Do you know what annoys me about squad finder?

I join a squad, it fills up, most of the time the leader never queues up and everyone leaves. This would happen 9 times out of 10.

Auto-squading like we had in beta would do wonders for pub matches and NPE

...Sometimes they are getting their dead dog off the road (like i had to this summer)...

I hate squadding in dust, I cannot explain why,
I liked the team work in the FPS left 4 dead.

Ewww, socializing.

If I could join a squad that wouldnt talk or take 15 minutes in between matches I might play with others, buuut, I can't, so I dont lol.

Ewww, socializing.

If I could join a squad that wouldnt talk or take 15 minutes in between matches I might play with others, buuut, I can't, so I dont lol.

So, basically you ran it like an actual military fire team. In reality it is all about the hand signals and prior planning and understanding of expectations. Very little talking when in the field and in a war zone you usually can't hear over the gun fire in addition to the stealth factor of being silent.

I prefer this method of play over someone shouting about something out of the blue. Sucks though when there is no planning AND no verbalization of commands or intentions.

So, basically you ran it like an actual military fire team. In reality it is all about the hand signals and prior planning and understanding of expectations. Very little talking when in the field and in a war zone you usually can't hear over the gun fire in addition to the stealth factor of being silent.

I prefer this method of play over someone shouting about something out of the blue. Sucks though when there is no planning AND no verbalization of commands or intentions.

as much as i like to squad with randos.... i get chirped simply because i am a commando

WTF, commando is THE competitive squad suit, who the hell would kick a commando out?

I'm not really sure about that, I remember how terribad some of the matches used to get without the ability to actually pick where you were going or who with, it was a blessing and a curse all at the same time but it would fill squads true. I believe the reason for our success this afternoon was that everyone who joined came together because they wanted to work as a team rather than run and gun solo.

So I have now done some research and have found that a completely random grouping of people in Pubs in a squad does work even without mic support, just using basic squad commands (squad leader knows what he/she is doing with the almighty wheel) and by playing as a team of people.

To do this I made a "Public" squad and waited for it to fill up with people. As time went on we went from Dominating the matches (domination mode) to outright cloning out the other team over the course of 3 hrs. The squad started as 2 members and grew with each match and was successful. We had squad members from more than one random corp and it was amazing how well everyone who just wanted to play as a team could work together both without comms and without any instructions other than normal squad commands.

We did not proto stomp, we rolled over all the solo players on the other teams. Like a wave of terror they ran fleeing to the hills and tried to snipe us but still we came on strong and persevered. It was like a death squad in some horror film, not even the tanks that they threw at us could stand up to our fury.

Keep in mind this was a completely random group of mercs who all joined a squad and deployed with some simple planning before hand. Punch for ammo, stay together to stay alive, follow squad orders for movement. This is not hard to do guys and really funny how well it worked.

Thank you to all who participated in the application of bullets with me this afternoon. It was a true pleasure I will be running these Public Access Squads on a regular basis, if you want to be part of the "education process" join me in schooling the solos, one match at a time.

I don't. Neither do Dreis' squads.

as much as i like to squad with randos.... i get chirped simply because i am a commando

Also,
Silent Squads Lose Matches.



You may quote me on that.

I don't think I would have ever bought a mic or stuck with Dust without auto squading.

I think you should still be able to set up a squad. Solo players would be thrown into a squad.

Fingers like to point at the most (presumably) useless loadout in the squad the minute everything goes to h3ll.

Scouts do recon/infiltration.
Sentinels guard points and lay down suppressive fire.
Assaults are the mainstay of most effective squads.
Logis provide various types of support.
Commandos, well, add to fire-power, but that's where it usually ends. And are not very survivable without a 'living' squad.

I think I had a few of you "not like about squad finder types" try and join the squad today. We had just left battle my finger was hovering over the deploy button and bam not even 30 seconds in squad out of squad again. Normally I would say give it 5 mins then find another, ofc sometimes its because the squad lead is typing something in without a keyboard for the new members in squad.

Be aware my squads are run without mic because after over 3 years of running with them I have found that a broken mic is not as good as communication through the tools already built into the game. Check it out give someone a 5 min timer before leaving squad. Sometimes they are getting their dead dog off the road (like i had to this summer) and can't hit the deploy button while doing so.

The reasons to join the squad are twofold, one you have people who are there to assist you, working toward common goals with the interest in following the squad objectives as the lead puts them out for a better return on SP and time invested. Two if you talk before deployment and discuss how the squad will move you know what is supposed to happen and can fit yourself into a group that allows you to do better by complementing a variety of play styles.

I'm sorry you don't like the format, it is what we have here, I try not to leave my squad mates for dead....

WTF, commando is THE competitive squad suit, who the hell would kick a commando out?

I disagree with OP.

You can't imagine the amount of surprise I felt when I saw my name in your post. lol

I like to wait around 5 mins between matches and talk

You never actually speak though. Get a mic!