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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2015.01.22 11:43:00 -
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I've not read all of the responses, no need.
I will say this; timers are not broken. The timer system works. The complaints are from people that are lazy. Basically this is being directed at NS(Japanese Corp). I've searched and can not find a single thread from NS about timers outside of their prime time. They did what they had to do, took the districts and set them to their prime time.
You don't like them, go take the districts from them and set the timer to what you want.
Spoon feeding the lazy people is not a fix. You are encouraging another "fix" when the next corp dominates MH.
You know why there are no Mexicans on Star Trek? They don't work in the future either.
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2015.01.22 11:46:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Based on what facts... it won't happen like that. Also grabbing people out of local to take part in PC is exactly what we want. Please get out of pro club only mentality. We want everyone in PC not just a few. This stuiped pro gamer ides is a large factor that screwed up dust.
It should have always been about corps throwing everything and the kitchen sink at each other.
24 hour wars mean you recruit till u can plug the gaps. Only idots would count on the same players 24/7 a well run corp will always have men and women it can count on.
If that means all the old powers die out so be it. I would rather see PC full of 1000 idots having fun. Than 100 pro gamers who do everything they can to avoid a fight
Edit.....so my phone posted this message 6 hours late....opps
Get your 16 mercs from local and attack someone then.
Please post your results.
You'll see, that playing with the same corp group of players is very advantageous. The game mode is called Planetary Conquest.
Do I need to define, "conquest" for you?
You know why there are no Mexicans on Star Trek? They don't work in the future either.
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:24:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:bigolenuts wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Based on what facts... it won't happen like that. Also grabbing people out of local to take part in PC is exactly what we want. Please get out of pro club only mentality. We want everyone in PC not just a few. This stuiped pro gamer ides is a large factor that screwed up dust.
It should have always been about corps throwing everything and the kitchen sink at each other.
24 hour wars mean you recruit till u can plug the gaps. Only idots would count on the same players 24/7 a well run corp will always have men and women it can count on.
If that means all the old powers die out so be it. I would rather see PC full of 1000 idots having fun. Than 100 pro gamers who do everything they can to avoid a fight
Edit.....so my phone posted this message 6 hours late....opps Get your 16 mercs from local and attack someone then. Please post your results. You'll see, that playing with the same corp group of players is very advantageous. The game mode is called Planetary Conquest. Do I need to define, "conquest" for you? I am unable to express how stuiped this comment is. We are not talking about PC right now we talking about how we would like to make it. And that was a repose to a covo while ago I forgot to quote Please try and keep up! It normally involves reading the tread
no need, comments from people who do not participate in a mode does not interest me.
Not everyone started in PC. Some worked at the game and got in the hard way. Participation medals are what has made todays youth weak,
You know why there are no Mexicans on Star Trek? They don't work in the future either.
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:42:00 -
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Zene Ren wrote:bigolenuts wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:bigolenuts wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Based on what facts... it won't happen like that. Also grabbing people out of local to take part in PC is exactly what we want. Please get out of pro club only mentality. We want everyone in PC not just a few. This stuiped pro gamer ides is a large factor that screwed up dust.
It should have always been about corps throwing everything and the kitchen sink at each other.
24 hour wars mean you recruit till u can plug the gaps. Only idots would count on the same players 24/7 a well run corp will always have men and women it can count on.
If that means all the old powers die out so be it. I would rather see PC full of 1000 idots having fun. Than 100 pro gamers who do everything they can to avoid a fight
Edit.....so my phone posted this message 6 hours late....opps Get your 16 mercs from local and attack someone then. Please post your results. You'll see, that playing with the same corp group of players is very advantageous. The game mode is called Planetary Conquest. Do I need to define, "conquest" for you? I am unable to express how stuiped this comment is. We are not talking about PC right now we talking about how we would like to make it. And that was a repose to a covo while ago I forgot to quote Please try and keep up! It normally involves reading the tread no need, comments from people who do not participate in a mode does not interest me. Not everyone started in PC. Some worked at the game and got in the hard way. Participation medals are what has made todays youth weak, laugh my ass off seriously? really? 5% elite dictating the shut down of game mode for 95% vets geez talking about self entitlement no need to discuss the matter with you any longer...
If there are 95% of you, get them together. See, that is where the problems lies. You guys are lazy. Get together these mercs you claim that are in the game and come to PC. You'd be surprised at how easy it is really.
Hell, I gave away all of our districts when we retired. I was practically begging in GD for new corps to come over and at least give it a try. They wouldn't. Main reason was they didn't have proto gear. So according to you, since players put time in the game, made a team of like-minded individuals and practiced tactics, they should be punished. Talk about self entitlement. no need to discuss the matter with you any longer.
You know why there are no Mexicans on Star Trek? They don't work in the future either.
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2015.01.22 12:55:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Zene select username then hide posts. Dude is just trolling.
typical, consider a response a troll attempt if it does not agree with your ideology. lol
This is exactly what I am talking about. Don't stand up for yourself, just ignore the issue and hope/pray someone else fixes it so that you can win on your terms.
You do know, regardless of what happens in PC, the top players will remain the top players. Just in case you never thought of that. It may take longer but they will eventually push out the corps that are not versed in tactics and have the players who are not as good.
Then you will have another excuse to come on here and cry about PC.
I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.01.22 13:05:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Only 5% of you play this gamemode. You other 95% are lazy!!!
Nothing to do with poor NPE, lack of incentives to push team play and/or winning in pubs, nowhere to team deploy at all without spending 50 mil ISK.
Makes sense. I live in Texas I hear rationale like this everyday. Usually from people missing teeth, but by God someday they are going to be rich too!!
My "someday" has been here for years.
Everything you mentioned above, incentives, team play, etc the people in PC now accomplished. I do understand your complaint. You are salty. You've been at the game forever and have yet to find yourself or corp relevant in any way, shape or form.
I do understand changes need to be made. I will agree, PC is not perfect and hard to get into. But by making the path easy what are you really accomplishing? It doesn't make sense to me to hand feed people/corps into it.
I am not without ideas on how to make it better. Don't think I am just shooting it down without having something else. I'm just not good at relaying the idea to paper. Over a year ago I had a CPM member FINALLY agree to listen and all that was said was, "would take to much coding and they won't do it". Never heard anything else about it.
But, continue taking shots at me for being elitist, having no teeth, etc, etc, etc. I wish you could be 25% as successful as me and have a tenth of the smile I do lol
I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.01.22 15:27:00 -
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Psycho Mascara wrote:What I think they should do with PC is make it like a monopoly or the board game "risk".
1. Just give players that has Corporations districts by random and every month in downtime randomly give corporation districts to fight for more like Dynasty Warriors games does it in Empires.
2. give the CEO of the corporations power by having corps fight not jumping from planet to planet but if they are next to that neribohing area they can only fight for that place across from them. (cause I think that's how NS got some of every districts cause corps can jump from different planets instead of fight a area at a time)
3. I forgot the game name but I know it was done by Sega when they have mechs fight for land.
(These are just ideals of games I seen and played that would be a good way for PC to work)
Psycho, just curious. How much experience do you have in PC and how mechanics work there now? Not trolling, just curious.
I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
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bigolenuts
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.01.22 17:12:00 -
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The point I am trying to make it is; it seems the game is catering to those who do not want to put the effort in to meet other like-minded players, practice, make allegiances and/or grind it out like those before them did.
Again, I can agree changes need to be made. But see how I was responded to here? As soon as I didn't agree I was stupid, not worth carrying on with etc, etc, etc. THAT is the type of player that is being catered to.
I don't recall anyone just inviting me into PC. I played a lot, met people and got better. How does that not work now? Hell, there is even FW to practice PC on now. The best we had back then was 8v8 corp battles.
Take NS for example. Not spoken to anyone in that corps for months but it is shameful what is happening to them. They are being forced to give up their district or have them taken away by CCP for playing the game the way it was intended.
Changes are needed, agreed. But don't make it easy.
I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2015.01.22 19:19:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:bigolenuts wrote:The point I am trying to make it is; it seems the game is catering to those who do not want to put the effort in to meet other like-minded players, practice, make allegiances and/or grind it out like those before them did.
Again, I can agree changes need to be made. But see how I was responded to here? As soon as I didn't agree I was stupid, not worth carrying on with etc, etc, etc. THAT is the type of player that is being catered to.
I don't recall anyone just inviting me into PC. I played a lot, met people and got better. How does that not work now? Hell, there is even FW to practice PC on now. The best we had back then was 8v8 corp battles.
Take NS for example. Not spoken to anyone in that corps for months but it is shameful what is happening to them. They are being forced to give up their district or have them taken away by CCP for playing the game the way it was intended.
Changes are needed, agreed. But don't make it easy. But the people that pushed through the bad mechanics and lack of corporation interfaces, logistical tools, training grounds etc are outliers. Hence the low population in PC. We ALL complained that CCP rushed Uprising, we complained about the mechanics of PC when they were released. You yourself have quit the game. If things were so great you wouldn't have left.
I left because I felt betrayed by CCP. Remember Fanfest 14? The majority of AE. leaving also played a large part in my leaving. TBH, I always liked the game. It was bad, but very playable IMO.
I've been spotted around again the past couple of weeks here and there. I sent you in-game messaages I thought lol
There has to be a better way to get people into PC aside from just giving them the path. Tiered is my idea and I think it would work if it could be coded. Get with me in game and I'll explain it. To much for me to type and I don't do a very good job of putting idea to paper. It would get every player in the game involved, protect lower level players from upper players and still provide rewards.
I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2015.01.22 20:05:00 -
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As crazy as this might sound. Ghostt makes some sort of sense in his first post of 3/4 lol
I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
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bigolenuts
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Posted - 2015.01.23 03:44:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:Self-Important Tripe You're still on this? You simply want to derail this thread further and have stopped "contributing". While you're fumbling to insult me and look cool, I'll be trying to be constructive. On Topic: Timers should exist as fuel with little to no timer for the initial assault though the main attack shouldn't occur until after the fuel runs out ( if the attackers win the initial assault) Seriously though, when German National Socialists invaded Poland in 1939 did they send a telegraph first saying: Hello, We're going to come visit you next week for genocide and annexation. Prepare thy anus. --Sincerely, Adolph H. No, they didn't, warning is only something you should get if you can turn one of the attackers so they inform you or by planting a spy of your own in their organization. As I said earlier in the thread, I understand the need for some "delay the final battle" mechanic, though to have that delay occur before aggressions have is just asinine. Even if it is requiring people to attack within an 8 hour window, that in effect is still warning since the aggressors will be attacking when the defenders choose to allow them the opportunity. Giving little to no warning will keep corps vigilant. Requiring Fuel to delay the seizure attempt is a reasonable timer in that it gives the defenders an amount of time that they can control in which to gather their troops (whether they be corporate members or independent contractors). This allows attackers to still retain the element of surprise while also giving the defenders a way to actively delay the attack on their District.
Actually, Adolf demanded that the British not interfere with his plans to annex Poland yet a treaty between Britain, Poland and France had already been signed. ****** renounced his non-aggression act with Poland then demanded again the British not interfere, wanted protection for German Poles, etc, etc, etc and then said **** it and invaded anyway. So yeah, there was an early warning system considering.
I use to play this game, but my dog got sick- Zatara the Pizza Boy
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