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The-Errorist 968	Posted - 2015.01.26 02:12:00 - [1] - Quote As we all know, the bonuses for the Caldari and Gallente assaults are a bit underwhelming and not very worthwhile; to fix that I propose giving them double racial bonuses: Caldari: Recoil and reload speed reduction Gallente: Recoil and dispersion reduction You might ask why these? RR has kick and takes the longest out of all the rifles to reload The ARs have kick and dispersion, especially the Tac AR Does this really fit the assault role? Well IMO, the point of assaults is to be slayers who get bonuses to make their weapons more efficient by fixing inherent weaknesses, and those do just that. MAG + Dust cb vet, an alt of Velvet Overkill & Agent Overkill AKA Enkouyami (Main PSN).
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12001	Posted - 2015.01.26 02:16:00 - [2] - Quote +1 I like Support 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name in honor of Cat Merc's cat which recently passed away.
AC Vintage Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.01.26 05:28:00 - [3] - Quote That is already the Gallente bonus, is it not? The Caldari sounds better than just the reload bonus now. I would much prefer the Caldari to get a Reload & Charge Time reduction. My reasoning being that the bonuses for all assaults address the unique characteristics of their racial weapons. Since Caldari weapons are the only weapons with charge times, then the "Assault Protocols" attached to the dropsuit's onboard computer should optimize the weapon systems. Shorter charge times INDIRECTLY aid in recoil management by making "burst-fire" an actually practical option. -25% Charge times (Lvl 5 Caldari Assault) Rail Rifle: 0.45s > 0.3375s Assault Rail Rifle: 0.3s > 0.225s Cable & Internetworking Technician in-training Studying for the CompTIA A+, N+, and CCNA Tips 'n Tricks appreciated!
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6069	Posted - 2015.01.26 06:19:00 - [4] - Quote The-Errorist wrote: As we all know, the bonuses for the Caldari and Gallente assaults are a bit underwhelming and not very worthwhile They seem to be performing as well as the others, both on the field and in the market data: http://dust.thang.dk/market_tryhardinator.php Any chance that buffing an item which isn't UP might make it OP? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
The-Errorist 971	Posted - 2015.01.26 10:56:00 - [5] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: The-Errorist wrote: As we all know, the bonuses for the Caldari and Gallente assaults are a bit underwhelming and not very worthwhile They seem to be performing very well, both on the field and in the market data: http://dust.thang.dk/market_tryhardinator.php Any chance that buffing an item which isn't UP might make it OP? Just because people use those dropsuits or not is not the only indicator of whether the skill for the suit is OP or not; there's more to a suit than just skill bonuses. Also and compared to the other assaults, the cal bonuses are just plain lacking. AC Vintage wrote: That is already the Gallente bonus, is it not? The Caldari sounds better than just the reload bonus now. I would much prefer the Caldari to get a Reload & Charge Time reduction. My reasoning being that the bonuses for all assaults address the unique characteristics of their racial weapons. Since Caldari weapons are the only weapons with charge times, then the "Assault Protocols" attached to the dropsuit's onboard computer should optimize the weapon systems. Shorter charge times INDIRECTLY aid in recoil management by making "burst-fire" an actually practical option. -25% Charge times (Lvl 5 Caldari Assault) Rail Rifle: 0.45s > 0.3375s Assault Rail Rifle: 0.3s > 0.225s Yeah it is the current gal bonus, I just edited the OP to reflect that. So you would want to give a charge time bonus that would decrease the charge time by around a tenth of a second, which to some is insignificant, coupled with a good, but not immediately noticeable bonus (reload speed)?. That would be a little underwhelming and like you said, only indirectly alleviate the high recoil of the weapon. Are you really sure you and others would prefer charge time reduction over recoil reduction? MAG + Dust cb vet, an alt of Velvet Overkill & Agent Overkill AKA Enkouyami (Main PSN).
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2005	Posted - 2015.01.26 11:00:00 - [6] - Quote This will be the 199billionth time weve made this thread, and were getting pretty efficient at it! Over the course of multiple threads like this one, the vast majority has demonstrated an almost unanimous desire for kick reduction. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
The-Errorist 971	Posted - 2015.01.26 11:02:00 - [7] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: This will be the 199billionth time weve made this thread, and were getting pretty efficient at it! Over the course of multiple threads like this one, the vast majority has demonstrated an almost unanimous desire for kick reduction. I was a bit late to the party. MAG + Dust cb vet, an alt of Velvet Overkill & Agent Overkill AKA Enkouyami (Main PSN).
GLOBAL RAGE Consolidated Dust 75	Posted - 2015.01.26 11:03:00 - [8] - Quote The-Errorist wrote: As we all know, the bonus for the Caldari assault is a bit underwhelming and not very worthwhile; to fix that I propose it a double racial bonus like the Gallente assault: Caldari: Recoil and reload speed reduction Gallente: Recoil and dispersion reduction You might ask why these? RR has kick and takes the longest out of all the rifles to reload Does this really fit the assault role? Well IMO, the point of assaults is to be slayers who get bonuses to make their weapons more efficient by fixing inherent weaknesses, and those do just that. CAL: Charge delay reduction & Recoil reduction on RR only GAL: Can suck it bonus.
Breakin Stuff Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 6760	Posted - 2015.01.26 11:03:00 - [9] - Quote Reload and recharge would be my recommendation. Or charge and recoil. AV
The-Errorist 971	Posted - 2015.01.26 11:13:00 - [10] - Quote Trello card to vote on for the Cal Assault bonus MAG + Dust cb vet, an alt of Velvet Overkill & Agent Overkill AKA Enkouyami (Main PSN).

Juedfin90 BLACK-GUARD E.B.O.L.A. 12	Posted - 2015.01.26 15:31:00 - [11] - Quote +1 its nessesary its to similar to the calmando... " If you aren´t strong, be smart " citation from Sun Zu´s Book Tactics of War
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 225	Posted - 2015.01.26 20:57:00 - [12] - Quote 2 month ago Rattati said "the probably futur Caldari assault bonus will be kick reduction (or charge time reduction)" Ho baby We do are still waiting I'm sorry for my bad English writting and comprehension.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 879	Posted - 2015.01.26 22:09:00 - [13] - Quote Reduced recoil while ADSing and charge up time per level. Gallente's is Rediced recoil and dispersion when hipfiring. This can add a flavour to Caldari Assault vs Gallente Assault battles Changes to Damage mods!
Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2133	Posted - 2015.01.26 23:32:00 - [14] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: This will be the 199billionth time weve made this thread, and were getting pretty efficient at it! Over the course of multiple threads like this one, the vast majority has demonstrated an almost unanimous desire for kick reduction. And we discovered over the course of multiple threads that kick and charge are it's only weaknesses. And that removing the only weaknesses on a weapon that is already overused due to it's amazingly high viability at all ranges (and it's usage stats still dwarf other supposedly 'OP' weapons) would only serve to make a new Caldari FotM fit. Just pointing it out, no need to thank me. But if you want to nerf the RR by that much and make it work normally on the assault, I'm cool with that. Might actually stop being the most used weapon by every suit in the game then Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0 I GÖú Puppies (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.*pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
GLOBAL RAGE Consolidated Dust 76	Posted - 2015.01.27 00:09:00 - [15] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: This will be the 199billionth time weve made this thread, and were getting pretty efficient at it! Over the course of multiple threads like this one, the vast majority has demonstrated an almost unanimous desire for kick reduction. And we discovered over the course of multiple threads that kick and charge are it's only weaknesses. And that removing the only weaknesses on a weapon that is already overused due to it's amazingly high viability at all ranges (and it's usage stats still dwarf other supposedly 'OP' weapons) would only serve to make a new Caldari FotM fit. Just pointing it out, no need to thank me. But if you want to nerf the RR by that much and make it work normally on the assault, I'm cool with that. Might actually stop being the most used weapon by every suit in the game then nerf/buff is the wrong solution to FOTM, as you clearly state making it work at 100% on it's racial suit is a playstyle balance. When racial playstyle is finalized then suite/weapon choice is a tactical decision based on environmental variables.
Ku Shala The Generals 1188	Posted - 2015.01.30 17:00:00 - [16] - Quote although somewhat lackluster that reload is vital to caldari playstyle, kick as a secondary bonus would be nice but not over the reload reduction. *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist Tiger Style
The-Errorist 1053	Posted - 2015.02.17 03:02:00 - [17] - Quote bump Suits, Tanks, a mode
noob cavman Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2136	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:12:00 - [18] - Quote But... There is very little kick or dispersion with the plasma rifle Going from my maxed gal assault to my assault c1 I feel very little difference I want to be a caveman! Ccp: LEGION Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 7239	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:17:00 - [19] - Quote Ku Shala wrote: although somewhat lackluster that reload is vital to caldari playstyle, kick as a secondary bonus would be nice but not over the reload reduction. I have never found a situation where the reload speed of the rail rifle was insufficient. None of the rifles are dependent upon reload speed to do the job. its a perk, not a necessity. AV
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 7239	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:19:00 - [20] - Quote noob cavman wrote: But... There is very little kick or dispersion with the plasma rifle Going from my maxed gal assault to my assault c1 I feel very little difference You are aware that the C1 and Ck.0 benefit from the full bonus equally? AV

Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 6751	Posted - 2015.02.17 16:37:00 - [21] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: noob cavman wrote: But... There is very little kick or dispersion with the plasma rifle Going from my maxed gal assault to my assault c1 I feel very little difference You are aware that the C1 and Ck.0 benefit from the full bonus equally? Gal ---> Cal Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Soul Cairn Fatal Absolution 35	Posted - 2015.02.18 01:54:00 - [22] - Quote How many of these threads are we going to keep making? CalAssault - Recoil and Kick (lol at chargetime, and lol at reload speed) GalAssault - Range or Reload (PR doesn't really need recoil reduction when the recoil on the TAR and Burst are easily manageable) Born Ammatar, Caldari at heart.
The-Errorist 1058	Posted - 2015.02.18 03:38:00 - [23] - Quote Soul Cairn wrote: How many of these threads are we going to keep making? CalAssault - Recoil and Kick (lol at chargetime, and lol at reload speed) GalAssault - Range or Reload (PR doesn't really need recoil reduction when the recoil on the TAR and Burst are easily manageable) Recoil and kick are two words that mean the same thing. The TAR's recoil isn't as manageable to a lot of other people that's not you. Range buff would make the TAR have more range than the scrambler rifle and in general there should be no range skills. Mostly because it would mess with the racial ranges, and it ruined the game back in beta. Suits, Tanks, a mode
DDx77 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 131	Posted - 2015.02.18 16:52:00 - [24] - Quote Reduce kick 5% per level Reduce kick 5% per level Reduce kick 5% per level Reduce kick 5% per level This would help the magsec as well Charge time reduction is not necessary. The people complaining about the bolt pistol would give birth to prehistoric whales Militia Bolt Pistol - Cause that fourth shot is just a waste of time


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