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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.01.13 15:42:00 -
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I havent used scout since forever. last time was like in closed beta when we had those gallente type 1 or 2 light suits, good old times. now I am planning to look into them to see what all the fuzz is about
my scout fit I will now work towards too: Scout mk.0 Enhanced Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Extender Complex Profile Dampener Complex Profile Dampener Complex Kinetic Catalyzer Kaalakiota Bolt Pistol Ishukone Nova Knives Allotek Flux Grenade Ishukone Cloak Field Boundless Remote Explosive
good? bad? scrub material? suggestions for improvements? |
robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
504
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Posted - 2015.01.13 16:03:00 -
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Not so sure you're going to be able to fit all that....
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
504
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Posted - 2015.01.13 16:11:00 -
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Nevermind I just realized you're using enhanced shields extenders... for some reason I thought it said complex. Anyways looks like a nasty minja fit to me Personally I would throw a complex precision enhancer in there
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1774
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Posted - 2015.01.13 16:17:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:Nevermind I just realized you're using enhanced shields extenders... for some reason I thought it said complex. Anyways looks like a nasty minja fit to me Personally I would throw a complex precision enhancer in there yeah, the enhanced shield extenders makes it alot easier to fit for the cost of 53 shield hp. complex shields extenders would be great but they seem to be too demanding for this suit and I would rather have proto remotes instead of complex shields. |
Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2792
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Posted - 2015.01.13 16:45:00 -
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Use a STD flux and try to fit complex shield extenders. I'd also consider using ADV cloak and REs but that's just me.
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Lac Nokomis
Palliative
34
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Posted - 2015.01.13 16:53:00 -
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I would put a second kin cat on der. I still have nightmares of playing an Imperial FW match and this MK.0 went 39 and 2 with knives. That little **** was so fast it literally scared all of us. It was like watching one of those scary movies that don't actually exist. Showing up outta nowhere and stuff. Always seemingly right behind us... |
Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1686
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Posted - 2015.01.13 17:00:00 -
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Looks alot like my Scout mk.0.
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Luna McDuffing
COALICION LATINA Smart Deploy
146
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Posted - 2015.01.13 17:44:00 -
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Lac Nokomis wrote:I would put a second kin cat on der. I still have nightmares of playing an Imperial FW match and this MK.0 went 39 and 2 with knives. That little **** was so fast it literally scared all of us. It was like watching one of those scary movies that don't actually exist. Showing up outta nowhere and stuff. Always seemingly right behind us...
I wonder if you and me had the misfortune of running into the same guy. I also saw a min scout who all he did was cut people to ribbons. In my case it was in a domination. His score was also in the high 30s if I remember correctly. I sent him mail and he told me that he completely bypasses the cloak and puts on some kinkats. |
Ku Shala
The Generals
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Posted - 2015.01.13 17:46:00 -
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with all that dampening do you need the proto cloak?
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1686
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Posted - 2015.01.13 17:48:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:with all that dampening do you need the proto cloak?
Only if he wants to beat GA Logi + Focused Active Scans |
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
1631
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Posted - 2015.01.13 18:01:00 -
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Lac Nokomis wrote:I would put a second kin cat on der. I still have nightmares of playing an Imperial FW match and this MK.0 went 39 and 2 with knives. That little **** was so fast it literally scared all of us. It was like watching one of those scary movies that don't actually exist. Showing up outta nowhere and stuff. Always seemingly right behind us... 2 kincats really gimps your fit.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
1631
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Posted - 2015.01.13 18:06:00 -
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Personally, I would replace the BP for a CR, not just because it's a light weapon, but also for fitting space. Then I'd remove the second damp (you won't need it 90% of the time in pubs), replace it with a ferroscale, then I'd tone down the REs to (since you seem to like them) adv, then I'd change the cloak to adv, then use Proto shield mods. No nade (no space).
Voila, my go-to proto pub fit.
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Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game RUST415
696
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Posted - 2015.01.13 18:15:00 -
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That's good. 3x enh shields are better than complex, cuz minja doesn't have fk ton of pg to fit.
2x complex damps + ishukone cloak to avoid amarr scans.
If you like Bolt pistol over CR then use it [if you'll manage that PG usage].
Use this fit. Or use one damp if you're playing versus noobs without scans.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game RUST415
696
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Posted - 2015.01.13 18:21:00 -
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Lac Nokomis wrote:I would put a second kin cat on der. I still have nightmares of playing an Imperial FW match and this MK.0 went 39 and 2 with knives. That little **** was so fast it literally scared all of us. It was like watching one of those scary movies that don't actually exist. Showing up outta nowhere and stuff. Always seemingly right behind us...
When minja have 2 kincats on then it won't come from nowhere. It will glow, glow and glow.
Loyal to State. Led by Tibus Heth.
Not scared of death [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba].
Honour and Mission over money
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
1631
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Posted - 2015.01.13 18:27:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:That's good. 3x enh shields are better than complex, cuz minja doesn't have fk ton of pg to fit.
2x complex damps + ishukone cloak to avoid amarr scans.
If you like Bolt pistol over CR then use it [if you'll manage that PG usage].
Use this fit. Or use one damp if you're playing versus noobs without scans. 1 damp really is sufficient most of the time. Being passively scanned isn't really an issue either, since the scouts' scan range was butched. There should be in the knife in the neck of any medium or heavy by the time they passively scan you. I only use 2 damps if I'm being actively scanned.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5470
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Posted - 2015.01.13 20:07:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:Not so sure you're going to be able to fit all that.... I know for a fact he won't. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1778
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Posted - 2015.01.13 20:10:00 -
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Joel II X wrote: I know for a fact he won't.
fits perfectly fine |
Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance
1635
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Posted - 2015.01.13 20:13:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Not so sure you're going to be able to fit all that.... I know for a fact he won't. Anywho, wouldn't run. That's a boring fit. The only acceptable fit (for me) is using 3 CPX Kincats on a Mk.0. That's... So... GIMPED!!! I know that you don't run a cloak either, and you don't run HP mods. Why do you intentionally limit yourself?
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thehellisgoingon
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
125
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Posted - 2015.01.13 20:14:00 -
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Hit detection is so bad in this game. speed is your best friend. |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
7168
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Posted - 2015.01.13 20:22:00 -
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While I can't understand why its always proto or go home when it comes to suits, I think you are in the general ball park of a good Minja fit.
Really, it is whatever works for you.
That being said, a couple of points.
Ishukones are almost a requirement, good to see you fit them.
Try suits that replace a Dampener with another KinCat. You may find that even with 1 Dampener you are not being picked up on Tacnet so there would be no strategic advantage to another.
With REs, you can get by with standard level, and it will allow fitting higher tier modules.
Same goes for your non NK side arm. I really like Flaylocks right now, and standards get the job done.
Try at least one fit with a cloak to see how it works for you. Some people can handle the downsides, and it helps in open spaces. Some of us can't stand how clunky it feels and have gotten rid of it all together. You won't know which camp you are in until you try it yourself.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1782
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Posted - 2015.01.14 09:12:00 -
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well, I know everyone likes their sCRub on their scouts but nailing scouts with the Bolt Pistol and getting headshots on sentinels just feels too satisfying to pass up
after some testing I found the cloak very situational, mostly because it takes ages to switch to weapon even if you are not cloaked (looks like a bug, beside that my 100 year old grandfather can move his arm faster). it is funny to fool some scrubs with it but against those stacked FW pro teams it is often very useless. I will most likely switch it to a scanner
Scout mk.0 Complex Shield Extender Complex Shield Extender Complex Shield Extender Complex Profile Dampener Complex Profile Dampener Complex Kinetic Catalyzer Ishukone Nova Knives Kaalakiota Bolt Pistol Flux Grenade Duvolle Quantum Active Scanner Boundless Remote Explosive
fits perfectly if I downgrade the flux to basic, it makes harassing shield HAVs less effective but the suit has more HP in exchange. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5488
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Posted - 2015.01.14 09:20:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Joel II X wrote: I know for a fact he won't.
fits perfectly fine
Do you have Fitting Optimization on some things or something? Perhaps I'm not taking into account the fact that Dampeners don't take any PG, but still... |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5488
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Posted - 2015.01.14 09:26:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Joel II X wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Not so sure you're going to be able to fit all that.... I know for a fact he won't. Anywho, wouldn't run. That's a boring fit. The only acceptable fit (for me) is using 3 CPX Kincats on a Mk.0. That's... So... GIMPED!!! I know that you don't run a cloak either, and you don't run HP mods. Why do you intentionally limit yourself? Because I have all 4 scouts unlocked as well as the other roles.
If I want eHP, I go Assault. If I want to have a lower profile and more armor than a scout, I use the Amarr Scout.
If I want to dampen, I use my Gallente.
Loldari is lol so I rarely use it.
You keep asking me the same question lol and I'm not gimping my suits. Minmatar with 3 kincats is awesome and fun. If you're in a city map, you'll perform much better, but the same could be said about every other scout. I don't run cloak because it takes up too much PG since I use all 3 lows for kincats and must always carry REs. Minjas didn't need them back in the old days, and I sure as hell won't need it now. Plus, the delay is horrible, anyways. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1783
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Posted - 2015.01.14 09:30:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Joel II X wrote: I know for a fact he won't.
fits perfectly fine Do you have Fitting Optimization on some things or something? Perhaps I'm not taking into account the fact that Dampeners don't take any PG, but still... I have max cores and I also have weapon fitting optimizations. it works without weapon ffitting optimizations though, it should fit with sidearms and explosives at lvl 4, otherwise CPU will fack you up. enhanced shield extenders are so much better in terms of hp to PG/CPU ratio, ~25% less hp but 45% less PG required (and 33% less CPU) |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5488
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Posted - 2015.01.14 09:35:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Joel II X wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Joel II X wrote: I know for a fact he won't.
fits perfectly fine Do you have Fitting Optimization on some things or something? Perhaps I'm not taking into account the fact that Dampeners don't take any PG, but still... I have max cores and I also have weapon fitting optimizations. it works without weapon ffitting optimizations though, it should fit with sidearms and explosives at lvl 4, otherwise CPU will fack you up. enhanced shield extenders are so much better in terms of hp to PG/CPU ratio, ~25% less hp but 45% less PG required (and 33% less CPU) I see! I have max cores, but explosives at 3 and only have Fitting Optimization on my Plasma Cannon. Makes sense, I guess. I'm used to not having enough PG due to 3 kincats, though so that must be it. |
DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
7039
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Posted - 2015.01.14 10:50:00 -
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Minmatar Assault does it better.
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And wave them side to side.
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Hawkings Greenback
Red Star.
265
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Posted - 2015.01.14 13:29:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Joel II X wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Not so sure you're going to be able to fit all that.... I know for a fact he won't. Anywho, wouldn't run. That's a boring fit. The only acceptable fit (for me) is using 3 CPX Kincats on a Mk.0. That's... So... GIMPED!!! I know that you don't run a cloak either, and you don't run HP mods. Why do you intentionally limit yourself? Because I have all 4 scouts unlocked as well as the other roles. If I want eHP, I go Assault. If I want to have a lower profile and more armor than a scout, I use the Amarr Scout. If I want to dampen, I use my Gallente. Loldari is lol so I rarely use it. You keep asking me the same question lol and I'm not gimping my suits . Minmatar with 3 kincats is awesome and fun. If you're in a city map, you'll perform much better, but the same could be said about every other scout. I don't run cloak because it takes up too much PG since I use all 3 lows for kincats and must always carry REs. Minjas didn't need them back in the old days, and I sure as hell won't need it now. Plus, the delay is horrible, anyways.
Anyone who has proto minja needs to try triple kinkats because you absolutely fly, also people do not expect you to close them down so quickly. Granted you have the HP of a tomato but damn its fun.
Its all a matter of taste I suppose & getting used to having so very little HP.
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Every night I burn.
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