DUST Search - How can a new player be a warlord?

True Adamance wrote:

Sinboto Simmons wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Sinboto Simmons wrote:

Considering how much power immortals have compared to mortals it's not a stretch to think we could overpower a mortal mercenary group and take thier ship.

Could have also been given by the four races to keep us docile.

But yeah strange

That depends. One person taking on a hundred or so mortals? I doubt even we could kill them all without dying half a dozen times.

I'm pretty sure in various forms CCP have established that mortals are very capable of killing immortal mercenaries. There are a few Chronicles, Templar One, and accounts from Caldari Prime that talk about mortal soldiers racking up incredibly large kill counts against us.

All we have going for us is a slight technological edge, a gun that would kill a normal human to use, and multiple attempts at life.

Hehe I wasn't talking about a group that large, or doing it solo, but you make a good point.

I'd imagine most mortals would be used to seeing us after all this time too,

Mortals would struggle to afford a Viziam ScR even if they worked their entire lives...... they cannot afford a Warbarge if they are small time.

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shaman oga Dead Man's Game 3891	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:05:00 - [1] - Quote I'm certainly the last of elitist, nor i'm the one who wants to deny new players rights or stuff. But still i don't understand how a new player can be a warlord, i know i'm not the only one who think this is weird. Maybe is just the word itself, but this whole new concept, both role wise and lore wise it's weird for me. Swaglords 1.0 [smiley face] Minmatar omni-merc
Ollurd Gallente Cerberus Network. 22	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:07:00 - [2] - Quote If you ask me i think they should've limited the warbarge to corporations and made it so that the warbarge provided bonuses for all of its members. It doesn't make sense for every merc to have a warbarge. Plus not all of us have districts...especially new players. Just call me OG.
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7433	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:09:00 - [3] - Quote Considering how much power immortals have compared to mortals it's not a stretch to think we could overpower a mortal mercenary group and take thier ship. Could have also been given by the four races to keep us docile. But yeah strange Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1723	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:10:00 - [4] - Quote Ollurd Gallente wrote: If you ask me i think they should've limited the warbarge to corporations and made it so that the warbarge provided bonuses for all of its members. It doesn't make sense for every merc to have a warbarge. Not all of us have districts...especially new players. Ha, I'll still have my own. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16854	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:12:00 - [5] - Quote shaman oga wrote: I'm certainly the last of elitist, nor i'm the one who wants to deny new players rights or stuff. But still i don't understand how a new player can be a warlord, i know i'm not the only one who think this is weird. Maybe is just the word itself, but this whole new concept, both role wise and lore wise it's weird for me. It's pointless because when everyone is a warlord no one is. The best thing about the old concept of Dust was that you used to be "just another grubby soldier" fighting in wars bigger than you. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16854	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:15:00 - [6] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Considering how much power immortals have compared to mortals it's not a stretch to think we could overpower a mortal mercenary group and take thier ship. Could have also been given by the four races to keep us docile. But yeah strange That depends. One person taking on a hundred or so mortals? I doubt even we could kill them all without dying half a dozen times. I'm pretty sure in various forms CCP have established that mortals are very capable of killing immortal mercenaries. There are a few Chronicles, Templar One, and accounts from Caldari Prime that talk about mortal soldiers racking up incredibly large kill counts against us. All we have going for us is a slight technological edge, a gun that would kill a normal human to use, and multiple attempts at life. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1723	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:15:00 - [7] - Quote True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: I'm certainly the last of elitist, nor i'm the one who wants to deny new players rights or stuff. But still i don't understand how a new player can be a warlord, i know i'm not the only one who think this is weird. Maybe is just the word itself, but this whole new concept, both role wise and lore wise it's weird for me. It's pointless because when everyone is a warlord no one is. The best thing about the old concept of Dust was that you used to be "just another grubby soldier" fighting in wars bigger than you. But, you still are. Dept there's no politics involved. We need to make the big corps start roleplaying with certain politics, even if every player doesn't. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries 1262	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:19:00 - [8] - Quote I don't view it as individual mercs are Warlords. I'm seeing it as the giant corporation warbarges that can truly wage all out war as they see fit as the real Warlords of this release. Half-Assed Forum Warrior / Half-Decent Commando / Damn Good Logi / Matari Loyalty 7
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7434	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:19:00 - [9] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Considering how much power immortals have compared to mortals it's not a stretch to think we could overpower a mortal mercenary group and take thier ship. Could have also been given by the four races to keep us docile. But yeah strange That depends. One person taking on a hundred or so mortals? I doubt even we could kill them all without dying half a dozen times. I'm pretty sure in various forms CCP have established that mortals are very capable of killing immortal mercenaries. There are a few Chronicles, Templar One, and accounts from Caldari Prime that talk about mortal soldiers racking up incredibly large kill counts against us. All we have going for us is a slight technological edge, a gun that would kill a normal human to use, and multiple attempts at life. Hehe I wasn't talking about a group that large, or doing it solo, but you make a good point. I'd imagine most mortals would be used to seeing us after all this time too, Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16856	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:19:00 - [10] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: True Adamance wrote: shaman oga wrote: I'm certainly the last of elitist, nor i'm the one who wants to deny new players rights or stuff. But still i don't understand how a new player can be a warlord, i know i'm not the only one who think this is weird. Maybe is just the word itself, but this whole new concept, both role wise and lore wise it's weird for me. It's pointless because when everyone is a warlord no one is. The best thing about the old concept of Dust was that you used to be "just another grubby soldier" fighting in wars bigger than you. But, you still are. Dept there's no politics involved. We need to make the big corps start roleplaying with certain politics, even if every player doesn't. AS title means jack **** if everyone possesses it. It's like calling someone Mr or Mrs. "Hi Mr Warlord Lugmos I am Mr Warlord Adamance. These are my friends Mr Warlord Aero Yassavi, Mr Warlord Aisha Ctarl, Mr Warlord Thal Vadam, Mr Warlord Ceej Mantis, Mr Warlord Etc and for forth. May I have the names of every Mr Warlord on your friends list so we can all talk about how awesome and super special it is for us all to be Warlords?" "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."

Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3010	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:19:00 - [11] - Quote I'm still of the opinion that we are not all warlords, that it's mainly just a name and to a lesser extent heralding the dawn of the "warlords" as in PC corp officer functions to come that will be based on the upcoming warbarges. shrugs As for us all owning a warbarge, hardly a stretch considering how many EVE players (as in all of them) own literally an armada of ships. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5744	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:20:00 - [12] - Quote It is something like EVE capsuleers. Even at the outset of logging into the game, you are essentially a near-immortal god compared to the mundane normal people who fly and crew NPC ships. Even with your started ISK self, you're fabulously wealthy, etc. etc. etc. Something like that, probably. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16856	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:21:00 - [13] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: True Adamance wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Considering how much power immortals have compared to mortals it's not a stretch to think we could overpower a mortal mercenary group and take thier ship. Could have also been given by the four races to keep us docile. But yeah strange That depends. One person taking on a hundred or so mortals? I doubt even we could kill them all without dying half a dozen times. I'm pretty sure in various forms CCP have established that mortals are very capable of killing immortal mercenaries. There are a few Chronicles, Templar One, and accounts from Caldari Prime that talk about mortal soldiers racking up incredibly large kill counts against us. All we have going for us is a slight technological edge, a gun that would kill a normal human to use, and multiple attempts at life. Hehe I wasn't talking about a group that large, or doing it solo, but you make a good point. I'd imagine most mortals would be used to seeing us after all this time too, Mortals would struggle to afford a Viziam ScR even if they worked their entire lives...... they cannot afford a Warbarge if they are small time. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
axis alpha Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 518	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:21:00 - [14] - Quote Just because you have a warbarge doesn't mean you are a war lord. What you do with it makes you a warlord. As time progresses I'm guessing they will implement things for tenured players that will but us above newer players...... Hopefully I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1723	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:21:00 - [15] - Quote True Adamance wrote: AS title means jack **** if everyone possesses it. It's like calling someone Mr or Mrs. "Hi Mr Warlord Lugmos I am Mr Warlord Adamance. These are my friends Mr Warlord Aero Yassavi, Mr Warlord Aisha Ctarl, Mr Warlord Thal Vadam, Mr Warlord Ceej Mantis, Mr Warlord Etc and for forth. May I have the names of every Mr Warlord on your friends list so we can all talk about how awesome and super special it is for us all to be Warlords?" I was referring to the grubby soldier part... Sorry for the confusion. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16856	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:22:00 - [16] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: True Adamance wrote: AS title means jack **** if everyone possesses it. It's like calling someone Mr or Mrs. "Hi Mr Warlord Lugmos I am Mr Warlord Adamance. These are my friends Mr Warlord Aero Yassavi, Mr Warlord Aisha Ctarl, Mr Warlord Thal Vadam, Mr Warlord Ceej Mantis, Mr Warlord Etc and for forth. May I have the names of every Mr Warlord on your friends list so we can all talk about how awesome and super special it is for us all to be Warlords?" I was referring to the grubby soldier part... Sorry for the confusion. Oh well I take that back. My apologies. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 3171	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:24:00 - [17] - Quote A few things: 1. It is just a name. We weren't really uprising during Uprising. It was all background lore stuff. 2. We all have our own little barge. That makes us a Warlord amongst the sheep. 3. Who is to say that we are all warlords? Maybe you can head canon it that those that are just joining may have a clunker of a ship akin to The African Queen while the 'real warlords' are those that are massively powerful. 4. Immortal mercenaries are capable of doing things that are far beyond the capability of normal soldiers. While it would be taking it from another game, there really should have been weak sauce AI enemies like Titanfall. Think that level of power. We have using Dropsuits, Equipment, Weapons that would instantly kill any normal person. Hell, Drop Uplinks are a death sentence for anyone that goes through it essentially giving you super cancer that kills you in a few hours. Not a big deal to us but for a normal soldier, they are impossible to use. Even our clones are reinforced to run faster, long, hit harder, and be more durable than anything that could exist naturally. We are all bad asses, even the new player, compared to true grunts. 5. It is just a name. Seriously, you can head canon any of it. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7435	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:32:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: True Adamance wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Considering how much power immortals have compared to mortals it's not a stretch to think we could overpower a mortal mercenary group and take thier ship. Could have also been given by the four races to keep us docile. But yeah strange That depends. One person taking on a hundred or so mortals? I doubt even we could kill them all without dying half a dozen times. I'm pretty sure in various forms CCP have established that mortals are very capable of killing immortal mercenaries. There are a few Chronicles, Templar One, and accounts from Caldari Prime that talk about mortal soldiers racking up incredibly large kill counts against us. All we have going for us is a slight technological edge, a gun that would kill a normal human to use, and multiple attempts at life. Hehe I wasn't talking about a group that large, or doing it solo, but you make a good point. I'd imagine most mortals would be used to seeing us after all this time too, Mortals would struggle to afford a Viziam ScR even if they worked their entire lives...... they cannot afford a Warbarge if they are small time. shrug Hmm, indeed, pardon my lack of thought it's 2 degrees out here and my brain has shutdown higher function. Awake now: I'd imagine we'd either had to have stolen them from the likes of large pirates, such as the cartel, this would require no lack of forces. Perhaps the battles we've been fighting is where they came from as we see ships built in some maps, we fight for or against factions regularly. Like I said they could also be given by the four races if you show loyalty, can't imagine I'd cost them much to supply the hull. All in all it makes little sense in the long run, then again we may just be over thinking it and it was just flavor text. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
BLOOD Ruler Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 1018	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:34:00 - [19] - Quote Think of it like this-You are in a squad or some merc says he has calculated which warbarge is the best to steal.After you guys have successfully pulled off the hiest,you use that Warbarge on another Warbarge. You than pay a group of trust-able mercenaries to temporary pilot the other warbarges and say you will also get them one. You do and before you know it everyone has a warbarge. Don't think of it like you took it solo(which I totally could)think of it like you squad up to steal it and work to steal other warbarges tofether until you all had one. Or it was given to you because you did something great and someone thanked you by letting you have a warbarge. The first one makes sense if your a professional The second one is that you are creating a hero(noob)who had it given to him. Well? Feel The Burning Pain Of My Knives While Your Skull And Mind Is Wrecked By My Pistol.
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5680	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:38:00 - [20] - Quote I figured it was more the immortal clone aspires to be a warlord, rather than is automatically a warlord because he has a rusty ship. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.

bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 1328	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:40:00 - [21] - Quote You must of missed that memo, Anyone can be a warlord if you purchase the right amount of Aurum!!
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7437	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:44:00 - [22] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Think of it like this-You are in a squad or some merc says he has calculated which warbarge is the best to steal.After you guys have successfully pulled off the hiest,you use that Warbarge on another Warbarge. You than pay a group of trust-able mercenaries to temporary pilot the other warbarges and say you will also get them one. You do and before you know it everyone has a warbarge. Don't think of it like you took it solo(which I totally could)think of it like you squad up to steal it and work to steal other warbarges tofether until you all had one. Or it was given to you because you did something great and someone thanked you by letting you have a warbarge. The first one makes sense if your a professional The second one is that you are creating a hero(noob)who had it given to him. Well? Problem being that a ship of that size would be owned by either pirates like blood raiders or empires like Gallente. There wouldn't be any 'quick steal' as it would have around the clock guard (I'd think 100-200 mortal mercs) and even if you could what's stopping them from sicking a cruiser on you? True is right, the more I think about it the more my head starts throbbing. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
BLOOD Ruler Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 1018	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:59:00 - [23] - Quote It is a big unit of trust able mercenaries. Say 50 or more. Feel The Burning Pain Of My Knives While Your Skull And Mind Is Wrecked By My Pistol.
Viktor's Alt Negative-Impact Back and Forth 45	Posted - 2015.01.28 21:17:00 - [24] - Quote >make corp >get members >be warlord or go my way which will most likely not work for you >be ******* >make friends >be warlord NEG1 Pub ))<>(( Back and Forth 4EVA
Bremen van Equis BASTARDS OF BEDLAM 148	Posted - 2015.01.28 21:28:00 - [25] - Quote Warlord?? I thought his name was Greg. So which is it, Fokker? Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1584	Posted - 2015.01.28 22:50:00 - [26] - Quote any grandiose title can be purchased, for the right price.. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7447	Posted - 2015.01.28 22:52:00 - [27] - Quote ? Damn notification button, why is it so close to post... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1584	Posted - 2015.01.28 22:55:00 - [28] - Quote axis alpha wrote: Just because you have a warbarge doesn't mean you are a war lord. What you do with it makes you a warlord. As time progresses I'm guessing they will implement things for tenured players that will but us above newer players...... Hopefully hey bro i payed good inherited money to call myself a warlord i will not set idly by and have you undermine my status with your petty slander here AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 831	Posted - 2015.01.28 23:09:00 - [29] - Quote lol new players Who cares what some sniper has to say
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 502	Posted - 2015.01.29 00:54:00 - [30] - Quote BLOOD Ruler wrote: Think of it like this-You are in a squad or some merc says he has calculated which warbarge is the best to steal.After you guys have successfully pulled off the hiest,you use that Warbarge on another Warbarge. You than pay a group of trust-able mercenaries to temporary pilot the other warbarges and say you will also get them one. You do and before you know it everyone has a warbarge. Don't think of it like you took it solo(which I totally could)think of it like you squad up to steal it and work to steal other warbarges tofether until you all had one. Or it was given to you because you did something great and someone thanked you by letting you have a warbarge. The first one makes sense if your a professional The second one is that you are creating a hero(noob)who had it given to him. Well? Option 3 - You got too drunk to remember how you got it. Drink until you can't drink no more. Then grab another bottle and drink some more! - Demetrious 'Jonny' Buelle.



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