DUST Search - Only reasonable option for strongboxes.

Bethhy wrote:

Big Burns wrote:

Bethhy wrote:

Regis Blackbird wrote:

Big Burns wrote:

You win a match, you get 1 strongbox key. Simple as that.
It will provide motivation/incentive.
People have no way of abusing this, as the most anyone could get in a day would be like,....idk, 30.
If CCP added more valuable things such as officer weapons and 7 day boosters into the mix, it would be fabulous.

There really isn't any reason not to do this, and it would help balance the, "Aurum/pay-to-win" vs. "The grinder" dispute.

I rather reduce the strongbox drop rate by a factor 10, and keep the keys untouched.
The new stuff they adding in Warlord 1.0 increases the value of strong boxes, but you should not have to spend a fortune every week if you want to open them all (not that I do).

Ohh, and sell them... Yes, my new Warbarge will clutter up otherwise, with no space for tanks and stuff Blink

Nooooo....

Give us an Empty room that we can enter from our mercenary quarters...

Then in this empty room we can stack strongboxes and make a fort Minecraft stylez... Then invite all our friends to behold our castle made out of strongboxes! Bear

Thanks for lightening the mood, but went crazy there for a second. lol.

Admit it... If you where 100 boxes short of finishing your castles Clock tower... You would be out grinding strongboxes rather then complaining about how many you have Blink

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Big Burns Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 398	Posted - 2015.01.27 19:49:00 - [1] - Quote You win a match, you get 1 strongbox key. Simple as that. It will provide motivation/incentive. People have no way of abusing this, as the most anyone could get in a day would be like,....idk, 30. If CCP added more valuable things such as officer weapons and 7 day boosters into the mix, it would be fabulous. There really isn't any reason not to do this, and it would help balance the, "Aurum/pay-to-win" vs. "The grinder" dispute. I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 581	Posted - 2015.01.27 20:00:00 - [2] - Quote Big Burns wrote: You win a match, you get 1 strongbox key. Simple as that. It will provide motivation/incentive. People have no way of abusing this, as the most anyone could get in a day would be like,....idk, 30. If CCP added more valuable things such as officer weapons and 7 day boosters into the mix, it would be fabulous. There really isn't any reason not to do this, and it would help balance the, "Aurum/pay-to-win" vs. "The grinder" dispute. I rather reduce the strongbox drop rate by a factor 10, and keep the keys untouched. The new stuff they adding in Warlord 1.0 increases the value of strong boxes, but you should not have to spend a fortune every week if you want to open them all (not that I do). Ohh, and sell them... Yes, my new Warbarge will clutter up otherwise, with no space for tanks and stuff
Big Burns Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 405	Posted - 2015.01.27 20:25:00 - [3] - Quote These two factors have been going at it for years now. -The Grinder: A player who spends a lot of time playing Dust, and therefore acquires more materials/SP/stats in general. -Mr. Pay-to-win: Usually a player who doesn't have as much time to play Dust, and therefore buys aurum to close the gap. Strongboxes could be the distributing factor or solution to this imbalance. By putting the best of both worlds into these strongboxes. I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
B1G Boss B0SS initiative 36	Posted - 2015.01.27 20:52:00 - [4] - Quote Quafe bpos gonna be in strong boxes Snake. Snake? SNAAAAAKE!!!
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 1450	Posted - 2015.01.27 21:45:00 - [5] - Quote On today's episode of Terrible Forum Ideas, we have... Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Big Burns Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 405	Posted - 2015.01.27 21:54:00 - [6] - Quote You know what, F-it! Let's just all play in the sand with no structure or incentive. Just erase the stats and let's all hold each others dcks and run around complimenting one another on running over people with LAV's. Nah, just listen to the guys who haven't helped support this game, 12 year old minecraft players, who hop on the forums and tell CCP to make this game the ultimate sand box with no incentive or direction. Just keep giving them more toys and no reason to shoot them other than to see the pretty lights flash before their brain-dead eyes ,with drool coming out of their mouths. Totally bro, Fcking totally! I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 3254	Posted - 2015.01.27 21:59:00 - [7] - Quote Regis Blackbird wrote: Big Burns wrote: You win a match, you get 1 strongbox key. Simple as that. It will provide motivation/incentive. People have no way of abusing this, as the most anyone could get in a day would be like,....idk, 30. If CCP added more valuable things such as officer weapons and 7 day boosters into the mix, it would be fabulous. There really isn't any reason not to do this, and it would help balance the, "Aurum/pay-to-win" vs. "The grinder" dispute. I rather reduce the strongbox drop rate by a factor 10, and keep the keys untouched. The new stuff they adding in Warlord 1.0 increases the value of strong boxes, but you should not have to spend a fortune every week if you want to open them all (not that I do). Ohh, and sell them... Yes, my new Warbarge will clutter up otherwise, with no space for tanks and stuff Nooooo.... Give us an Empty room that we can enter from our mercenary quarters... Then in this empty room we can stack strongboxes and make a fort Minecraft stylez... Then invite all our friends to behold our castle made out of strongboxes!
Jack Boost Zarena Family 600	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:00:00 - [8] - Quote Just salvage it for nanites or 1000 isk https://trello.com/c/hm0ujBtu Not much time left...
Big Burns Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 407	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:00:00 - [9] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: Big Burns wrote: You win a match, you get 1 strongbox key. Simple as that. It will provide motivation/incentive. People have no way of abusing this, as the most anyone could get in a day would be like,....idk, 30. If CCP added more valuable things such as officer weapons and 7 day boosters into the mix, it would be fabulous. There really isn't any reason not to do this, and it would help balance the, "Aurum/pay-to-win" vs. "The grinder" dispute. I rather reduce the strongbox drop rate by a factor 10, and keep the keys untouched. The new stuff they adding in Warlord 1.0 increases the value of strong boxes, but you should not have to spend a fortune every week if you want to open them all (not that I do). Ohh, and sell them... Yes, my new Warbarge will clutter up otherwise, with no space for tanks and stuff Nooooo.... Give us an Empty room that we can enter from our mercenary quarters... Then in this empty room we can stack strongboxes and make a fort Minecraft stylez... Then invite all our friends to behold our castle made out of strongboxes! Thanks for lightening the mood, but went crazy there for a second. lol. I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 3254	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:03:00 - [10] - Quote Big Burns wrote: Bethhy wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: Big Burns wrote: You win a match, you get 1 strongbox key. Simple as that. It will provide motivation/incentive. People have no way of abusing this, as the most anyone could get in a day would be like,....idk, 30. If CCP added more valuable things such as officer weapons and 7 day boosters into the mix, it would be fabulous. There really isn't any reason not to do this, and it would help balance the, "Aurum/pay-to-win" vs. "The grinder" dispute. I rather reduce the strongbox drop rate by a factor 10, and keep the keys untouched. The new stuff they adding in Warlord 1.0 increases the value of strong boxes, but you should not have to spend a fortune every week if you want to open them all (not that I do). Ohh, and sell them... Yes, my new Warbarge will clutter up otherwise, with no space for tanks and stuff Nooooo.... Give us an Empty room that we can enter from our mercenary quarters... Then in this empty room we can stack strongboxes and make a fort Minecraft stylez... Then invite all our friends to behold our castle made out of strongboxes! Thanks for lightening the mood, but went crazy there for a second. lol. Admit it... If you where 100 boxes short of finishing your castles Clock tower... You would be out grinding strongboxes rather then complaining about how many you have

Big Burns Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 407	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:06:00 - [11] - Quote CCP should post 2 options on the forums, "Do you guys want this, or this" Those who bought aurum to keep the lights on, get to vote, yes or no. Simple as that. I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
Big Burns Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 407	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:07:00 - [12] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Big Burns wrote: Bethhy wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: Big Burns wrote: You win a match, you get 1 strongbox key. Simple as that. It will provide motivation/incentive. People have no way of abusing this, as the most anyone could get in a day would be like,....idk, 30. If CCP added more valuable things such as officer weapons and 7 day boosters into the mix, it would be fabulous. There really isn't any reason not to do this, and it would help balance the, "Aurum/pay-to-win" vs. "The grinder" dispute. I rather reduce the strongbox drop rate by a factor 10, and keep the keys untouched. The new stuff they adding in Warlord 1.0 increases the value of strong boxes, but you should not have to spend a fortune every week if you want to open them all (not that I do). Ohh, and sell them... Yes, my new Warbarge will clutter up otherwise, with no space for tanks and stuff Nooooo.... Give us an Empty room that we can enter from our mercenary quarters... Then in this empty room we can stack strongboxes and make a fort Minecraft stylez... Then invite all our friends to behold our castle made out of strongboxes! Thanks for lightening the mood, but went crazy there for a second. lol. Admit it... If you where 100 boxes short of finishing your castles Clock tower... You would be out grinding strongboxes rather then complaining about how many you have It has nothing to do with strongboxes, just incentive. Something that will get people playing the game. I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 675	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:15:00 - [13] - Quote Step 1 - let people sell the boxes for 5k isk each. Wait for everyone to sell their stash... Step 2 - make box drops rare as hell to make everyone regret their hatred of the strongboxes!
Big Burns Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 409	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:17:00 - [14] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Step 1 - let people sell the boxes for 5k isk each. Wait for everyone to sell their stash... Step 2 - make box drops rare as hell to make everyone regret their hatred of the strongboxes! SO you mean what they did to officer weapons? Haven't gotten one in weeks. I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1709	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:18:00 - [15] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Step 1 - let people sell the boxes for 5k isk each. Wait for everyone to sell their stash... Step 2 - make box drops rare as hell to make everyone regret their hatred of the strongboxes! That would be evil! Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 3256	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:19:00 - [16] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Step 1 - let people sell the boxes for 5k isk each. Wait for everyone to sell their stash... Step 2 - make box drops rare as hell to make everyone regret their hatred of the strongboxes! Thats some Edward Bernays stuff right there... "THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized." http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 675	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:21:00 - [17] - Quote Big Burns wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Step 1 - let people sell the boxes for 5k isk each. Wait for everyone to sell their stash... Step 2 - make box drops rare as hell to make everyone regret their hatred of the strongboxes! SO you mean what they did to officer weapons? Haven't gotten one in weeks. Now that you mention it... I've only had one drop of 3 'pansy redzone sniper rifles' since I started playing again O.o
Foley Jones Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate 885	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:29:00 - [18] - Quote If you ask me, the only responsible option for strongboxes is to nuke the damn things from orbit Its the only way to be sure.... EVE online trial
Big Burns Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 410	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:30:00 - [19] - Quote Foley Jones wrote: If you ask me, the only responsible option for strongboxes is to nuke the damn things from orbit Its the only way to be sure.... haha. I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
Big Burns Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 410	Posted - 2015.01.27 22:33:00 - [20] - Quote Guys, screw this noise. Everyone check out the beef going on in "The Roman experience". I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.


CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 15876	Posted - 2015.01.28 01:17:00 - [21] - Quote Big Burns wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Step 1 - let people sell the boxes for 5k isk each. Wait for everyone to sell their stash... Step 2 - make box drops rare as hell to make everyone regret their hatred of the strongboxes! SO you mean what they did to officer weapons? Haven't gotten one in weeks. I got Cala's, Gastun's and Thale's in three matches yesterday. Just sain'. However, that may have reduced my cosmic chances of ever winning a high stakes lottery... "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 4464	Posted - 2015.01.28 01:20:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Big Burns wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Step 1 - let people sell the boxes for 5k isk each. Wait for everyone to sell their stash... Step 2 - make box drops rare as hell to make everyone regret their hatred of the strongboxes! SO you mean what they did to officer weapons? Haven't gotten one in weeks. I got Cala's, Gastun's and Thale's in three matches yesterday. Just sain'. However, that may have reduced my cosmic chances of ever winning a high stakes lottery... Hey I got some the other day too! =ƒÿä Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Sequal's Back Intara Direct Action Caldari State 205	Posted - 2015.01.28 01:24:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Big Burns wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Step 1 - let people sell the boxes for 5k isk each. Wait for everyone to sell their stash... Step 2 - make box drops rare as hell to make everyone regret their hatred of the strongboxes! SO you mean what they did to officer weapons? Haven't gotten one in weeks. I got Cala's, Gastun's and Thale's in three matches yesterday. Just sain'. However, that may have reduced my cosmic chances of ever winning a high stakes lottery... I've been playing quite a lot in the past week and I didn't earn A SINGLE officer weapon. . Just sain'. Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1278	Posted - 2015.01.28 02:25:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I got Cala's, Gastun's and Thale's in three matches yesterday. Just sain'. Dev hacks confirmed Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Big Burns Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 424	Posted - 2015.01.28 06:24:00 - [25] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Big Burns wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Step 1 - let people sell the boxes for 5k isk each. Wait for everyone to sell their stash... Step 2 - make box drops rare as hell to make everyone regret their hatred of the strongboxes! SO you mean what they did to officer weapons? Haven't gotten one in weeks. I got Cala's, Gastun's and Thale's in three matches yesterday. Just sain'. However, that may have reduced my cosmic chances of ever winning a high stakes lottery... Just answer one question for me. I'm rubbing the lamp here, but not wanting three wishes, only one answer. Why do you hold us back? You know what I'm talking about. I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1744	Posted - 2015.01.28 06:28:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Big Burns wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Step 1 - let people sell the boxes for 5k isk each. Wait for everyone to sell their stash... Step 2 - make box drops rare as hell to make everyone regret their hatred of the strongboxes! SO you mean what they did to officer weapons? Haven't gotten one in weeks. I got Cala's, Gastun's and Thale's in three matches yesterday. Just sain'. However, that may have reduced my cosmic chances of ever winning a high stakes lottery... You call the shots. I'd pull officer gear every match then brag on the forums too Crush them
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 596	Posted - 2015.01.28 06:57:00 - [27] - Quote Why the hell is everyone instantly dismissing OP's idea outright? It's true that strong boxes are broken. You get so many of them that their existence as actual items is basically pointless and you have no way of getting keys reliably outside of Aurum. The side effect here is that having a count of strong boxes should be an incentive. It should give you the urge that you just want to open that damn last box, but you haven't got any keys left, so you pay Aurum. In the current system, keys are so rare that no one will trust the strong boxes, because they can't ever attempt to open them in the first place. Getting a key per day or something actually sounds like a good idea in that regard. Alternatively, scratch strong boxes as actual items and make keys the only thing necessary for random stuff. The end result would be that people would get a key in salvage or in a daily mission once in a blue moon, and actually feel lucky. It would also lead to people with too much money spending tons of cash on the item lottery, but does that matter? The probability of getting an item that you don't want is very high, after all.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1745	Posted - 2015.01.28 07:01:00 - [28] - Quote How about the tons of bullshit that we get. You can seriously pull ten keys worth of basic gear. Done spending a dime on keys Crush them
P14GU3 Savage Bullet 1166	Posted - 2015.01.28 09:20:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Big Burns wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Step 1 - let people sell the boxes for 5k isk each. Wait for everyone to sell their stash... Step 2 - make box drops rare as hell to make everyone regret their hatred of the strongboxes! SO you mean what they did to officer weapons? Haven't gotten one in weeks. I got Cala's, Gastun's and Thale's in three matches yesterday. Just sain'. However, that may have reduced my cosmic chances of ever winning a high stakes lottery... I've opened 8 boxes, nothing but basic gear. Holding onto the few keys I have until after warlords patch. I still have close to 1200 boxes. A key for winning a match would be a good incentive to win a match. You guys should just implement that along with warlords.. Edit: basic gear should not be a reward from boxes at the very least. You dont have mlt gear, yet basic is hardly much, if any, better. With adv gear, newps have a nice stash when then get there, and even vets can use it as cheaper gear. It is just a horrible feeling getting basic gear, time after time, when keys are so rare. 'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 15942	Posted - 2015.01.28 09:50:00 - [30] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=188901&find=unread "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"




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