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DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 227	Posted - 2015.01.28 15:41:00 - [1] - Quote Friendship is not enough, nor encrypted strongboxes, nor a warbarge that just boosts a solo player. *Tie the game to EVE or sell it to Dice.* I wanted, from the day CCP said it was possible, to be able to produce the suits and equipment for my Mercs on the battlefield in Eve like I do my ships and modules. I wanted from the day I started playing to be able to sell my salvage for a fair price. The NPC market is worse than backwater market whres who take stuff at 10% value in EVE. I wanted integration not segregation, which we had from the start. I would pay a subscription fee to play as both me and my significant other do (2 accounts each) to play Eve. Hell I have multiple toons training on more than one account now in Eve (roughly $70 cost for myself for one month for my toons). Walking in stations interacting with Dust/Eve players would be a good start. Having a plaza to sit and mingle or play cards or scam people in would be a good move forward. Secondly allow mercs to make and accept contracts, isk and items from both Eve and Dust. A battle is not a contract no matter how you word it.* Allow mercs to relocate via troop transport through Eve to a new location and make Warbarges a Corporate Ship flown by a player. This is what was described to us as the FUTURE of dust when we were asked to try it out in Closed Beta. This is what we expected to come within the next few years. What we have now is more like COD without decent hit detection and equipment costs that are sometimes quite extreme for the 1.5s it takes for the merc to detonate the RE on top of the uplink we spawned at. Please consider that you gave us assurances that things would move in these directions as you stated previously and that you should do what was planned. I realize you have a good deal of work ahead of you to get it to this point, as it seems you have only lightly touched on any of these items but I believe I have been patient, and many others have as well, supporting your continued efforts to make the game better. I am writing this because I don't see any movement towards any Eve ties, nor any indication that anything is happening other than the attempt to increase revenues through the free-to-play model. Ever since I started playing Eve I keep hearing "walking in stations" and that you are working on it but all I see is a Captain's Quarters or a Mercenaries Quarters so I have been waiting close to 7 years for walking in stations. In the construction business if you said we're working on building a plaza for people to put shops up at and walk around and mingle, socializing and having events and then said but for now can you please all just stay in your hotel rooms while we fix all the doors, and then left people in there for this length of time, you would have people jumping out of windows before the end of the first year. I understand things take time to work out and would much rather have the game optimized before walking in stations and realize its a video game, not the construction business, but I am wondering if you just all up and forgot about this stuff. As much as I welcome feedback relating to any of the ideas presented here, I hope that someone from CCP will look at this and provide me with some feedback on my concerns. Thank you for your time and understanding. *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*
Kaeru Nayiri Ready to Play 433	Posted - 2015.01.28 17:14:00 - [2] - Quote +1 on more ties with Eve, please.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4600	Posted - 2015.01.28 17:49:00 - [3] - Quote Not forgotten, but I'd rather fix broken ** before trying to add stuff onto the broken . You know? Edit: Also, hey Kaeru "That little st Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 232	Posted - 2015.01.28 18:14:00 - [4] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Not forgotten, but I'd rather fix broken ** before trying to add stuff onto the broken . You know? Edit: Also, hey Kaeru Understood and I agree, still I see stuff not getting fixed or even a bandaid and more broken "stuff" being added without assessing how it affects the other broken "stuff" Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!**
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15289	Posted - 2015.01.28 18:18:00 - [5] - Quote How will creating an EVE-DUST link improve this game? The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4601	Posted - 2015.01.28 18:19:00 - [6] - Quote DJINN Jecture wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Not forgotten, but I'd rather fix broken ** before trying to add stuff onto the broken . You know? Edit: Also, hey Kaeru Understood and I agree, still I see stuff not getting fixed or even a bandaid and more broken "stuff" being added without assessing how it affects the other broken "stuff" Well there are some things on the roadmap which I think will be important steps towards reaching that ultimate goal. Player Trading leads to a market system and basic craffting leads to actual industry. In the PC redesign we're also getting into details about resource generation, asset production, and transportation. While these things don't accomplish exactly what you're looking for, I think they are basic but neccesary steps in getting to a point where we can actually get the sort of linkage that you're looking for. "That little st Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 232	Posted - 2015.01.28 18:28:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: How will creating an EVE-DUST link improve this game? I am so glad you asked this question. New Eden is an evolving and multi-platform user interaction environment and it allows users all over the globe to communicate and form relationships in very meaningful and lasting ways as evidenced by several marriages of players, friendships and groups formed by the majority of players in the games. It is not just a game to the people playing but a way to socialize and enjoy life. Experiment with alter egos. Plan strategically for a fantastical future that is frankly out of this world. We look at New Eden as a release from the stresses of daily life and generally enjoy playing these games, to vent and have fun. I ask for an expansion on the experience to include all of new eden in the same experience rather than 2 separate sets of experiences and to join them fully rather than just living in the same duplex and calling up through the floorboards so to speak. It would enrich the games, this is a future forward way of thinking. Unleash the power-of-two. *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 232	Posted - 2015.01.28 18:38:00 - [8] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: DJINN Jecture wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Not forgotten, but I'd rather fix broken ** before trying to add stuff onto the broken . You know? Edit: Also, hey Kaeru Understood and I agree, still I see stuff not getting fixed or even a bandaid and more broken "stuff" being added without assessing how it affects the other broken "stuff" Well there are some things on the roadmap which I think will be important steps towards reaching that ultimate goal. Player Trading leads to a market system and basic craffting leads to actual industry. In the PC redesign we're also getting into details about resource generation, asset production, and transportation. While these things don't accomplish exactly what you're looking for, I think they are basic but neccesary steps in getting to a point where we can actually get the sort of linkage that you're looking for. These are not the same as joining the two games. There has been plenty of talk about important steps. There has been none about crafting. There have been no discussions (CCP involved with players that I have seen) about mining etc, and frankly an Eve pilot could produce mats and assets much quicker and deliver them to players easier than Dust players ever could trapped in one station their entire Merc career. I am glad you point out some of the items that my feedback has gotten hits on in the forums but CCP has been reluctant at best to address the majority of these points in the past, I am fishing for a response from Devs, CPM and possibly Hilmar himself, although I am unsure they want to communicate with me. At this point in time the market steps are still looking like too little too late in the day to retain the vast majority of the early on player base we had. Things need to change. Plain and simple. Some things are which is positive, but I see this as more of a distraction from the goal right now than actual movement towards the proposed Legion. Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!**
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4601	Posted - 2015.01.28 18:46:00 - [9] - Quote Well I hate to break it to you but when we interviewed Ratatti himself on Biomassed, he flat out said there are currently no plans for further EVE linkage at this time, and that his is 100% focused on improving Dust's gameplay and fixing the countless broken systems in the game before he intends to spend any time on the EVE link. I'm not saying it will never happen, but I wouldn't expect it anything soon. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 232	Posted - 2015.01.28 18:54:00 - [10] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Well I hate to break it to you but when we interviewed Ratatti himself on Biomassed, he flat out said there are currently no plans for further EVE linkage at this time, and that his is 100% focused on improving Dust's gameplay and fixing the countless broken systems in the game before he intends to spend any time on the EVE link. I'm not saying it will never happen, but I wouldn't expect it anything soon. Something tells me that if I said the sky was blue I would get a no its pink outside my house right now out of you sir. Thank you for letting me know but I knew already there are no plans to further the linkage because Dust is a PS3 exclusive, hence why it will be rebranded when Legion hits. This was presented as feedback not to ask for a when. I fully expect another year to pass with Dust well going to dust. The majority of my corp seems to be enjoying the PS4 much more than their PS3s and its not just my corp that has this issue alone. There needs to be a reason to make Eve players care about this game or it will never gain traction on the Computer when the transition happens. *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*

Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4602	Posted - 2015.01.28 19:00:00 - [11] - Quote DJINN Jecture wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Well I hate to break it to you but when we interviewed Ratatti himself on Biomassed, he flat out said there are currently no plans for further EVE linkage at this time, and that his is 100% focused on improving Dust's gameplay and fixing the countless broken systems in the game before he intends to spend any time on the EVE link. I'm not saying it will never happen, but I wouldn't expect it anything soon. Something tells me that if I said the sky was blue I would get a no its pink outside my house right now out of you sir. Thank you for letting me know but I knew already there are no plans to further the linkage because Dust is a PS3 exclusive, hence why it will be rebranded when Legion hits. This was presented as feedback not to ask for a when. I fully expect another year to pass with Dust well going to dust. The majority of my corp seems to be enjoying the PS4 much more than their PS3s and its not just my corp that has this issue alone. There needs to be a reason to make Eve players care about this game or it will never gain traction on the Computer when the transition happens. Not really sure how you got that impression, I was just trying to be informative with the information I had. Not trying to be negative or argumentative. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 233	Posted - 2015.01.28 19:14:00 - [12] - Quote My views on this subject have been made known more than once in regards to the reason the player base has suffered a significant amount of attrition, I struggle myself to find reasons to log in when I look at the number of people online from my eve client and from my dust client at the same time, many times I opt for the larger player base, more interaction and options. I want to share those opportunities with my friends on Dust, sadly this is still not possible. Hopefully you understand that my previous comment about the sky being pink (a comment about relative natures being different from different perspectives) didn't give you the idea that I was thinking you argumentative. I was merely expressing that at that time there were no plans but obviously there are many things to fix even as Ratatti has said. I fully expect that they can only plan so far in advance. Maybe tomorrow he will draft a plan to integrate more of Eve into Dust and vice versa. *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5740	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:09:00 - [13] - Quote I share your desire for more EVE/DUST integration. Feel free to let your favorite CSM rep (or candidate, elections are coming soon) know that you want to see it. A large number of EVE players have shown very little support for DUST integration or Walking in Stations and I think have probably made it clear to CCP they don't want a lot of resources spent on it. That vision of a combined universe is the one that got me so excited about both EVE and DUST in the first place. But unfortunately, without the support of the EVE community, I imagine what you ask is a very long way away. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5740	Posted - 2015.01.28 20:14:00 - [14] - Quote Aside from that, there's actually a few directions I can see building off of the warbarge system and the PC revamp that might someday be good hooks for EVE to tie to. But you have to start at the basics. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 233	Posted - 2015.01.28 21:04:00 - [15] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I share your desire for more EVE/DUST integration. Feel free to let your favorite CSM rep (or candidate, elections are coming soon) know that you want to see it. A large number of EVE players have shown very little support for DUST integration or Walking in Stations and I think have probably made it clear to CCP they don't want a lot of resources spent on it. That vision of a combined universe is the one that got me so excited about both EVE and DUST in the first place. But unfortunately, without the support of the EVE community, I imagine what you ask is a very long way away. Well as far as that goes I understand this but still feel it is the right direction to head. I've seen it on the Eve forums and it make me die a little more inside. They complain that its all console kiddies playing Dust on their mommy's credit card but in all reality the majority are not. In fact it was Eve players who Beta'd the game, not the general public. The amount of support for it at the beginning from those players (all eve players throughout) when we were told One Universe//One War was tremendous and at that time we had over 7k players peaking at 9-10k during Open Beta. That was prime time for the things mentioned above, and all or at best most of those items were completely ignored, leaving a tremendous down slope of emotion about the whole game overall. Pick up the pieces and fix it, don't just mangle it beyond what can be salvaged now please. *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5747	Posted - 2015.01.28 21:05:00 - [16] - Quote Now convince EVE players of that. :) This thread is called "preaching to the choir". :D CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 233	Posted - 2015.01.28 21:07:00 - [17] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Aside from that, there's actually a few directions I can see building off of the warbarge system and the PC revamp that might someday be good hooks for EVE to tie to. But you have to start at the basics. As for the warbarges, providing damage boosts to individuals is pretty broken (if I understand correctly) and seems to me like it will ruin NPE, OPE, and the game in general for those not able to acquire them through any means. The majority of what I have mentioned above also has nothing to do with warbarges. *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 233	Posted - 2015.01.28 21:08:00 - [18] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Now convince EVE players of that. :) This thread is called "preaching to the choir". :D I have tried before, likely will again but tbh I believe it is a job for mass marketing (By CCP) not forum warriors. *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 234	Posted - 2015.01.28 21:11:00 - [19] - Quote DJINN Jecture wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Aside from that, there's actually a few directions I can see building off of the warbarge system and the PC revamp that might someday be good hooks for EVE to tie to. But you have to start at the basics. As for the warbarges, providing damage boosts to individuals is pretty broken (if I understand correctly) and seems to me like it will ruin NPE, OPE, and the game in general for those not able to acquire them through any means. The majority of what I have mentioned above also has nothing to do with warbarges. What I mean by "by any means" is they don't have the isk/sp/cash to acquire them, for instance I can expect to maybe come up with 10mil isk in my wallet by this time next year maybe if I run constant pubs in bpc suits or just logi bro my way to the top of the list every match in nothing but my underwear and a proto rep tool. *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*
Lavallois Nash 467	Posted - 2015.01.28 21:25:00 - [20] - Quote I gotta say, that would be really cool, walking around a space station commercial hub. Youd have the EVE toons looking all dignified and then us in our shiny, gladiator suits. Only problem I see with that concept is that we make alot less ISK and are in the market for alot less things. So the section of the mall with offers/benefits/opportunities/scams/ect that Dust players could take advantage of will be smaller. im just saying, Dust players are probably going to hang around the Quafe vending machines all day waiting for a fight to happen.

DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 234	Posted - 2015.01.28 21:30:00 - [21] - Quote Lavallois Nash wrote: I gotta say, that would be really cool, walking around a space station commercial hub. Youd have the EVE toons looking all dignified and then us in our shiny, gladiator suits. Only problem I see with that concept is that we make alot less ISK and are in the market for alot less things. So the section of the mall with offers/benefits/opportunities/scams/ect that Dust players could take advantage of will be smaller. im just saying, Dust players are probably going to hang around the Quafe vending machines all day waiting for a fight to happen. Well if we were able to trade items isk and contracts that could change very rapidly, and besides, whats wrong with hanging around the Quafe machine waiting for someone to shank someone else? We do it in eve all the time and I have been known to do it on the battlefield in the past also. This would just be a different venue. *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4611	Posted - 2015.01.28 21:38:00 - [22] - Quote DJINN Jecture wrote: Lavallois Nash wrote: I gotta say, that would be really cool, walking around a space station commercial hub. Youd have the EVE toons looking all dignified and then us in our shiny, gladiator suits. Only problem I see with that concept is that we make alot less ISK and are in the market for alot less things. So the section of the mall with offers/benefits/opportunities/scams/ect that Dust players could take advantage of will be smaller. im just saying, Dust players are probably going to hang around the Quafe vending machines all day waiting for a fight to happen. Well if we were able to trade items isk and contracts that could change very rapidly, and besides, whats wrong with hanging around the Quafe machine waiting for someone to shank someone else? We do it in eve all the time and I have been known to do it on the battlefield in the past also. This would just be a different venue. You know the really amusing part was when I was at EVE Vegas in 2013. There was a clear and distinct difference between the people who played Dust, and the people who played EVE. The EVE guys kind of shuffled around, laughing and joking about the game and other various things. The Dust players on the other hand were like "MORE SHOTS!" screaming and dancing around maniacs. It was....exactly as I expected and hoped it would be. Good times. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast www.biomassed.net
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 2368	Posted - 2015.01.28 21:43:00 - [23] - Quote The Warbarges concept is modular and other things can be hooked onto it later. But returning to your OP... Soraya is correct in this being preaching to the choir, can I get an amen?!!! A substantive Eve link, involving industry, harvesting, manufacture, walking in stations, social hubs, all the stuff we've heard and wanted will, by necessity, have to come from the Eve side development cycle and they've only just added the option for a corp to have a properly written auto rejection letter in the Tiamut expansion. Also, the walk in stations project leading up to Incarna's release was all part of CCP's vision for social interaction between different aspects of the New Eden experience. When Incarna failed so spectacularly, igniting the riots and bringing to a head the long seated suspicions of the Eve Community that CCP weren't doing spaceships anymore, that vision took one hell of a battering. The Eve community have made it very clear and continue to do so, that they'll only support Eve Dev that promotes Eve itself. Indeed, there is a growing desire amongst them on the forums for removing Dust items from the marketplace because they can't do anything with it or care about a game that most of them think has been cancelled anyway. We'd all like that link we'd heard so much about but right now, my own personal gut feeling is that it'll be a long time in coming without the support of the Eve community. That is where your efforts would be better placed. For myself, I've come to terms with pretty much dismissing anything that was said to be coming to Dust up to and including the 2013 Fanfest. (Who here still thinks we're getting MTAC's after all). That way I can appreciate the little gems that Rattati and his team can claw from the data mines of Dusts client. CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 234	Posted - 2015.01.28 22:09:00 - [24] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: The Eve community have made it very clear and continue to do so, that they'll only support Eve Dev that promotes Eve itself. Indeed, there is a growing desire amongst them on the forums for removing Dust items from the marketplace because they can't do anything with it or care about a game that most of them think has been cancelled anyway. My point exactly sir, because they can't do anything with it, Dust has become a liability, stealing dev dollars away from the Eve dev teams which are doing an excellent job and seem to be working towards improving structure mechanics which up until recently has been put on the back burner and has been needed for many years. CCP needs to step up and say hey, we know you guys may not like this right away but guess what we are doing this very next build...I remember the riots, very much unprecedented and uncalled for but this is new eden not the us congress. Yes people playing the game matter, but the initial vision was sound and a great idea, it was marvellous thinking that one day we might interact inside a marketplace of some sort with out having 10 tonnes of armor around a person. I know, go out and get some fresh air with the people who live next door right? My nearest neighbor is a 15-20 minute drive away. Its a commute to work and this is where I go to enjoy myself. Eve Lounge on the Eve Home was great in the implementation, put it into game. Better yet force feed it with constructive adds to the Eve market by saying, want some slaves to rid your planets of Drone infestations? Hire your mercs today for cleansing missions so your precious PI stays operational. This has been said before, give Eve players a reason to care what happens in dust and they will. Better yet, sell Dust as a new market, give payouts that compare to Eve mission payouts and make mercs wealthy instead of making the economies so disparate that 200mil in dust is worth a Plex in Eve or more. Then when Eve players manufacture for their new market it is worth making the items for the Dust players. *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 234	Posted - 2015.01.28 22:15:00 - [25] - Quote Amen@ Kevin *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 234	Posted - 2015.01.28 22:49:00 - [26] - Quote For all of you with Eve characters in the DustBin please go show your support for integration rather than segregation on the forums here To CCP, the CSM, the CPM and my beloved friends in game *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*
ZDub 303 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 3353	Posted - 2015.01.28 22:49:00 - [27] - Quote More EVE connection coming SoonGäó with EVE: Legion. Alternatively, Legion is dead in the water. In that, I would still say no to connections until you get this game off the PS3.
Draco Cerberus BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 919	Posted - 2015.01.28 22:55:00 - [28] - Quote Had thought maybe its time to ask for an ETA on Legion? Can we have an ETA on Legion please, don't want to buy a computer till I know what I need to run this
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 1251	Posted - 2015.01.29 00:55:00 - [29] - Quote Or just give me some PVE and I would be happy! Tanks - Balancing Turrets
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 234	Posted - 2015.01.29 01:03:00 - [30] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: Or just give me some PVE and I would be happy! If you have an Eve pilot how about lending some support on the Eve Forums, it would help. *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*

DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 240	Posted - 2015.01.30 01:42:00 - [31] - Quote Updated link to the push for more eve interaction. If you have ideas about things we could do in eve and are an eve pilot please post them up there Merging 3 games into 1 *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1972	Posted - 2015.01.30 12:52:00 - [32] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I share your desire for more EVE/DUST integration. Feel free to let your favorite CSM rep (or candidate, elections are coming soon) know that you want to see it. A large number of EVE players have shown very little support for DUST integration or Walking in Stations and I think have probably made it clear to CCP they don't want a lot of resources spent on it. That vision of a combined universe is the one that got me so excited about both EVE and DUST in the first place. But unfortunately, without the support of the EVE community, I imagine what you ask is a very long way away. Saying it does not exist because of no Eve interest is pretty backwards. Eve players have no interest in Dust because unless they feel like going out and buying a PS3 there is nothing for them to show interest in. Blaming the Eve community for a lack of links between the games is an absolute cop out. Guess what CCP, if you nut up and create links you would probably see more Dust players move into Eve and give you additional revenue. Myself and 5 other people have done exactly this just from the little link in FW. How many more do you think would do this if there was a meaningful link? In my opinion the REAL reason for no links is the fact that CCP is scared to disrupt anything in Eve. This is totally understandable but at the same time they could at least make an effort to follow through on this in a small way while limiting the impact on Eve.
Breakin Stuff Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 6857	Posted - 2015.01.30 14:34:00 - [33] - Quote DJINN Jecture wrote: DJINN Jecture wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Aside from that, there's actually a few directions I can see building off of the warbarge system and the PC revamp that might someday be good hooks for EVE to tie to. But you have to start at the basics. As for the warbarges, providing damage boosts to individuals is pretty broken (if I understand correctly) and seems to me like it will ruin NPE, OPE, and the game in general for those not able to acquire them through any means. The majority of what I have mentioned above also has nothing to do with warbarges. What I mean by "by any means" is they don't have the isk/sp/cash to acquire them, for instance I can expect to maybe come up with 10mil isk in my wallet by this time next year maybe if I run constant pubs in bpc suits or just logi bro my way to the top of the list every match in nothing but my underwear and a proto rep tool. Your warbarge automatically generates the components it needs to upgrade itself It is neither ISK nor SP. It is a time sink. AV
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 244	Posted - 2015.01.30 15:02:00 - [34] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: DJINN Jecture wrote: DJINN Jecture wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Aside from that, there's actually a few directions I can see building off of the warbarge system and the PC revamp that might someday be good hooks for EVE to tie to. But you have to start at the basics. As for the warbarges, providing damage boosts to individuals is pretty broken (if I understand correctly) and seems to me like it will ruin NPE, OPE, and the game in general for those not able to acquire them through any means. The majority of what I have mentioned above also has nothing to do with warbarges. What I mean by "by any means" is they don't have the isk/sp/cash to acquire them, for instance I can expect to maybe come up with 10mil isk in my wallet by this time next year maybe if I run constant pubs in bpc suits or just logi bro my way to the top of the list every match in nothing but my underwear and a proto rep tool. Your warbarge automatically generates the components it needs to upgrade itself It is neither ISK nor SP. It is a time sink. Yeah I took the time and checked my emails for the newsletters, I guess its meant to retain members, but this doesn't provide eve integration unless I can pilot my warbarge to my matches? *Promoting Teamwork, Join a Squad Today!*


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