DUST Search - How Many FPS Does Dust Run??

Aramis Madrigal wrote:

Joel II X wrote:

Shutter Fly wrote:

Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote:

I love how you put Reckoning in there. <3

If that is so what would you propose could fix the FPS problem? This game is clinging to life and it needs a whole overhaul as far as the engine under the hood

Not IWS, and not a particularly popular opinion, but my suggestion would be integration into the Master Race.

60-144FPS FTW

JIMvc2 wrote:

On my new TV that I bought this year. Dust has been running for me so smooth that it feels like 60+ like literally. Thank you 120+ hz :D

Thats...not how it works...

Anything above 70 frames is solely for bragging rights. As I recall, humans can only view up to 50-60 fps

Not exactly, but there are diminishing returns with regard to perceived quality of image and fluidity of motion as FPS increases. You don't get much in the way of increased quality as you increase the FPS above a certain threshold, but your visual system can perceive the difference between two games/videos/whatever played at a different, high FPS. It probably won't improve your game play, but you'll be able notice.

Cheers,

Aramis

(my field of research/expertise is decision making based on sparse information, particularly as it relates to the chemical senses, but I know a fair amount about the visual system)

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Pr0phetzReck0ning KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 260	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:06:00 - [1] - Quote Hello Dusters! Longs time no see! I took a couple months off to get a PS4 and play other more polished games, yet I am back! For how long? Who knows, who cares? No one... But anyway. I was wondering: Just how many FPS does Dust run off?? The reason why I ask is because i just started playing again and I said to myself: nice improvements on the gameplay! But...the game still runs like utter ****. Everytime I try and jump out the dropship the game stutters. Yesterday, I froze and then teleported to a different area of the map. Textures are consistently popping in and out. So what am I getting at? Well, maybe what Dust needs is lower FPS. I assume that CCP is trying to run this game at 50-60 FPS but with all that goes on in the map graphically the Frames keep dipping to the point of unplayability. So yeah, how many Frames exactly does Dust work with and do you think they should lock the game at 30 FPS?? Maybe that will help the game run smoother like it use to a year ago. Prophet
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 18424	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:08:00 - [2] - Quote anywhere from about 12-24 by my reckoning. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 494	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:10:00 - [3] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Hello Dusters! Longs time no see! I took a couple months off to get a PS4 and play other more polished games, yet I am back! For how long? Who knows, who cares? No one... But anyway. I was wondering: Just how many FPS does Dust run off?? The reason why I ask is because i just started playing again and I said to myself: nice improvements on the gameplay! But...the game still runs like utter ****. Everytime I try and jump out the dropship the game stutters. Yesterday, I froze and then teleported to a different area of the map. Textures are consistently popping in and out. So what am I getting at? Well, maybe what Dust needs is lower FPS. I assume that CCP is trying to run this game at 50-60 FPS but with all that goes on in the map graphically the Frames keep dipping to the point of unplayability. So yeah, how many Frames exactly does Dust work with and do you think they should lock the game at 30 FPS?? Maybe that will help the game run smoother like it use to a year ago. Prophet Natively, I believe the game already runs at 24 or 30FPS, there's no way it runs anywhere near 60 at any time. I don't think anything on either the PS3 or PS4 runs at 60FPS.
Pr0phetzReck0ning KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 260	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:12:00 - [4] - Quote I love how you put Reckoning in there. <3 If that is so what would you propose could fix the FPS problem? This game is clinging to life and it needs a whole overhaul as far as the engine under the hood
JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 525	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:14:00 - [5] - Quote On my new TV that I bought this year. Dust has been running for me so smooth that it feels like 60+ like literally. Thank you 120+ hz :D MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 494	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:18:00 - [6] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: I love how you put Reckoning in there. <3 If that is so what would you propose could fix the FPS problem? This game is clinging to life and it needs a whole overhaul as far as the engine under the hood Not IWS, and not a particularly popular opinion, but my suggestion would be integration into the Master Race. 60-144FPS FTW JIMvc2 wrote: On my new TV that I bought this year. Dust has been running for me so smooth that it feels like 60+ like literally. Thank you 120+ hz :D Thats...not how it works...
hfderrtgvcd 1763	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:21:00 - [7] - Quote I would be more than happy with a solid 30. Right now its in the teens. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Doctor Day Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:25:00 - [8] - Quote Shutter Fly wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: I love how you put Reckoning in there. <3 If that is so what would you propose could fix the FPS problem? This game is clinging to life and it needs a whole overhaul as far as the engine under the hood Not IWS, and not a particularly popular opinion, but my suggestion would be integration into the Master Race. 60-144FPS FTW JIMvc2 wrote: On my new TV that I bought this year. Dust has been running for me so smooth that it feels like 60+ like literally. Thank you 120+ hz :D Thats...not how it works... GTFO YOU PC SCRUBB You know who I am gurl
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1554	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:26:00 - [9] - Quote about 5 or 10 on a good night AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 552	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:26:00 - [10] - Quote BF4 runs at 60. Regardless, dust has been running nicer for me lately. low to mid 20s or so. Up from low teens.

Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1595	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:28:00 - [11] - Quote It really depends which map or mode u run Crush them
JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 525	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:34:00 - [12] - Quote Doctor Day wrote: Shutter Fly wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: I love how you put Reckoning in there. <3 If that is so what would you propose could fix the FPS problem? This game is clinging to life and it needs a whole overhaul as far as the engine under the hood Not IWS, and not a particularly popular opinion, but my suggestion would be integration into the Master Race. 60-144FPS FTW JIMvc2 wrote: On my new TV that I bought this year. Dust has been running for me so smooth that it feels like 60+ like literally. Thank you 120+ hz :D Thats...not how it works... GTFO YOU PC SCRUBB PC really ? Is that the best comeback you have xD You mercs make me laugh so keep up the good jokes. MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5689	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:41:00 - [13] - Quote Shutter Fly wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: I love how you put Reckoning in there. <3 If that is so what would you propose could fix the FPS problem? This game is clinging to life and it needs a whole overhaul as far as the engine under the hood Not IWS, and not a particularly popular opinion, but my suggestion would be integration into the Master Race. 60-144FPS FTW JIMvc2 wrote: On my new TV that I bought this year. Dust has been running for me so smooth that it feels like 60+ like literally. Thank you 120+ hz :D Thats...not how it works... Anything above 70 frames is solely for bragging rights. As I recall, humans can only view up to 50-60 fps
Aramis Madrigal Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance 338	Posted - 2015.01.22 23:56:00 - [14] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Shutter Fly wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: I love how you put Reckoning in there. <3 If that is so what would you propose could fix the FPS problem? This game is clinging to life and it needs a whole overhaul as far as the engine under the hood Not IWS, and not a particularly popular opinion, but my suggestion would be integration into the Master Race. 60-144FPS FTW JIMvc2 wrote: On my new TV that I bought this year. Dust has been running for me so smooth that it feels like 60+ like literally. Thank you 120+ hz :D Thats...not how it works... Anything above 70 frames is solely for bragging rights. As I recall, humans can only view up to 50-60 fps Not exactly, but there are diminishing returns with regard to perceived quality of image and fluidity of motion as FPS increases. You don't get much in the way of increased quality as you increase the FPS above a certain threshold, but your visual system can perceive the difference between two games/videos/whatever played at a different, high FPS. It probably won't improve your game play, but you'll be able notice. Cheers, Aramis (my field of research/expertise is decision making based on sparse information, particularly as it relates to the chemical senses, but I know a fair amount about the visual system)
TritusX PH4NT0M5 143	Posted - 2015.01.23 00:21:00 - [15] - Quote DUST runs at optimized microwave Believe in RUST Don't hate the DUST lol
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 494	Posted - 2015.01.23 00:36:00 - [16] - Quote Aramis Madrigal wrote: Joel II X wrote: Shutter Fly wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: I love how you put Reckoning in there. <3 If that is so what would you propose could fix the FPS problem? This game is clinging to life and it needs a whole overhaul as far as the engine under the hood Not IWS, and not a particularly popular opinion, but my suggestion would be integration into the Master Race. 60-144FPS FTW JIMvc2 wrote: On my new TV that I bought this year. Dust has been running for me so smooth that it feels like 60+ like literally. Thank you 120+ hz :D Thats...not how it works... Anything above 70 frames is solely for bragging rights. As I recall, humans can only view up to 50-60 fps Not exactly, but there are diminishing returns with regard to perceived quality of image and fluidity of motion as FPS increases. You don't get much in the way of increased quality as you increase the FPS above a certain threshold, but your visual system can perceive the difference between two games/videos/whatever played at a different, high FPS. It probably won't improve your game play, but you'll be able notice. Cheers, Aramis (my field of research/expertise is decision making based on sparse information, particularly as it relates to the chemical senses, but I know a fair amount about the visual system) This You can easily tell the difference between 60 and 120 FPS. The human eye isn't digital, our sight is "analog", so we don't see in terms of FPS. We see in a constant stream, not frames. Anything above 60FPS doesn't give much of a gameplay advantage, but it does look much better. Once you start going above 144FPS, the returns start to decline, but are noticeable. A gif for comparison between 60 and 30 FPS: https://gfycat.com/SolidTallJaguar There is obvious room for improvement above the 60FPS example, so there is definite room for a discernible difference at higher framerates.
Pr0phetzReck0ning KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 261	Posted - 2015.01.23 01:09:00 - [17] - Quote I just wish the game ran better. When Uprising first came out it ran pretty damn good. And it looked good too. Somewhere between then and now things went down hill. They are adding so much to the game that it is making it run shittier. It looks and plays like a PS2 game :-/
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 384	Posted - 2015.01.23 02:55:00 - [18] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: I love how you put Reckoning in there. <3 If that is so what would you propose could fix the FPS problem? This game is clinging to life and it needs a whole overhaul as far as the engine under the hood LEGION PC I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Pr0phetzReck0ning KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 261	Posted - 2015.01.23 04:12:00 - [19] - Quote I hear that Legion is dead. Rouge got the boot and Legion with him
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3058	Posted - 2015.01.23 04:37:00 - [20] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: anywhere from about 12-24 by my reckoning. This sounds about right. Honestly basic game performance should have been a top priority for well over a year now. Sigh...... I guess we just let DUST bleed out. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? MY LIFE FOR AIUR!

demonkiller 12 The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 512	Posted - 2015.01.23 04:52:00 - [21] - Quote Shutter Fly wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: I love how you put Reckoning in there. <3 If that is so what would you propose could fix the FPS problem? This game is clinging to life and it needs a whole overhaul as far as the engine under the hood Not IWS, and not a particularly popular opinion, but my suggestion would be integration into the Master Race. 60-144FPS FTW JIMvc2 wrote: On my new TV that I bought this year. Dust has been running for me so smooth that it feels like 60+ like literally. Thank you 120+ hz :D Thats...not how it works... well technically if a game runs at 30 or 60fps, the faster the refresh rate of the screen the smoother the game will appear to be, so it does help to have a good tv
demonkiller 12 The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 512	Posted - 2015.01.23 04:53:00 - [22] - Quote Shutter Fly wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: I love how you put Reckoning in there. <3 If that is so what would you propose could fix the FPS problem? This game is clinging to life and it needs a whole overhaul as far as the engine under the hood Not IWS, and not a particularly popular opinion, but my suggestion would be integration into the Master Race. 60-144FPS FTW JIMvc2 wrote: On my new TV that I bought this year. Dust has been running for me so smooth that it feels like 60+ like literally. Thank you 120+ hz :D Thats...not how it works... Also it looks like you were mentioning 144hz monitors? refresh rate and frames per second are not the same thing
demonkiller 12 The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 512	Posted - 2015.01.23 04:55:00 - [23] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Shutter Fly wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: I love how you put Reckoning in there. <3 If that is so what would you propose could fix the FPS problem? This game is clinging to life and it needs a whole overhaul as far as the engine under the hood Not IWS, and not a particularly popular opinion, but my suggestion would be integration into the Master Race. 60-144FPS FTW JIMvc2 wrote: On my new TV that I bought this year. Dust has been running for me so smooth that it feels like 60+ like literally. Thank you 120+ hz :D Thats...not how it works... Anything above 70 frames is solely for bragging rights. As I recall, humans can only view up to 50-60 fps 24 or 26 actually, but when I play a game like league of legends or dota 2 at ~300 you can feel a massive difference its like subliminal messaging, you dont really see it but you just know it was there
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 164	Posted - 2015.01.23 11:01:00 - [24] - Quote If dust doesn't even run very close to 30 fps then thats dreadful as hell
bigolenuts Ancient Exiles. 1392	Posted - 2015.01.23 11:03:00 - [25] - Quote Last PC I ran I believe FPS was about 9 lol I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1890	Posted - 2015.01.23 12:08:00 - [26] - Quote 1. my dust experience is fluid. it could be better though. feels like 20-30 most of the time but it is actually hard to tell without being able to measure it. 2 this whole "how many frames can the eye see" is always filled with big amount of false internet wisdom. technically, the eye itself can see a single photon, but that doesn't mean the rest of your nervous system has any response to it. there is a reason why the spinal cord is responsible for reflexes. in danger, your brain would never be able to react in time because it is that slow. The human eye and its brain interface cannot even process more than 12 separate images per second and perceive them individually, however the human can see a difference of a single flash of light for 16ms (which equals about 60fps). BUT recognizing a short flash is not the same as seeing the content. you could watch a film, someone could have edited the movie and adding an image in between for 16ms. you would notice a flickering but you would never be able to see its content. you need to understand that there is a difference in: -How many images per second can the human actually see -How many images per second do I have to have to make motions look fluid
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 185	Posted - 2015.01.23 12:09:00 - [27] - Quote Anywhere from 2 to 30 Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 497	Posted - 2015.01.23 12:13:00 - [28] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: 24 or 26 actually, but when I play a game like league of legends or dota 2 at ~300 you can feel a massive difference its like subliminal messaging, you dont really see it but you just know it was there WRONG Shutter Fly wrote: Anything above 60FPS doesn't give much of a gameplay advantage, but it does look much better. Once you start going above 144FPS, the returns start to decline, but are noticeable. A gif for comparison between 60 and 30 FPS: https://gfycat.com/SolidTallJaguar There is obvious room for improvement above the 60FPS example, so there is definite room for a discernible difference at higher framerates. I'm aware that framerate and refresh rate are different values, but they are essentially the same thing. 1Hz = 1 x/s (a 1GHz cpu core goes through 1 billion clock cycles per second) = 1FPS (1 Frame Per Second) A 144Hz monitor refreshes 144 times per second, meaning it displays 144FPS. That monitor cannot display over 144FPS, and it does not magically turn 30FPS output into 144FPS. In the latter case, I believe the output is displayed as transmitted, but refreshed at 144Hz. When playing PC games, this is the reason why the graphics settings usually have a Vsync option, which limits the framerate to a determined multiple or factor (multiple for high FPS, factor for low FPS) of the display's refresh rate. When the refresh rate gets too far out of sync with the transmitted framrate, the display will not update and refresh correctly, causing strange display artifacts called "tearing".
WARxion ForDUST G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 338	Posted - 2015.01.23 12:19:00 - [29] - Quote My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about 10 years old when my mother said to him, "If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately." Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me- "Don't ever smoke. Please don't put your family through what your Grandfather put us through." I agreed. At 24, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regret for never having done it, because this thread gave me cancer anyway. Yes, I'm that desperate...
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 598	Posted - 2015.01.23 12:27:00 - [30] - Quote WARxion ForDUST wrote: My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about 10 years old when my mother said to him, "If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately." Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me- "Don't ever smoke. Please don't put your family through what your Grandfather put us through." I agreed. At 24, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regret for never having done it, because this thread gave me cancer anyway. Second hand smoke is just dangerous as smoking yourself. Stay away from smokers. Life has no "real" meaning. We are just dust particles in an endless world we call space. Just have fun while you live.

TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 598	Posted - 2015.01.23 12:30:00 - [31] - Quote I got a quick question I need answered: Should I revert to 480p? Would it run smoother than in 720p? I've bought an HDMI cable last year just for DUST so I can play in 720p and see lowercase letters... (yes, that bugged me so much I couldn't stand it) Life has no "real" meaning. We are just dust particles in an endless world we call space. Just have fun while you live.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 3060	Posted - 2015.01.23 14:21:00 - [32] - Quote I dont know about you guys, but for me personally, anything over 30 FPS is acceptable (ish) up to 60FPS is nice then anything above and beyond that I am not so sure I can tell the difference but hell more performance is always good! Extra framerates today is more like average framerates tomorrow If I could chose I would love DUST to be on PC running at 60+ FPS. I could max out the AF and AA settings as well as adjust other small details..... Ahh PC gaming is so much more satisfying than consoles. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? MY LIFE FOR AIUR!


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