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Gyn Wallace
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.01.14 16:03:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:To the Logis in this thread, let me ask you this: 'Would you continue to play as Logi if you earnt only half as many WP as you do now?'
If it was accompanied by halving the cost of our suits and equipment, sure. Would you support the OP's idea for increasing assault's WP earnings by what? 50% if there were an accompanying increase in the costs of your suits and gear by 150%?
I've partially agreed with the OP's sentiment from a slightly different direction, favoring reducing the rep tool's WP reward ticks from +25 down to +22, a small incremental drop. But currently logi WP rewards are not more disproportionate than Logi equipment costs, when compared to the OP's assault suits. Those logis outscoring you on WP might still be operating at a loss while you're operating at a profit.
I don't mind making it harder for logis to top the score board, so long as that solution doesn't make the economics of running a logi even worse than they already are. For so long as single pieces of equipment can cost more than your entire fitting, I'm against nerfing logi's WP and income.
Try topping the score board, while running at a profit. Die more than twice? Congratulations, you just lost isk that round, even if you earned 400k isk.
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Gyn Wallace
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.01.15 01:58:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:not sure where you get this numbers from but I can only suspect that you have taken them out of your arse because you are biased 
Somebody asks for a logi perspective; I provide a logi perspective; and you immediately accuse me of being biased.
Do you need me to explain why that's a bit silly?
Better yet, instead of fixating on numbers that aren't central to the point, would you like to answer a variation of question I posed? Would you be willing to accept a buff to the ease with which you can earn WP, if it was accompanied by a nerf in the form of additional isk and skill point sinks, comparable to those of a logi?
I don't have a problem with that. In case you didn't notice I'm largely agreeing with the OP. I just don't want to achieve WP parity with other roles, while remaining the weakest, most expensive, second slowest role. I think logis would gladly accept a little WP nerf if we also got a buff to address some of the bigger problems with running a logi.
Also (not really a specific response to Jack), its easy to ignore the difficulties other bear. Its easy for me to imagine that there isn't much effort to get kills for people with better gun game than my own. Just like I suppose its easy for people who don't run proto logis very much to imagine that managing five or six resources well, isn't much more difficult than managing three or four resources well. That doesn't strike me as a solid apples-to-apples comparison between developing good gun game and developing good logi skills.
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Gyn Wallace
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.01.15 02:07:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:killingis actually the most important part in the game with the biggest risk and not the best rewards. does not matter how you look around it or how you try to bend reality with words, you cant hack an objective if you dont clear the enemy squad first.
Eh. Mostly, but not entirely.
Like when a minscout in a hack suit "bends reality" by hacking the objective right under your nose, and then ranged fire keeps you from dehacking or rehacking the point, because you hold the point instead of holding the overwatch.
One of the things I like about Dust is that its really not simple enough to boil it down to one "most important" element. But what do I know? I'm apparently very biased and tricky with words. 
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