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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
1133
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Posted - 2015.02.04 11:20:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently. ...wow
Seriously. You know what would be more useful to the new player? BETTER payouts in pubs, BETTER salvage and actually valuable content in strongboxes... then they could definitely afford to buy any skillbook they want, WHEN THEY WANT AND NEED IT. If there is, in fact, anyone out there who does struggle to buy those, I guess.
"not all keys are AUR keys" you can use that argument once the key drop rate is adjusted to something resembling reasonable, and most of the missions that award keys don't also require aur. I have gotten 1 key a week on average from missions, not a single one as a loot drop. In contrast to well over 1k strongboxes. With that rate, I am supposed to "care for the new player" when not a single one of the boxes I have opened has contained anything remotely useful to me, and exactly one contained something that may have value if player trading ever happens. What a joke.
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
1133
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Posted - 2015.02.04 11:28:00 -
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Mregomies wrote:I got core skill and shied reg. skillbooks!!!! \o/ Damn! why did I buy those books 2 years ago IKR?! You must feel like a right idiot now
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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castba
Rogue Instincts
741
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Posted - 2015.02.04 12:50:00 -
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Mregomies wrote:I got core skill and shied reg. skillbooks!!!! \o/ Damn! why did I buy those books 2 years ago You should respec just so you can use them
"When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
6947
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Posted - 2015.02.04 13:09:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently.
I honestly believe replacing the skillbooks with ISK equivalent to a skillbook would have roughly the same effect, minus the whingeing.
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Ghosts Chance
New Eden Headhunters
2890
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Posted - 2015.02.04 13:15:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently.
"The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players"
*looks at skillbook*
.... this is automatically known by all freshly created characters.... therefore usefull to nobody
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Lavallois Nash
474
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Posted - 2015.02.04 13:19:00 -
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I got 3x Madrugar Quafe BPC. Its a very nice vehicle. Black hull with green highlights and purple turret. |
Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
344
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Posted - 2015.02.04 13:21:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently.
May I suggest staggering drops to be slightly more relevant to skill level? For example, phase out certain drops the higher the SP of the player, in this case light operation 1
Just an idea, not sure how possible it is to implement
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F54423
Lacuna.
65
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Posted - 2015.02.04 13:21:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently.
The ISK equivalent should drop instead. This is very silly and hurts those who 'pay' for keys as well as those who 'play' for keys.
"They call us GÇ£Kilm'ach.GÇ¥ The Lost. We are the demons of their Scriptures. The Beast made real..."
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LHughes
State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance
304
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Posted - 2015.02.04 13:43:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently.
Why not just replace the skillbooks with Isk? Even then a 1/1000 chance of getting 1 skillbook out of over 100?
Maths allows me to estimate not one ******* new player is buying/using keys in the hope of getting a ******* skillbook.
Keys should be Proto (Aur) and officer weapons. (make them rarer/dearer)
That moment when you walk in on Rattati in the shower but he hasn't undressed yet
He's such a tease xx
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
1102
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Posted - 2015.02.04 13:44:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently. Why are skillbooks not rare salvage given at end of match? Maybe you don't care much for the new player, lol strongboxes should be the good stuff. Even though skillbooks are isk expensive they are much less what people are hoping to get when gambling with strongboxes. End of match if I got an amarr anything skillbook I would be like, lol junk as always. From a strongbox I would be like F&(%ing wasted a F%^#ing key for F@%^ing garbage.
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
1133
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Posted - 2015.02.04 13:52:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently. "The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players" *looks at skillbook* .... this is automatically known by all freshly created characters.... therefore usefull to nobody Oh dear lord, they even drop books for the default skills? I don't even know what to say... How is that even a thing?
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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DIX RFOR CHICKS
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2015.02.04 14:02:00 -
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[ But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently.[/quote]
Great company man policy answer.
OP should be refunded his Aurum for the keys.
How many "new" guys are sinking money into Aurum to purchase keys? They should be purchasing boosters and BPO's.
Not your garbage keys to unlock the trash. |
Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
8374
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Posted - 2015.02.04 14:26:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently.
-Twitches violently- Don't you dare talk about my little marshmallows like they're some card to be played...
Out of curiosity though, is there anyway for you to track how many of those skillbooks are actually being used from the salvage boxes..? Is it beneath 0.001%? I bet it will be.
Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department?
Founder of AIV
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2070
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Posted - 2015.02.04 14:46:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently.
My apologies rattati as I know you're already getting blasted for this, but strong boxes as they are, are utter crap.
This is a poor defense of having strong boxes have random and utterly worthless junk in them. They are seldom worth the items contained inside and if I was getting skill books for basic skills I might not even want inside after paying aur for keys I'd be incredibly angry as a customer.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
1491
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Posted - 2015.02.04 15:12:00 -
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At this point the simplest solution is to halve the cost of keys.
Keep all other mechanics the same, elimate 95% of whining.
New term: Quitter-vet. Someone who hasn't played for a substantial time but thinks they can solve its problems.
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
450
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Posted - 2015.02.04 19:14:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently. Were we supposed to care about the new players now? It's not like they re handicapped or anything, I mean damn skill books aren't even that much.
Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p
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pumping up
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
139
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Posted - 2015.02.04 20:12:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:At this point the simplest solution is to halve the cost of keys.
Keep all other mechanics the same, elimate 95% of whining. They wouldn't be worth it still.... see skillbooks.
IMHO strongboxes should not contain any item available for ISK only.
Help me gain the C-II Dropsuit
Pilot & Saboteur
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Kaze Eyrou
DUST University Ivy League
1904
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Posted - 2015.02.05 00:54:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently. Good because people are wondering what the intentions of CCP when you get 2 strongboxes as loot from opening 1 strongbox.
CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
623
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Posted - 2015.02.05 00:58:00 -
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derbasti87 wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:Clone D wrote:Francois Sanchez wrote:I got a quafe sniper rifle (the only quafe weapon I didn't care about lol) today using the 6 keys I had saved since the update announcement. The other stuff was crappy, but not that crappy lol Is this a CCP plant? Prove that you got a quafe sniper rifle. What color is it? I got a quafe saga BPC And i'll blow it up as soon i see it on the field.
I'm on his side. If we see quafe vehicles = TIME TO KILL THEM!!!
MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
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Big Burns
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
450
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Posted - 2015.02.05 00:58:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently.
Hmmm...we helped pay your way through college, then you go hopping on the new players d*cks. Nice. HO!
I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
623
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Posted - 2015.02.05 00:59:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently.
Omg hahaha Rattati's expression of xD lol
I do agree those skill points should HELP New Players :)
MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
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Big Burns
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
451
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Posted - 2015.02.05 01:11:00 -
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Dude...quit wasting everyone's time rattati. We all know where this game is headed. Just go ahead and turn it into Call of Duty. That's clearly what your trying to do anyway. 1.You've made skill points irrelevant by substantially increasing the weekly cap. 2. You've damaged the isk market by introducing proto BPO's...(yes I know, "but they have standard gear", la di freaking da!) 3. Aurum! Aurum! Aurum! Pay-to-win! 4. Created an entire update that revolves around leveling the playing field.
90% of this update only benefits new players...We have been patiently waiting for the past year and...Jeez. I mean...what the hell was I thinking ever coming back to this game?! C'mon already. And one more thing, it's bout time to take off the training wheels dontcha think? I mean, you've been using the same excuse for the past few years now and everyone has been showing you guys love and sympathy even after you f*cked us at fanfest last year. "Well, take it easy on them Burns, and be patient...they are short staffed and what do you expect? It's free to play". (Just threw up in my mouth when saying that last part). Makes me sick man. Disgusted!
I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
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Big Burns
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
451
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Posted - 2015.02.05 01:37:00 -
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....And another thing...OOoooo I can't believe that mofo had the audacity to show his face on this thread. Talking about, " I guess you don't care about the new players", Mofo! Your the ones who created a freaking PROTO BPO SUIT...A suit that requires winning like a hundred FW matches and costs 10mil isk! And YOU honestly think that some new player is going to be able to acquire that suit without buying aurum you SOB! Somebody hold me back, I'm bout to jump through my computer screen!
Everyone and their momma is talking about these suits. Everyone wants one. You got vets! Entire freaking corps Qsyncing into FW for these things and YOU think these new guys stand a chance?!!! And your going to sit there and say WE don't care about the new guys?!!! By this time next month, everyone will have these suits, everyone with be slaughtering these new guys, wearing their standard gear, without a care in the world because they are unlimited and offer no back-lash or consequences.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
138
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Posted - 2015.02.05 01:41:00 -
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pumping up wrote:I think something went wrong. There are no quafe commando/logo in the market either and so far no one got one of the new faction suits either.
I hope this.isn't working as intended. Rattatti did indicate that the commando suits are coming. |
Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
621
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Posted - 2015.02.05 01:54:00 -
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I did lol hard when I opened a box and got 3 boxes inside. It's like, physics broken. Objects can contain multiple objects of the same size. Dust is using the inside of Kirby's stomach.
Big Burns wrote:....And another thing...OOoooo I can't believe that mofo had the audacity to show his face on this thread. Talking about, " I guess you don't care about the new players", Mofo! Your the ones who created a freaking PROTO BPO SUIT...A suit that requires winning like a hundred FW matches and costs 10mil isk! And YOU honestly think that some new player is going to be able to acquire that suit without buying aurum you SOB! Somebody hold me back, I'm bout to jump through my computer screen!
Everyone and their momma is talking about these suits. Everyone wants one. You got vets! Entire freaking corps Qsyncing into FW for these things and YOU think these new guys stand a chance?!!! And your going to sit there and say WE don't care about the new guys?!!! By this time next month, everyone will have these suits, everyone with be slaughtering these new guys, wearing their standard gear, without a care in the world because they are unlimited and offer no back-lash or consequences.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For the record, I know a guy woh started Dust early Dec 2014 who grinded an Apex suit. Lost battles usually so it was slow going as he is a solo player with like 4 mill SP, but he did do it. Just takes Patience and Time (and invisibility.) |
Raiden246
State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance
8
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Posted - 2015.02.05 02:05:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently.
How much ISK/Skill points do new players really have to spend to unlock a skillbook, versus the time it might take them to get a key?
If helping new players is the idea, making no-squad public matches would help prevent them from being proto stomped into the ground and quitting the game. Just an idea. |
TritusX
PH4NT0M5
220
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Posted - 2015.02.05 03:04:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently. Rattati, I thought you added an update that skills into that for them right away!?
Well then...
Forced Death
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
5997
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Posted - 2015.02.05 03:31:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently. Lmfao
Been a long, long, long time since I've liked a dev post.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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Vash Warren
SMARTCREW Smart Deploy
93
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Posted - 2015.02.05 03:45:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:MEDICO RITARDATO wrote:Meh i just got 2 strongboxes opening 1 box Oh no! TRIBBLES!!!!! I got that too. With my 6 I have used 2 boxes, 51 pagination hackers, Type II defender Caldari, Type II Defender Gallente, 1 day active booster, and one other not useful thing... I want my key back for the 2 boxes I got that is worthless.
Heavy's are the the moving walls of one man that force everything else into retreat. Show some love for Logi Bros.
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PL4SM4 C4NN0N
6
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Posted - 2015.02.05 03:56:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The skillbooks were intended to be useful for new players. I see you don't care much for the new player , also since not all keys are AUR keys. But we are reviewing the contents of the box, currently.
is this comedy or delusion?
The name says it all
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