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Zaria Min Deir
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Posted - 2015.01.13 09:35:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:
3) To prevent exploits, there will be no Skill Points granted to Veterans with less than minimum War Points.
Attributes:
Veteran Minimum War Point Threshold = M (WP)
Please discuss and propose numbers
800 higher if you add WP for team scan kills for solo players like me.
In 50 clone ambush? Really?
But anyway, stating the obvious here, the threshold has to be different for different game modes.
CCP Rattati wrote:
2) To prevent War Point exploits, there will be diminishing returns above a certain number of War Points, a high number that is "next to impossible" to reach with normal gameplay
I am very curious, though, what you consider this "next to impossible" amount of WP to be...
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.01.13 10:00:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:Make dust track the distance your character moves during the course of a match. If it's under X and you have less than Y kills, no SP and no ISK for you. Is it really that hard?
Shouldn't be hard at all, considering that they already track the distance for one of the daily missions. Meaningful, on the other hand, is another thing entirely....
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.01.13 10:01:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:voidfaction wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:
3) To prevent exploits, there will be no Skill Points granted to Veterans with less than minimum War Points.
Attributes:
Veteran Minimum War Point Threshold = M (WP)
Please discuss and propose numbers
800 higher if you add WP for team scan kills for solo players like me. In 50 clone ambush? Really? But anyway, stating the obvious here, the threshold has to be different for different game modes. CCP Rattati wrote:
2) To prevent War Point exploits, there will be diminishing returns above a certain number of War Points, a high number that is "next to impossible" to reach with normal gameplay
I am very curious, though, what you consider this "next to impossible" amount of WP to be... Numbers significantly higher than 2500 are deeply hard to hut without being a logi spammer. Anything above 3000 is impossible without boosting or being in the top 0.5% native shooter badass player category. Since they are outliers they should not be used as a balancing factor.
"Logi spammer" = playing as a logi, in your opinion, then?
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
1020
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Posted - 2015.01.13 17:20:00 -
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pumping up wrote:What is your target ?
Will vets have more/less or the same SP payout as now?
While at that, could you please remove the 10k+ sp in a single match missions? So far I think I've only gotten very close to the 10k but I had one mission with 17k .... never going to happen without exploits.
Not true. Is quite doable, not easy, not going to happen every game, but is doable without exploits. Unless playing to win is an exploit. Now, is it doable by every player in the game? Probably not.
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
1020
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Posted - 2015.01.13 17:37:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:pumping up wrote:What is your target ?
Will vets have more/less or the same SP payout as now?
While at that, could you please remove the 10k+ sp in a single match missions? So far I think I've only gotten very close to the 10k but I had one mission with 17k .... never going to happen without exploits.
Not true. Is quite doable, not easy, not going to happen every game, but is doable without exploits. Unless playing to win is an exploit. Now, is it doable by every player in the game? Probably not. It's all about Boosters Boosters Boosters. Spend your money and you can be a winner too
Oh, doing it with boosters is easy, I meant without.
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
1020
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Posted - 2015.01.13 17:43:00 -
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pumping up wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:voidfaction wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:pumping up wrote:What is your target ?
Will vets have more/less or the same SP payout as now?
While at that, could you please remove the 10k+ sp in a single match missions? So far I think I've only gotten very close to the 10k but I had one mission with 17k .... never going to happen without exploits.
Not true. Is quite doable, not easy, not going to happen every game, but is doable without exploits. Unless playing to win is an exploit. Now, is it doable by every player in the game? Probably not. It's all about Boosters Boosters Boosters. Spend your money and you can be a winner too Oh, doing it with boosters would be easy, I meant without. Sorry, I tried really hard so far but it just -seems- impossible to me. Though I saw people abusing shooting for 5k WP maybe those are enough for that.
Abusing shooting? What?
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
1020
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Posted - 2015.01.13 17:58:00 -
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pumping up wrote:Quote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:
Sorry, I tried really hard so far but it just -seems- impossible to me.
Though I saw people abusing shooting for 5k WP maybe those are enough for that.
Abusing shooting? What? No, that was worded poorly. Someone abused the game to rack up 5k WP. (No kills no deaths on both sides - with same corp)
Yes, ok, I get you now. Sure, there are people who do that. But high WP doesn't mean that someone was exploiting, those cases are the minority (at least in my experience).
The so called impossible 3k+, 4k+, 5k+ etc. WP games are far from impossible without exploiting, but like I said, it's not going to happen every game. You generally speaking need a game that lasts long enough, so ambush and skirmish are pretty much out, a domination game in which the point is highly contested and is held considerable lengths of time by each team is where you see that kind of WP, usually. And they are not just logis, as AV and vehicles, or some combination of the three are generally the ones with the highest WP from active games. I have seen assaults and scouts pull off 3k, 4k WP matches too, though that requires them to do things other than "see red dot. shoot."
Which is another reason some blanket minimum WP requirement is a bad idea. The length of the match should make a difference in determining what sort of WP someone should have generated if they were at least trying to contribute.
Quite honestly, I am more ok with the losers who spawn in and toss a few uplinks in the spawn area before going afk getting rewards, than someone who got ****** by the matchmaking, but still tried, being ripped off.
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
1020
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Posted - 2015.01.13 18:06:00 -
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pumping up wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:pumping up wrote:Quote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:
Sorry, I tried really hard so far but it just -seems- impossible to me.
Though I saw people abusing shooting for 5k WP maybe those are enough for that.
Abusing shooting? What? No, that was worded poorly. Someone abused the game to rack up 5k WP. (No kills no deaths on both sides - with same corp) Yes, ok, I get you now. Sure, there are people who do that. But high WP doesn't mean that someone was exploiting, those cases are the minority (at least in my experience). The so called impossible 3k+, 4k+, 5k+ etc. WP games are far from impossible without exploiting, but like I said, it's not going to happen every game. I take your word for it. I just wanted to emphasize that the rewards shouldn't be set in the masters (boosters) league. The reward for that mission was a decryptor or two :(
I feel your pain, I only get offered keys (the rare time I do) for activating instant boosters :(
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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