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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
VP Gaming Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.17 05:18:00 -
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I'm sorry Rattati but you murdered it. Pick one.
1. Match other SMG CPU and pg
2. Return it to 80 rounds in the clip
3. Or boost it's dps. It was supposed to be a high dps short clip weapon I thought.
Compared to the basic assault Combat rifle.
Basic ACR.
Dps - 397
Cpu - 22
PG - 3
More range
Proto Assault SMG
DPS - 380.2
CPU - 68
PG - 11
Less range
Who would use this?
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND
Titans of Phoenix
VP Gaming Alliance
191
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Posted - 2015.01.17 05:21:00 -
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Don't compare lihgt weapons to sidearms
The only issue it has is it blows it's load too quick
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
7109
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Posted - 2015.01.17 05:30:00 -
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I like it. When you have dispersion to V and damage to V it's better at range than the MagSec and works like a shotgun in close range.
Best of both worlds.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10772
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Posted - 2015.01.17 05:33:00 -
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:Don't compare lihgt weapons to sidearms
The only issue it has is it blows it's load too quick
This can be interpreted in any number of ways.
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Tectonic Fusion
2302
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Posted - 2015.01.17 06:13:00 -
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It is unbalanced compared to the other variants, keep in mind people.
(GIF)
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10774
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Posted - 2015.01.17 06:32:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:It is unbalanced compared to the other variants, keep in mind people.
I still don't see the need to compare it to a light weapon.
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Supernus Gigas
The Cooked Goose Coalition
1108
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Posted - 2015.01.17 06:47:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I like it. When you have dispersion to V and damage to V it's better at range than the MagSec and works like a shotgun in close range.
Best of both worlds.
Anything is better than the MagSec.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
706
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Posted - 2015.01.17 06:57:00 -
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Use normal/breach smg.
They're better.
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Stupid Blueberry
Pure Evil.
Capital Punishment.
956
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Posted - 2015.01.17 11:22:00 -
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Assault smg is best cqc smg. Just don't miss.
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
169
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Posted - 2015.01.17 14:27:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:It is unbalanced compared to the other variants, keep in mind people.
It's actually not though it's practically a god in cqc...Granted I have max smg skills
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
VP Gaming Alliance
1164
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Posted - 2015.01.17 15:04:00 -
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Why shouldn't I compare it to light weapons. When I first specced into min assault at the beginning of uprising I did it for the sole purpose of dual welding SMGs. Now even a damage modded proto SMG us weaker than a adv ACR. And still costs more CPU and PG. If sidearms are going to be substantially weaker they should cost less CPU and PG. |
Echo 1991
Titans of Phoenix
VP Gaming Alliance
678
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Posted - 2015.01.17 15:52:00 -
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Assault SMG is the worst variant. the assault variant is supposed to have more ammo per clip due to its RoF being higher and do less damage per shot. The normal SMG is supposed to have the ammo capacity the breach has, the breach should have the ammo cap of the assault and the assault should have the ammo cap of the normal SMG. its all backwards. On top of that the assault smg is harder to fit than a six kin CR. There is no reason to use it, apart from a slightly longer range. |
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3554
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Posted - 2015.01.17 15:58:00 -
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+1.
It should have the most DPS of any SMG, but also the shortest clip unload time.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3554
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Posted - 2015.01.17 16:00:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Assault smg is best cqc smg. Just don't miss.
BrSMG is better.
Higher alpha, more continuous fire, and better handling make it the best SMG IMO.
Its like a BrAR compared to the normal AR, except not OP as it has less DPS.
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Echo 1991
Titans of Phoenix
VP Gaming Alliance
678
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Posted - 2015.01.17 16:44:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:+1.
It should have the most DPS of any SMG, but also the shortest clip unload time.
No, it should have the biggest clip size. every other assault variant has more ammo per magazine. |
KILL3R H3LLH0UND
Titans of Phoenix
VP Gaming Alliance
200
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Posted - 2015.01.17 17:36:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Why shouldn't I compare it to light weapons. When I first specced into min assault at the beginning of uprising I did it for the sole purpose of dual welding SMGs. Now even a damage modded proto SMG us weaker than a adv ACR. And still costs more CPU and PG. If sidearms are going to be substantially weaker they should cost less CPU and PG.
1) yes, a PROTO sidearm will have more pg/CPU and an ADVANCED light weapon, why? Because it's PROTO
2) you realize they have 1200 RPM right? They have great DPS IMO, I destroy people with an m209
3) your invalid point is invalid
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
VP Gaming Alliance
1168
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Posted - 2015.01.17 18:15:00 -
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Why shouldn't I compare it to light weapons. When I first specced into min assault at the beginning of uprising I did it for the sole purpose of dual welding SMGs. Now even a damage modded proto SMG us weaker than a adv ACR. And still costs more CPU and PG. If sidearms are going to be substantially weaker they should cost less CPU and PG. 1) yes, a PROTO sidearm will have more pg/CPU and an ADVANCED light weapon, why? Because it's PROTO 2) you realize they have 1200 RPM right? They have great DPS IMO, I destroy people with an m209 3) your invalid point is invalid
1) fine let's compare the two adv ones.
Adv ACR
DPS - 416.8
Cpu - 39
Pg - 4
More range
Adv assault SMG
DPS - 362
CPU - 42
Pg - 7
Less range
How dumb are you? I compared the ADV ACR to the proto SMG to show how even a proto SMG with a damage mod is completely outclassed by an adv light weapon.
2) yes I know it's rpm. I just put the dps there... So sure it's ok but compared to the ACR it's worthless, especially considering it costs more to fit.
3) I don't even know what your referring to. Bad post is bad. Cool way of saying things bro.
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Drecain Midular
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
38
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Posted - 2015.01.17 18:48:00 -
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Its supposed to have more range and RoF but thats it... |
Awesome Pantaloons
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
701
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Posted - 2015.01.17 18:54:00 -
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HA! Ironic. ASMG is made for long-distance; ASMG is great for cqc. wut.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2278
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Posted - 2015.01.17 19:07:00 -
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I don't see why it even exists.
The Basic SMG is for all intents and purposes an Assault Variant as well.
Remove it and replace it with a Burst SMG or Tactical SMG.
This is like making a Tactical Scrambler Rifle Variant alongside the standard ScR.
Or a Burst Combat Rifle. Weapons that just make no sense and have no purpose.
The Assault HMG is another pointless gun.
Tactical Scrambler Pistol as well, is another weapon that has no purpose.
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LUGMOS
Quafe Premium
1598
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Posted - 2015.01.17 20:37:00 -
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I don't think sidearms should be very comparable damage wise to light weapons as long as they cost much less. Granted, the fitting shouldn't be more than a light weapons, so I can see that point.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
1101
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Posted - 2015.01.17 20:39:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I like it. When you have dispersion to V and damage to V it's better at range than the MagSec and works like a shotgun in close range.
Best of both worlds. Anything is better than the MagSec.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
2279
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Posted - 2015.01.17 21:53:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:Assault smg is best cqc smg. Just don't miss. BrSMG is better. Higher alpha, more continuous fire, and better handling make it the best SMG IMO. Its like a BrAR compared to the normal AR, except not OP as it has less DPS.
If we are to consider the Regular SMG as balanced, which I believe it is, the the BrSMG is by all rights overpowered.
It sacrifices 1.165 DPS and 1m of optimal range, sure, but that's where the drawbacks end.
Its damage per mag is 28.57% higher, its hipfire is better, its recoil and kick while aiming is more manageable...
And it carries just as much ammo, despite the rounds doing more damage and it having a smaller mag, so it essentially carries 42.85% more damage, which all but eliminates the need for any nanohives.
So if we are to consider the SMG as a balanced gun, the BrSMG is overpowered in comparison.
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