. Need a back brace when carrying the team I've been doing it so long. I've even wrote to Saxonmish on one of his vids saying that one day the matchmaker will bless us to be on the same team so he has some FCKING help when he loses a dom after going 55/7 while his entire team goes fcking negative, and loses the match?! If he's fresh out of the academy he's basically cannon fodder while we get crushed for not having team mates. The reason why you guys are never put on strong teams is SIMPLE. Anyone decent knows they must squad up to succeed. So (Insert Corp Here) forms a squad and heads in. Well, our Mu is crazy right now. So we normally get a lot of newberries. This means that if you are in the same que as us, anyone DECENT will be put on the other side. And most are solo players. 6 Strong Players together will always stomp a team of 8 or so decent players who don't link up. The solution to this? SQUAD UP. Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe. Nobody messes with my family
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7612	Posted - 2015.02.04 07:31:00 - [63] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. Get a proto suit yourself or stop playing the game. Proto stompers are not the problem. The problem is putting 13 ** players on a team with 2 or 3 decent players and expecting those three people to hold up the rest of the team as they go up against an enemy team of mostly proto suits. Matchmaking and dumbass people with little to no situational awareness is what is **** up in this game. This^^^ ThorOdinson42 is right about the payout system. Far too low, and I don't understand why? If I've put 200k into a battle the payout is the same as if I've put 1 mil in. Kill 25 get 200k. Kill 5 get 200k. I don't get it? Now they say vets get even lower payouts if we don't go balls to the wall, but if we do the payouts are still low? Wait a minute?! The matchmaker needs to stop being referred to because it clearly is a notional idea. There's no way CCP can come here and say "there is a working matchmaker" with a straight face. 99% of all matches are one sided as ever. I've been on teams where the enemy team only had one true blue that wasn't in squad, and our team had our 4 man squad fighting tooth and nail for no reason. The other 12 were sniping, afk, or redline tanking. However, we can blame alot of things, but it comes down to integrity. Some of these players i dont even want on my team. They won't push a swing set let alone a point! They have no intention of helping anyone. They still play this game like they playing C.O.D., and to them it's all about the leaderboards. They will see you engaging a target, but will not fire on him because they may not get the kill. I've watched this bs happen. They fight like they hate their team mates more than the enemy. The fundamentals of team play have been washed away by the solo merc mentality. Low isk payout, bad matchmaking, and incompetency doesn't help. Some of these players make me wonder if they're this backwards in real life. I've even attempted to use the ever so useless team chat. Screamed in it, typed in it, but all for nothing. I just wanna know why they don't carry equipment? No links, no ammo, no scanners, but that rep tool gets major play lol! Then people complain about tankers with equipment?! You wouldn't have any links in some matches if i didn't jump out, kill a guy, drop a link, and fight the tank off you! What I don't understand is guys like Thor are almost never on my team even "accidentally". You mean to tell me the matchmaker can put me against 6 Nyain san or a full q sync of two PC team squads 12 deep, but I can't get another competent player unless I bring em? I've been in matches that were utter landslides, but this matchmaker never puts me on teams with FA, third rock, or other strong players? It seems I'm doomed to carry academy graduates into quitting the game?! The phrase "team carry" has become a household phrase. Need a back brace when carrying the team I've been doing it so long. I've even wrote to Saxonmish on one of his vids saying that one day the matchmaker will bless us to be on the same team so he has some FCKING help when he loses a dom after going 55/7 while his entire team goes fcking negative, and loses the match?! If he's fresh out of the academy he's basically cannon fodder while we get crushed for not having team mates. The reason why you guys are never put on strong teams is SIMPLE. Anyone decent knows they must squad up to succeed. So (Insert Corp Here) forms a squad and heads in. Well, our Mu is crazy right now. So we normally get a lot of newberries. This means that if you are in the same que as us, anyone DECENT will be put on the other side. And most are solo players. 6 Strong Players together will always stomp a team of 8 or so decent players who don't link up. The solution to this? SQUAD UP. OR it could put a squad with a similar Mu opposite you so that it doesn't force people to play squads in a pub for any of the number of legitimate reasons that people don't play in squads so that CCP doesn't alienate a significant portion of the video game playing community and further deter more people from playing the game and keeping with it than it already is. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 606	Posted - 2015.02.04 07:42:00 - [64] - Quote People still talking about proto stompers lmao I bet you play street fighter and say no throwing hadoukens
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 725	Posted - 2015.02.04 07:49:00 - [65] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Bradric Banewolf wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. Get a proto suit yourself or stop playing the game. Proto stompers are not the problem. The problem is putting 13 ** players on a team with 2 or 3 decent players and expecting those three people to hold up the rest of the team as they go up against an enemy team of mostly proto suits. Matchmaking and dumbass people with little to no situational awareness is what is **** up in this game. This^^^ ThorOdinson42 is right about the payout system. Far too low, and I don't understand why? If I've put 200k into a battle the payout is the same as if I've put 1 mil in. Kill 25 get 200k. Kill 5 get 200k. I don't get it? Now they say vets get even lower payouts if we don't go balls to the wall, but if we do the payouts are still low? Wait a minute?! The matchmaker needs to stop being referred to because it clearly is a notional idea. There's no way CCP can come here and say "there is a working matchmaker" with a straight face. 99% of all matches are one sided as ever. I've been on teams where the enemy team only had one true blue that wasn't in squad, and our team had our 4 man squad fighting tooth and nail for no reason. The other 12 were sniping, afk, or redline tanking. However, we can blame alot of things, but it comes down to integrity. Some of these players i dont even want on my team. They won't push a swing set let alone a point! They have no intention of helping anyone. They still play this game like they playing C.O.D., and to them it's all about the leaderboards. They will see you engaging a target, but will not fire on him because they may not get the kill. I've watched this bs happen. They fight like they hate their team mates more than the enemy. The fundamentals of team play have been washed away by the solo merc mentality. Low isk payout, bad matchmaking, and incompetency doesn't help. Some of these players make me wonder if they're this backwards in real life. I've even attempted to use the ever so useless team chat. Screamed in it, typed in it, but all for nothing. I just wanna know why they don't carry equipment? No links, no ammo, no scanners, but that rep tool gets major play lol! Then people complain about tankers with equipment?! You wouldn't have any links in some matches if i didn't jump out, kill a guy, drop a link, and fight the tank off you! What I don't understand is guys like Thor are almost never on my team even "accidentally". You mean to tell me the matchmaker can put me against 6 Nyain san or a full q sync of two PC team squads 12 deep, but I can't get another competent player unless I bring em? I've been in matches that were utter landslides, but this matchmaker never puts me on teams with FA, third rock, or other strong players? It seems I'm doomed to carry academy graduates into quitting the game?! The phrase "team carry" has become a household phrase. Need a back brace when carrying the team I've been doing it so long. I've even wrote to Saxonmish on one of his vids saying that one day the matchmaker will bless us to be on the same team so he has some FCKING help when he loses a dom after going 55/7 while his entire team goes fcking negative, and loses the match?! If he's fresh out of the academy he's basically cannon fodder while we get crushed for not having team mates. The reason why you guys are never put on strong teams is SIMPLE. Anyone decent knows they must squad up to succeed. So (Insert Corp Here) forms a squad and heads in. Well, our Mu is crazy right now. So we normally get a lot of newberries. This means that if you are in the same que as us, anyone DECENT will be put on the other side. And most are solo players. 6 Strong Players together will always stomp a team of 8 or so decent players who don't link up. The solution to this? SQUAD UP. I'm actually in squad about 95% of the time. That's not the issue. The problem is the other 10 are sh*t! Sometimes I do play solo. I follow blueberry players around, and watch them bumble smh?! "Anybody order chaos?"
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 353	Posted - 2015.02.04 09:34:00 - [66] - Quote I only need to look at the teams at the beginning of the game. Its already been decided. I drop uplinks so i can farm my blueberries as the enemy farms them and because of Neverending scans, they take out the uplinks so i can't even have that. You wonder why some people don't fight? Sometimes its pointless. Id like it if when there is an obvious stomp thats going to happen all the blueberries just hide deep in the redline and do nothing to make it the longest most boring game ever. "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 326	Posted - 2015.02.04 09:54:00 - [67] - Quote Very simple causes: 1) If you see you have no chance, you don't throw yourself into the meatgrinder for no gain. 2) If you have the hope to be on par some day with enough SP and Proto, you will farm to that goal. Combine the two and you have AFK farmers. Dust Noobs live off that hope. If they wouldnt have it, they wouldnt play at all. Instead they play this horrid travesty of a tactic. When I started out I would go full sniper for about 5 Mio SP. So I know the mindset. But its really a stupid experience. Now with my 30 Mio SP and Proto power (and some flexibility within proto power) I can compete somewhat and contribute to a victory. As a noob that is close to impossible. The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1510	Posted - 2015.02.04 11:18:00 - [68] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. You know the answer you just don't like it. Protostomping and full squads ruin any chance of an even match so it is almost always funner to just wait a mismatch out than keep beating your head against the wall and lose tons of ISK. Because, that's why.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1510	Posted - 2015.02.04 11:22:00 - [69] - Quote And yes, I sometimes squad up and then I just become a stomper and am part of the problem. Because, that's why.
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 417	Posted - 2015.02.04 11:25:00 - [70] - Quote You kidding? I love 4-5 matches in a row, looking around and wondering where in Gods name all the blueberries are. Look on the over head map... And they are no where to be seen ;~; Actually had one match, had to call in a dropship and scrape SEVEN blueberries, all sniping, off atower to get them in the game o:< .... It was like using a butter knife to scrape off excess from toast :3 G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-

hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 608	Posted - 2015.02.04 16:54:00 - [71] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: You kidding? I love 4-5 matches in a row, looking around and wondering where in Gods name all the blueberries are. Look on the over head map... And they are no where to be seen ;~; Actually had one match, had to call in a dropship and scrape SEVEN blueberries, all sniping, off atower to get them in the game o:< .... It was like using a butter knife to scrape off excess from toast :3 i like that
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2935	Posted - 2015.02.04 17:00:00 - [72] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: Remove KD and people will stop that. KDR matchmaking removes KDR. Straight up. KDR matchmaking would patch all the patches into pure patchitudity.
DRAGON11213 STEEL Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1	Posted - 2015.02.04 17:03:00 - [73] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Duke Noobiam wrote: I know the team channel can suck as immature players like to spam it with beat boxing, singing, screaming, and general attention getting behavior. I don't want to derail this thread, so no need to reply to this post, but I once had a squeaker tell me that he was going to sexually assault me with a McDonald's hamburger. I could not stop laughing for the rest of the match. It was very distracting. Omg lol im sick but this made me laugh so hard lol. i cant stop laughing/coughing xd
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 320	Posted - 2015.02.04 17:19:00 - [74] - Quote When I see that the 'grapes' are falling on their face, I grab a free/cheap uplink scout and try and guide them with decent uplink placement Rise and shine CCP. It's time to implement ping based match making.
DRAGON11213 STEEL Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1	Posted - 2015.02.04 17:32:00 - [75] - Quote I think we have all forgotten what its like to be a n ew player in dust
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 382	Posted - 2015.02.04 18:01:00 - [76] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Grease Spillett wrote: Remove KD and people will stop that. I don't think the people causing the biggest issues give two ***** about their KD. They just aren't fighting. One of my matches this morning there was a sniper named Slipshot. Finished the match 2-0 with less than 200 WP. Or the other 12 solo players that died 4 or 5 times and just stopped. With 80% shields remaining the match was over. I had a match when I went in with a squad of three. we had 13 friendly snipers. I believe this is K/d related people are scared to be judged by a lack of performance in this stat. I don't think its about k/d whores. I think its about fun. Games are supposed to be fun. When a game is basically a 6v1 at all times because your teamates are getting cut down immediately upon spawning, it ceases to be fun. When games cease to be fun most people stop playing them.
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 382	Posted - 2015.02.04 18:04:00 - [77] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Grease Spillett wrote: Remove KD and people will stop that. KDR matchmaking removes KDR. Straight up. KDR matchmaking does not work in a game where some roles have dramatically higher K/D ratios than others in a competitive environment. If you take KDR matchmaking to its inevitable conclusion you will have the high KDR games filled with snipers and vehicle users and low KDR games filled with logis, hack suit minmitar scouts, and ****** heavies.
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 382	Posted - 2015.02.04 18:07:00 - [78] - Quote hold that wrote: People still talking about proto stompers lmao I bet you play street fighter and say no throwing hadoukens "STREET FIGHTER WOULD STILL BE FUN IF THE OTHER PLAYER HAD 3X MY HEALTH AND ALL HIS ATTACKS DID 20-30% MORE DAMAGE XD" I love how people still insist that running proto gear isnt a huge advantage. It lets me know who the disingenuous assholes or thoughtless morons are without even talking with them at all.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5964	Posted - 2015.02.04 18:22:00 - [79] - Quote Maybe a notification after each 1-12 match that says, " you suck, squad up" ???? I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5967	Posted - 2015.02.04 18:55:00 - [80] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: hold that wrote: People still talking about proto stompers lmao I bet you play street fighter and say no throwing hadoukens "STREET FIGHTER WOULD STILL BE FUN IF THE OTHER PLAYER HAD 3X MY HEALTH AND ALL HIS ATTACKS DID 20-30% MORE DAMAGE XD" I love how people still insist that running proto gear isnt a huge advantage. It lets me know who the disingenuous assholes or thoughtless morons are without even talking with them at all. It's not the proto though. It wouldn't matter if the good players were in STD. They are squaded up and working together vs a bunch of solo players. Some of these guys that whine about proto were doing it a year ago. Did CCP pause their SP accumulation? They should have proto by now as well as the passive skills to compete. You see it in the kill feed, there are plenty of people that have obviously dropped money on boosters and other AUR stuff. 1. For years it's been more profitable to play passive instead of pushing for a win. 2. Corporate taxes have led many people to forgo corporations for playing passively in pubs. 3. Scout meta for the longest time allowed for people to have great success without needing a squad. 4. People playing passively while others have developed and honed their skills to become better. There are a lot of factors that have led to this solo/passive play that plagues pub matches. Blaming proto is the easy way out. If the PC proto squads were facing squads of players in ADV gear or better matches would be vastly more balanced than they are now. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.

Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 331	Posted - 2015.02.05 08:45:00 - [81] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: hold that wrote: People still talking about proto stompers lmao I bet you play street fighter and say no throwing hadoukens "STREET FIGHTER WOULD STILL BE FUN IF THE OTHER PLAYER HAD 3X MY HEALTH AND ALL HIS ATTACKS DID 20-30% MORE DAMAGE XD" I love how people still insist that running proto gear isnt a huge advantage. It lets me know who the disingenuous assholes or thoughtless morons are without even talking with them at all. It's not the proto though. It wouldn't matter if the good players were in STD. They are squaded up and working together vs a bunch of solo players. Some of these guys that whine about proto were doing it a year ago. Did CCP pause their SP accumulation? They should have proto by now as well as the passive skills to compete. You see it in the kill feed, there are plenty of people that have obviously dropped money on boosters and other AUR stuff. 1. For years it's been more profitable to play passive instead of pushing for a win. 2. Corporate taxes have led many people to forgo corporations for playing passively in pubs. 3. Scout meta for the longest time allowed for people to have great success without needing a squad. 4. People playing passively while others have developed and honed their skills to become better. There are a lot of factors that have led to this solo/passive play that plagues pub matches. Blaming proto is the easy way out. If the PC proto squads were facing squads of players in ADV gear or better matches would be vastly more balanced than they are now. Define "Passive Play". I mean I run Solo almost exclusively, because I dont have time to wait for squads. I log in, play 1-2 rounds ASAP and am out again. 35 minutes to 1 hour per day. Because life. So theres my excuse for this. But playing "Passive", if not actually AFKing (AFKing sucks), seems pretty OK for me. If you see you are in a stomp, you know you wont accomplish anything in the direction of victory. Real armies do this: "orderly retreat". Since this is impossible if you want to stay in battle you have to find other ways to occupy yourself. You dont want to AFK you know. So what are the only things you can do? Snipe long range with whatever you have on hand. Scout and Ninja-Hack stuff, place uplinks where unexpected by the enemy (and hope someone is stupid enough to spawn on them). In the end it makes 0 sense to stay in battle, if you can NOT A) win the battle, B) make some WP, C) make some kills, D) get some ISK &/or SP to develop their character (or E: **** around for fun, but that doesnt count here). AFKers see they cant do any of the first and resort to D and D only. Just repeatedly throw your dead body at the enemy, just to give them kills? That doesnt feel good, it isnt fun, its a waste of ISK. Well saying that I ran some matches, throwing my APEX heavy at the superior opposition. But it didnt cost me anything and I could get some WP/Kills out of it. Had to do it though CEO Pyrex and Friends played "passively" in that match and I wanted to compensate for it The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
Starlight Burner ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance 106	Posted - 2015.02.05 09:18:00 - [82] - Quote The reasons why people still don't play are the same reasons as before. When I don't play a match, it's because the other team is stacked and my team is complete sh*t blueberries. I, just like anyone else, do not want to play a game to get farmed in. There's no fun when your team is getting destroyed or when your back hurts so much from carrying the team. That's one of the main reasons people will not play a match. Thank god for CCP Rattati!! Rogue Relics is my home away from home.
xavier zor Rogue Instincts 547	Posted - 2015.02.05 09:20:00 - [83] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Grease Spillett wrote: Remove KD and people will stop that. KDR matchmaking removes KDR. Straight up. worst idea ever EVER edit: Reasons; The playerbase is to small, and the hilarious matches people would be placed in. Full sniper matches where 10+ people are redline snipers Another version of battle academy where everyone's KD is below .3 A game where the KD of everyone is 1, fun fits everywhere A last game where people's KD is 10 and nobody will be the first to push the point in fear of dying looking for PC corporation also looking for lonely heavies to knife >:) heavies looking for me
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 4247	Posted - 2015.02.05 10:35:00 - [84] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Grease Spillett wrote: Remove KD and people will stop that. KDR matchmaking removes KDR. Straight up. worst idea ever EVER edit: Reasons; The playerbase is to small, and the hilarious matches people would be placed in. Full sniper matches where 10+ people are redline snipers Another version of battle academy where everyone's KD is below .3 A game where the KD of everyone is 1, fun fits everywhere A last game where people's KD is 10 and nobody will be the first to push the point in fear of dying Don't see the problem here; the redline snipers would come out, because they're often there cos they get stomped otherwise. The Battle Academy Redux would get these people some much-needed practise. KD of 1 is where everyone would be if matchmaking was good (with a statistical curve, obviously, but it ought to be around 1) and the KD 10 matches... well, we'd soon see who earned that KD. Well, here goes nothing!!!
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 389	Posted - 2015.02.05 18:34:00 - [85] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: hold that wrote: People still talking about proto stompers lmao I bet you play street fighter and say no throwing hadoukens "STREET FIGHTER WOULD STILL BE FUN IF THE OTHER PLAYER HAD 3X MY HEALTH AND ALL HIS ATTACKS DID 20-30% MORE DAMAGE XD" I love how people still insist that running proto gear isnt a huge advantage. It lets me know who the disingenuous assholes or thoughtless morons are without even talking with them at all. It's not the proto though. It wouldn't matter if the good players were in STD. They are squaded up and working together vs a bunch of solo players. Some of these guys that whine about proto were doing it a year ago. Did CCP pause their SP accumulation? They should have proto by now as well as the passive skills to compete. You see it in the kill feed, there are plenty of people that have obviously dropped money on boosters and other AUR stuff. 1. For years it's been more profitable to play passive instead of pushing for a win. 2. Corporate taxes have led many people to forgo corporations for playing passively in pubs. 3. Scout meta for the longest time allowed for people to have great success without needing a squad. 4. People playing passively while others have developed and honed their skills to become better. There are a lot of factors that have led to this solo/passive play that plagues pub matches. Blaming proto is the easy way out. If the PC proto squads were facing squads of players in ADV gear or better matches would be vastly more balanced than they are now. Im not saying proto is at fault or even that prototype gear is a bad thing at all. My post was solely in reply to the implication that people running proto has no effect on the battle or that new players should be expected to just grin and bear it when they are put up against a shitload of proto stompers in a squad. I run prototype gear almost constantly these days, but at the same time Im not one of these people who likes to pretend that proto gear doesnt matter or that new players who only have access to STD gear should even be matched up against players who can use prototype stuff when they hardly know what they are doing and everything is massively tilted against them in the first place.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 6012	Posted - 2015.02.05 18:52:00 - [86] - Quote I understand where you are coming from. Proto is better and proto squads working together can be devastating. My point is that you can't expect a bunch of randoms to compete with that running solo. They can't compete with any group that's working together in a skirmish setting. I want to see development that encourages squad play. That gives incentive for players to join corps, squad up, and work together to become the hunters instead of the hunted. It shouldn't solely be on the individual player to seek out those opportunities. Some people don't even know that's what they want because it hasn't been presented to them. I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.
TaaSr GunZ Dark Republic Academy 0	Posted - 2015.02.06 22:18:00 - [87] - Quote I'm new, but I fight, or more acurately, I'm an active bullet-sponge. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck...
octavian x Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.02.06 22:32:00 - [88] - Quote TaaSr GunZ wrote: I'm new, but I fight, or more acurately, I'm an active bullet-sponge. hoot hoot
Devilish Killzone 0uter.Heaven 10	Posted - 2015.02.06 22:50:00 - [89] - Quote Union118 wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I'm beyond fed up. I'll never understand why droves of people turn on the game, enter matches, but refuse to play. Because noone wants to get stomped. Its all the proto stompers fault. They have no gun game, they all trash players, they all have no respect. Yes, it's my fault for running the best gear that I had to work for in pubs and being able to afford it. I didn't put 2,500,000 skill points into my Caldari or Amarr assault so I could watch the Proto variants collect "DUST" unless there is a PC. If you don't like the fact that people run proto and you keep getting #reKt because of it, maybe you should proto up too. Contributor to the 0uter.Heaven World of tanks program. Quack Roman hates that game. Quack Tear farming indeed. Quack
xavier zor Rogue Instincts 587	Posted - 2015.02.06 22:59:00 - [90] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I understand where you are coming from. Proto is better and proto squads working together can be devastating. My point is that you can't expect a bunch of randoms to compete with that running solo. They can't compete with any group that's working together in a skirmish setting. I want to see development that encourages squad play. That gives incentive for players to join corps, squad up, and work together to become the hunters instead of the hunted. It shouldn't solely be on the individual player to seek out those opportunities. Some people don't even know that's what they want because it hasn't been presented to them. i dis agree. In a skirmish blues may be able to hold a point. i can hold a point on my own for a few minutes before moving onto another looking for PC corporation also looking for lonely heavies to knife >:) heavies looking for me



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