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        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 436
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.26 23:45:00 -
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 Those of us that are specced into vehicles.I'd like to take my 16 mil out of ADS and put it into tanks or the logi ds. So bored of ADS.
  
 Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p | 
      
      
        |  LUGMOS
 Quafe Premium
 
 1690
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.26 23:46:00 -
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 Inb4...
 
 No.
 
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        |  Vicious Minotaur
 
 1879
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.26 23:48:00 -
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 You'll probably have to buy one to do that.
 
 CCP has no reason to give out something that now currently costs cash.
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 16824
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.26 23:48:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Those of us that are specced into vehicles.I'd like to take my 16 mil out of ADS and put it into tanks or the logi ds. So bored of ADS.  
 Do you think you deserve one?
 
 Really?
 
 At this point?
 
 For realsies brah?
 
 "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty." | 
      
      
        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 436
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.26 23:52:00 -
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 Vicious Minotaur wrote:You'll probably have to buy one to do that.
 CCP has no reason to give out something that now currently costs cash.
 Maybe when racial vehicles are introduced.
  
 Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p | 
      
      
        |  Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
 Onikanabo Brigade
 Caldari State
 
 1749
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 01:24:00 -
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 Vicious Minotaur wrote:You'll probably have to buy one to do that.
 CCP has no reason to give out something that now currently costs cash.
 They barely give out keys but they cost money as well as boosters in daily missions .
 
 They should give out respec's for the reintroduction , players who don't use vehicles just might start and it would just be a good business practice .
 
 I just can't believe that if they give out ONE to everyone , it would break their bank or matter much .
 
 Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . | 
      
      
        |  Supernus Gigas
 The Cooked Goose Coalition
 
 1116
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 01:31:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Those of us that are specced into vehicles.I'd like to take my 16 mil out of ADS and put it into tanks or the logi ds. So bored of ADS.  Do you think you deserve one? Really? At this point? For realsies brah? 
 I don't see how a partial respec for the vehicle tree is all that unreasonable.
 
 These are some pretty significant changes.
 
 FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVING CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS! | 
      
      
        |  deezy dabest
 IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
 
 1909
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 01:36:00 -
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 lol free respec.
 
 Get your credit card ready if you want one.
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        |  137H4RGIC
 Bloodline Rebellion
 Capital Punishment.
 
 437
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 02:02:00 -
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 Free respec? Lol welcome to new eden.
 
 I want to help DUST become a better experience for everyone. Let's work together! 137H4RGIC - Running for CPM2 (SOONGäó) | 
      
      
        |  Everything Dies
 Same Dung Different Year
 
 1220
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 02:11:00 -
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 Supernus Gigas wrote:True Adamance wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Those of us that are specced into vehicles.I'd like to take my 16 mil out of ADS and put it into tanks or the logi ds. So bored of ADS.  Do you think you deserve one? Really? At this point? For realsies brah? I don't see how a partial respec for the vehicle tree is all that unreasonable. These are some pretty significant changes. 
 Agree. CCP would/should refund the vehicle tree SP if new skills/modules are introduced and/or old ones are removed.
 
 
 Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof | 
      
      
        |  taxi bastard
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 359
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 06:52:00 -
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 if they introduce something they do not give you a respec
 
 i.e. racial scouts, heavys, rifles, pistols ect.
 
 if they take something away they reimburse you those SP's
 
 if they change something drastically but don't change the skill tree you do not get reimbursed SP's
 
 
 
 save your SP
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        |  Big Burns
 Dem Durrty Boyz
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 391
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 08:08:00 -
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 I said it once and I'll say it again. If they give us the Surya back or something better than standard tanks, nothing that crosses my path will live.
 
 
 I'm a try-hard, because half my team sits in the MCC. | 
      
      
        |  Reign Omega
 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1155
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 08:30:00 -
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 Even if they dont I'm respeccing my tanker, i have like 5 mil in infantry And Im going right back to 100 pilot.
 
 Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks.... | 
      
      
        |  Mad Syringe
 Dead Man's Game
 RUST415
 
 436
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 11:19:00 -
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 If you want a respec, BUY IT!
 
 We all would appreciate if you support this game and it's further development.
 
 Please close thread.
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        |  Jack McReady
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 1927
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 11:29:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Those of us that are specced into vehicles.I'd like to take my 16 mil out of ADS and put it into tanks or the logi ds. So bored of ADS.  you get one...
 
 if you pay for it, just like everyone else.
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        |  H0riz0n Unlimit
 Dead Man's Game
 
 372
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 11:29:00 -
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 I waited for HAV more than 1 year, if you want buy a respeck, if you dont, start from the beginning...
 
 Vote "Stucazz" for new gallente HAV.One of the few vehiculist remained in dust 514 | 
      
      
        |  Tesfa Alem
 Death by Disassociation
 
 783
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 12:44:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Those of us that are specced into vehicles.I'd like to take my 16 mil out of ADS and put it into tanks or the logi ds. So bored of ADS.  
 The only SP investment that would change is the Assault Dropship skill Tree, and maybe small turrets if you were so inclined not to use them on the tank. You want a respec out of HP, Reps,Plates, shields, fittings, propulsion to spec right back into the same HP, reps plates, shields, fittings....its amost like you want to divert a good chunk of SP back into infantry---
 
 Ah, i see what you did there.
  
 Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. | 
      
      
        |  pumping up
 Crux Special Tasks Group
 Gallente Federation
 
 109
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 13:58:00 -
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 If a substantial part of tree is changed I also would like a respec. It might be an incentive to skill more into another roll.
 Say I was a tanker before but don't agree with the changes.
 Or I was primarily an infantry player but now I want to get into tanking.
 
 Please help me on my quest to get the Recruiter C-II Dropsuit!
https://dust514.com/recruit/S5kDan/ <3 | 
      
      
        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 
 9343
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 15:05:00 -
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 I have most SP in the small blaster and Incubus. Terrible, terrible things
 
 Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name! ~Democracy will win! | 
      
      
        |  demonkiller 12
 Titans of Phoenix
 VP Gaming Alliance
 
 547
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 15:15:00 -
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 deezy dabest wrote:lol free respec. 
 Get your credit card ready if you want one.
 or he could just wait until march and buy them from the guy selling them for only 60mil isk
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        |  Aiwha Bait
 Demonic Cowboys
 
 62
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 15:18:00 -
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 Bro, bro, bro. For 100mil ISK, I can get you a respec ;)
 
 "I went looking for trouble, and I found it." - Charles Ponzi | 
      
      
        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 439
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 15:44:00 -
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 Tesfa Alem wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Those of us that are specced into vehicles.I'd like to take my 16 mil out of ADS and put it into tanks or the logi ds. So bored of ADS.  The only SP investment that would change is the Assault Dropship skill Tree, and maybe small turrets if you were so inclined not to use them on the tank. You want a respec out of HP, Reps,Plates, shields, fittings, propulsion to spec right back into the same HP, reps plates, shields, fittings....its amost like you want to divert a good chunk of SP back into infantry --- Ah, i see what you did there.   No, I have a main with 45 mil. This is my vehicle alt biatch.
  
 Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p | 
      
      
        |  Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
 Onikanabo Brigade
 Caldari State
 
 1750
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 16:21:00 -
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 Big Burns wrote:I said it once and I'll say it again. If they give us the Surya back or something better than standard tanks, nothing that crosses my path will live.
 That's what I remember you for and your heavy game .
 
 Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed . | 
      
      
        |  Spkr4theDead
 Red Star.
 
 2829
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 16:23:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Those of us that are specced into vehicles.I'd like to take my 16 mil out of ADS and put it into tanks or the logi ds. So bored of ADS.  Dunno if we'll be getting the logi ships.
 
 Swarms and forge are getting more damage, and if vehicles are going to stay the same as they are now, ie. terrible, then I'll just take all my SP out of it, but will continue to vehemently defend vehicles as being the most difficult role, being the most SP and ISK intensive single role.
 
 I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim | 
      
      
        |  Spkr4theDead
 Red Star.
 
 2829
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 16:26:00 -
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 Vicious Minotaur wrote:You'll probably have to buy one to do that.
 CCP has no reason to give out something that now currently costs cash.
 Because it might be a role that dedicated pilots may want to go 100% into. It's not tweaking a few things here and there. It's yet another entire overhaul because infantry will never be happy until vehicles are removed from the game.
 
 I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim | 
      
      
        |  Spkr4theDead
 Red Star.
 
 2829
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 16:30:00 -
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 Big Burns wrote:I said it once and I'll say it again. If they give us the Surya back or something better than standard tanks, nothing that crosses my path will live.
 Swarms are getting 10% bonus damage with the warbarge. The Surya will melt against Darkside swarms on a basic medium frame.
 
 I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim | 
      
      
        |  Ld Collins
 Titans of Phoenix
 VP Gaming Alliance
 
 187
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 16:49:00 -
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 When is this crap going to end vehicles are completely screwed now. There is no hope.
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        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 440
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 22:43:00 -
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 Spkr4theDead wrote:Big Burns wrote:I said it once and I'll say it again. If they give us the Surya back or something better than standard tanks, nothing that crosses my path will live.
 Swarms are getting 10% bonus damage with the warbarge. The Surya will melt against Darkside swarms on a basic medium frame. Where does it say the warbage has 10 % bonus?
 
 Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p | 
      
      
        |  Dreis Shadowweaver
 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1829
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 23:28:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Those of us that are specced into vehicles.I'd like to take my 16 mil out of ADS and put it into tanks or the logi ds. So bored of ADS.  The only SP investment that would change is the Assault Dropship skill Tree, and maybe small turrets if you were so inclined not to use them on the tank. You want a respec out of HP, Reps,Plates, shields, fittings, propulsion to spec right back into the same HP, reps plates, shields, fittings....its amost like you want to divert a good chunk of SP back into infantry --- Ah, i see what you did there.   No, I have a main with 45 mil into infantry. This is my vehicle alt biatch.  Oh rly? Funny, then, that you never, ever use vehicles when we squad, and you are in the Nova Knifers United channel...
  
 Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel  Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Dreis is [always] right - Kaze Eyrou | 
      
      
        |  thehellisgoingon
 MONSTER SYNERGY
 
 163
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.27 23:28:00 -
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 When ccp makes drastic changes to the game they should give out Respecs. I think the EWar changes called for one. 1 FREE for everyone because some people can't afford to respec. Others respec every month.
 
 
 But one dose not deserve a respec because ccp brought out new/old toys that you want. Or one is bored/sucks.
 
 There are some smart mercs that SAVE sp. I have 4m+ sp waiting to go into whatever.
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        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 440
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.28 00:09:00 -
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 Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Those of us that are specced into vehicles.I'd like to take my 16 mil out of ADS and put it into tanks or the logi ds. So bored of ADS.  The only SP investment that would change is the Assault Dropship skill Tree, and maybe small turrets if you were so inclined not to use them on the tank. You want a respec out of HP, Reps,Plates, shields, fittings, propulsion to spec right back into the same HP, reps plates, shields, fittings....its amost like you want to divert a good chunk of SP back into infantry --- Ah, i see what you did there.   No, I have a main with 45 mil into infantry. This is my vehicle alt biatch.  Oh rly? Funny, then, that you never, ever use vehicles when we squad, and you are in the Nova Knifers United channel...   Got 4 accounts , heavy/logi/commando, Assault dropships, sniper, and this 1 is my scout.
 
 Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p | 
      
      
        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 440
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.28 00:11:00 -
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 thehellisgoingon wrote:When ccp makes drastic changes to the game they should give out Respecs. I think the EWar changes called for one. 1 FREE for everyone because some people can't afford to respec. Others respec every month. 
 
 But one dose not deserve a respec because ccp brought out new/old toys that you want. Or one is bored/sucks.
 
 There are some smart mercs that SAVE sp. I have 4m+ sp waiting to go into whatever.
 I have a mil saved , but so much new stuff. It's like 1.8 all over again for pilots.
 
 Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p | 
      
      
        |  MrShooter01
 Ustio Mercenary Squadron
 
 1270
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.28 00:14:00 -
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 Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:I just can't believe that if they give out ONE to everyone , it would break their bank or matter much .
 Hell, it might even tempt people who otherwise don't care into buying one again later
 
 The first one is always free...
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        |  Thumb Green
 Raymond James Corp
 
 2023
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.28 02:13:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Big Burns wrote:I said it once and I'll say it again. If they give us the Surya back or something better than standard tanks, nothing that crosses my path will live.
 Swarms are getting 10% bonus damage with the warbarge. The Surya will melt against Darkside swarms on a basic medium frame. Where does it say the warbage has 10 % bonus? Spkr is blowing things out of proportion as usual. Swarms won't get a flat 10% damage bonus from the Warbarge but there will be a SL version available from the Warbarge that does have that 10% bonus among other things. Also the will be the "Augmented Ammunition's Facility" which will give a 1% per level bonus to your primary weapon
 
 -- Experimental Swarm Launcher. +10% Damage, +1 Clip, +3 Ammo, -10% Reload Speed. (from this blog)
 
 Admittedly though I don't blame Spkr for being afraid of that monster. The militia ones violate Spkr on a regular basis almost as badly as Rattati in that entirely fictional story posted on here the other day.
 
 [RYJC] | 
      
      
        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 440
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.28 02:37:00 -
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 Thumb Green wrote:Edit: Surprisingly enough, I'm against a respec of any part of the skill tree. CCP shouldn't give one group a free pass while forcing others to pay. So if there's going to be any free respec it best be a complete respec; though it should be optional to have it done. I imagine now they could give us a respec item to assign at character selection. ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Big Burns wrote:I said it once and I'll say it again. If they give us the Surya back or something better than standard tanks, nothing that crosses my path will live.
 Swarms are getting 10% bonus damage with the warbarge. The Surya will melt against Darkside swarms on a basic medium frame. Where does it say the warbage has 10 % bonus? Spkr is blowing things out of proportion as usual. Swarms won't get a flat 10% damage bonus from the Warbarge but there will be a SL version available from the Warbarge that does have that 10% bonus among other things. Also the will be the "Augmented Ammunition's Facility" which will give a 1% per level bonus to your primary weapon -- Experimental Swarm Launcher. +10% Damage, +1 Clip, +3 Ammo, -10% Reload Speed. (from this blog ) Admittedly though I don't blame Spkr for being afraid of that monster. The militia ones violate Spkr on a regular basis almost as badly as Rattati in that entirely fictional story posted on here the other day. In 1.8 dropsuit command was respecced because of new content. All the new variants and logi vehicles why not give a respec to pilots?
 
 Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p | 
      
      
        |  Joel II X
 Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
 
 5773
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.28 03:59:00 -
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 Vicious Minotaur wrote:You'll probably have to buy one to do that.
 CCP has no reason to give out something that now currently costs cash.
 Pretty much. You can get one whenever you want, for a small fee.
 
 I don't see a reason for CCP to give them out, anymore.
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        |  Spkr4theDead
 Red Star.
 
 2843
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.28 04:17:00 -
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 [quote=Thumb Green
 Spkr is blowing things out of proportion as usual. Swarms won't get a flat 10% damage bonus from the Warbarge but there will be a SL version available from the Warbarge that does have that 10% bonus among other things. Also the will be the "Augmented Ammunition's Facility" which will give a 1% per level bonus to your primary weapon
 
 [/quote]
 Why do infantry need a swarm that does even more damage? They already do insane damage.
 
 Nope. Confirming that pilot input is not, and never was, valued. - Breakin Stuff | 
      
      
        |  Tesfa Alem
 Death by Disassociation
 
 787
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.28 05:09:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Tesfa Alem wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Those of us that are specced into vehicles.I'd like to take my 16 mil out of ADS and put it into tanks or the logi ds. So bored of ADS.  The only SP investment that would change is the Assault Dropship skill Tree, and maybe small turrets if you were so inclined not to use them on the tank. You want a respec out of HP, Reps,Plates, shields, fittings, propulsion to spec right back into the same HP, reps plates, shields, fittings....its amost like you want to divert a good chunk of SP back into infantry --- Ah, i see what you did there.   No, I have a main with 45 mil into infantry. This is my vehicle alt biatch.  
 Implying you don't want to pull the same stunt with your alt
  
 Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me. | 
      
      
        |  Thumb Green
 Raymond James Corp
 
 2024
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.28 06:46:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:In 1.8 dropsuit command was respecced because of new content. All the new variants and logi vehicles why not give a respec to pilots?
 The vehicle tree already got its respec and I put what I got back into it.
 
 
 Spkr4theDead wrote:Why do infantry need a swarm that does even more damage? They already do insane damage.
 I'm not arguing for it and personally don't think the experimental weapons are a good idea to begin with; but the way you put it made it sound like all swarms were getting a 10% damage buff.
 
 [RYJC] | 
      
      
        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 440
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.28 23:35:00 -
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 Thumb Green wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:In 1.8 dropsuit command was respecced because of new content. All the new variants and logi vehicles why not give a respec to pilots?
 The vehicle tree already got its respec and I put what I got back into it. Spkr4theDead wrote:Why do infantry need a swarm that does even more damage? They already do insane damage.
 I'm not arguing for it and personally don't think the experimental weapons are a good idea to begin with; but the way you put it made it sound like all swarms were getting a 10% damage buff. Edit: In fact you were explicit about it when you brought up darkside swarms. Infantry got a respec because of added content, we got 1 because of removed content. Now Ccp is adding the content back in a couple years later and no respec should be given , that's ridiculous. So what if pilots get 1 more respec than infantry.
 
 Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p | 
      
      
        |  Ld Collins
 Titans of Phoenix
 VP Gaming Alliance
 
 189
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.29 15:31:00 -
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 Thumb Green wrote:Edit: Surprisingly enough, I'm against a respec of any part of the skill tree. CCP shouldn't give one group a free pass while forcing others to pay. So if there's going to be any free respec it best be a complete respec; though it should be optional to have it done. I imagine now they could give us a respec item to assign at character selection. ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Big Burns wrote:I said it once and I'll say it again. If they give us the Surya back or something better than standard tanks, nothing that crosses my path will live.
 Swarms are getting 10% bonus damage with the warbarge. The Surya will melt against Darkside swarms on a basic medium frame. Where does it say the warbage has 10 % bonus? Spkr is blowing things out of proportion as usual. Swarms won't get a flat 10% damage bonus from the Warbarge but there will be a SL version available from the Warbarge that does have that 10% bonus among other things. Also the will be the "Augmented Ammunition's Facility" which will give a 1% per level bonus to your primary weapon -- Experimental Swarm Launcher. +10% Damage, +1 Clip, +3 Ammo, -10% Reload Speed. (from this blog ) Admittedly though I don't blame Spkr for being afraid of that monster. The militia ones violate Spkr on a regular basis almost as badly as Rattati in that entirely fictional story posted on here the other day. 
 Experimental Laboratory granting exclusive Experimental Gear. Stats listed in comparison to their prototype version:
 
 -- Experimental Swarm Launcher. +10% Damage, +1 Clip, +3 Ammo, -10% Reload Speed.
 
 So this would mean that prototye swarms will get a 10% bonus an extra clip 3 more ammo and 10% reload speed reduction.
 
 I think that's something to worry about. Its actually stronger that the officer swarm launcher but lacking in range 175m instead of 200m and target lock speed 1.4s instead of 1.2. With it also being a primary weapon does it get a 1% after war barge level 4?
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        |  TEBOW BAGGINS
 GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
 
 1587
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.01.29 15:39:00 -
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 will keep my 16 mil into ADS and LAVs.. tho i dont really see a bright horizon for vehicles. it will either be FOTM for a couple weeks and nerfed into oblivion or it will just be more oblivion to start out with.. if they couldn't balance vehicles this long i dont see why now they should be suddenly able to.. despite the fact that CCP built infantry their own kiddy pool after butchering the traditional spawn system so it would be mindlessly easy for infantry to blob together but still they have to wander into skirmish and demand those vehicles be nerfed..
 
 this has become a niche game for infantry refugees that don't want vehicles in the game. when dust first began it was a vehicle based game with infantry players.. those players are mostly gone now i dont think a few weeks of OP vehicles before they get nerfed again will bring any of them back. too little too late CCP.. enjoy your vehicle update it won't last for long if it even is worth checking out.
 
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        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
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 Ld Collins wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Edit: Surprisingly enough, I'm against a respec of any part of the skill tree. CCP shouldn't give one group a free pass while forcing others to pay. So if there's going to be any free respec it best be a complete respec; though it should be optional to have it done. I imagine now they could give us a respec item to assign at character selection. ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Big Burns wrote:I said it once and I'll say it again. If they give us the Surya back or something better than standard tanks, nothing that crosses my path will live.
 Swarms are getting 10% bonus damage with the warbarge. The Surya will melt against Darkside swarms on a basic medium frame. Where does it say the warbage has 10 % bonus? Spkr is blowing things out of proportion as usual. Swarms won't get a flat 10% damage bonus from the Warbarge but there will be a SL version available from the Warbarge that does have that 10% bonus among other things. Also the will be the "Augmented Ammunition's Facility" which will give a 1% per level bonus to your primary weapon -- Experimental Swarm Launcher. +10% Damage, +1 Clip, +3 Ammo, -10% Reload Speed. (from this blog ) Admittedly though I don't blame Spkr for being afraid of that monster. The militia ones violate Spkr on a regular basis almost as badly as Rattati in that entirely fictional story posted on here the other day. Experimental Laboratory granting exclusive Experimental Gear. Stats listed in comparison to their prototype version: -- Experimental Swarm Launcher. +10% Damage, +1 Clip, +3 Ammo, -10% Reload Speed. So this would mean that prototye swarms will get a 10% bonus an extra clip 3 more ammo and 10% reload speed reduction. I think that's something to worry about. Its actually stronger that the officer swarm launcher but lacking in range 175m instead of 200m and target lock speed 1.4s instead of 1.2. With it also being a primary weapon does it get a 1% after war barge level 4? Well see how rare these swarm launchers are. What I'm confused about is the damage bonus from the warbage, not sure if that'll be another 5 or 10% on top of that, pretty ridiculous seeing how dmg mods were nerfed because of ttk issues. I'm guessing it will be a pay to win thing, and it'll be horendously long to level up.
 
 Proud owner of 4 proto commandos and 3 proto sentinels. All except amarr sent, its a beginner heavy tbh.:p | 
      
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