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Bethhy
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Posted - 2015.01.17 00:50:00 -
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Helghus Resther wrote:It's something that could open a world of more options, besides it's how CCP themselves portrayed it; Eve pilots paying Dust mercenaries to fight for districts on ground.
Maybe Dust players could pay Eve players to provide orbital support in planetary conquest. Why is it something that's blocked off?
Why don't we let Japan start trading it's currency 1 yen for 1 dollar with the USA?
Surely the two economies must be similar.
One civilization is thousands of years old... The other a few hundred... What could be the harm? :p
We teach kids in high-school specialized math they will never use unless for specific professions... Yet basic Economics, how to pay your taxes and how to research your leaders and vote are lessons not taught.
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Bethhy
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Posted - 2015.01.17 13:54:00 -
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Helghus Resther wrote:Bethhy wrote:Helghus Resther wrote:It's something that could open a world of more options, besides it's how CCP themselves portrayed it; Eve pilots paying Dust mercenaries to fight for districts on ground.
Maybe Dust players could pay Eve players to provide orbital support in planetary conquest. Why is it something that's blocked off? Why don't we let Japan start trading it's currency 1 yen for 1 dollar with the USA? Surely the two economies must be similar. One civilization is thousands of years old... The other a few hundred... What could be the harm? :p We teach kids in high-school specialized math they will never use unless for specific professions... Yet basic Economics, how to pay your taxes and how to research your leaders and vote are lessons not taught. Interesting. -Economics is taught -Taxes, part of economics -World leaders & their governments, taught "One civilization is thousands of years old... The other a few hundred... What could be the harm? :p" How old is the U.K. compared to the U.S.? Does that have anything to do with the strength of their currencies today? No. Keep this thread to the point, whatever you're trying to say doesn't even make any sense.
The sterling pound used to actually be a pound of sterling silver.. 1 pound of Silver in US dollars is like 260 bux... I think it is pretty similar.
Creating exchange rates constantly for EVE -> DUST would be insane... Not to mention your values are crazy off compared to the two economies and even the use of ISK.
Economics is not taught in the western world at all until post secondary education and has to be elected on by the participate.
Taxes are not part of economics.. The average university graduate could not navigate the tax laws in most westernized countries.
No one learns about their leaders of today in school, How to vote.. Research candidates.. They haven't for a few decades.. Which explains alot...
No Matter how stuck in your opinion that there should be an exchange rate for ISK between the two economies that CCP takes all the RISK on.. It will never make sense in economics and how building game economies work.
The best is having a player that gains benefit from the situation and can turn it into a profit based pass time... Otherwise it is a giant waste of CCP's and our time.
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Bethhy
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Posted - 2015.01.17 17:41:00 -
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Helghus Resther wrote:
All of your points of the state of Western education are true. It does need improvement, some countries could learn from Finland and others.
Back to the point though; it isn't a waste of time, it's addressing one of the larger problems that's just been left untouched, presumably because CCP hasn't known how to approach it yet.
You say it would never make sense in economics, well does the current situation make sense to you? Two completely isolated economies using the same standard currency, in completely different rates. Yes, CCP should just leave it like that because you know, it's a waste of their time to look into it.
^Your logic.
Again, the income rates for Dust need to be increased, as well as the cost of assets to balance that out; give a multiplier to income and assets prices, to create a ratio below 1.5 : 1 on a beginner level for Eve and Dust.
Next thing Dust needs, is more ways of making ISK so that running public battles can just be the basic means of income, while other things could produce much more ISK per a certain period of time.
It's another thing Dust doesn't do right; the general income minimum and maximum are way too close to each other.
It has nothing with making sense to you and everything to do with economics..... Exchanging currency IRL works because of a few people took over nearly every government bank then formed the concept of a world bank.
Exchanging currency from one closed economy to another closed economy would cause massive problems to both economies.
If i transfered my 2.68 billion to EVE from my DUST account at any reasonable exchange rate that has been said in this thread.... I Will flood EVE with large quantities of ISK that will come from absolutely no where in the game.
This is economy braking......
Eve's economy has been closed for over 10 years, The entire way crafting works... Nearly everything being player made.. Costs on goods in EVE established for 10 years of that economy evolving..
We start throwing trillions of ISK into this economy it will break and cause massive problems.
The Economy in DUST is NOTHING like EVE..... Other then using ISK.... Nothing is player made in DUST... The market is NPC stocked with full time items.
The entire way ISK is even used or the value in it is completely different between the two economies.
Paying 30 dollars for a ETC from CCP then getting 500 mil from the sale is one thing... That ISK was made and exists in that closed economy.
Transferring trillions of ISK into that economy will break it.
Transferring EVE ISK out of the economy that hasn't strictly been designed by their economist team could crash a big chunk of their market.
ISK was never meant or designed to transfer directly from one mercenary to one capsuleer.
The only way this would be possible would be if EVE pilots built every item we use in DUST.... If all DUST items where player made and sold? Then maybe in a year or two. |
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