Monkey MAC
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Posted - 2015.01.13 11:30:00 -
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I'm obviously a little late to the party here so forgive me, if younhave heard all this before.
1) A single AVer should absolutely be capable of destroying your Incubus/Python much like the HAV an ADS is a vehicles mainly for solo pilots. This maintains the one to one ratio.
Your ADS specalises in clearing rooftops and hunting HAVs which is where the vehicle becomes worth it's weight in gold.
2) The whole problem stems from 2 main factors, vehicles do not have designated roles on the battlefield, a vehicle user can still have their infantry suit available aftee death.
If we had more defined roles for vehicles we could more accurately determine their force strength and buff/nerf them appropriately (this would be easiest by creating a full vehicle roster)
Because vehicle Pilots can still have their regular suit in addition to the vehicle, they effectively have 2 suits that they can change between at a moments notice, imagine having a scout suit that could transform into a heavy suit by pressing the circle button, that's effectively what a vehicle does.
3) Everyone, Pilots, AVers and most infantry (excluding those who don't want vehicles at all) are happy to give pilots so much more variation, the only stipulation most of us have is that pilot suits are also implememted.
4) Finally in relation to your 2mill SP for an AV fit statememt, this assumes you do not account for any of the transferrable or passive skills in the infantry, which would mean you only account for the large turret and the hull type you use.
In addition, while it the entire swarm launcher tree costs less than 10mill and the Commando tree also, slapping a PRO Launcher on a PRO Minmando will just get you killed a lot.
Your average AV suit (including your perphierals such as, sidearm, ehp mods, biotic mods, damage mods, electronic and engineeeing passive bonuses, weapon handling) comes to about 34million SP the last time I totted it up (memory serving) and approximately 500-750k ISK
While Your average Vehicle came to approximately 32.6million SP and about 1.3million ISK, though with the price reductions most of my ADS fits come in at around 450k ISK.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
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Monkey MAC
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Posted - 2015.01.13 11:41:00 -
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Sorex Yel wrote:
Nailed it. In EVE it's common for massive numbers of smaller ships to engage a larger ship or a small group of larger ships. In a 16v16 game, this asymmetrical balance methodology does not work. Either vehicles need to require multiple people to use (equivalent to their power), or they need to be equal in power to infantry. If vehicle users cannot except either of those options, vehicles should honestly just be removed. Because a 16v16 game cannot be balanced if one player is able to be as powerful as two or three other players combined.
I may not like your attitude towards other people as a CPM, but for once with that statement you are preaching to the choir.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
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Monkey MAC
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Posted - 2015.01.13 23:10:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:slobbering Go ruin a different game.
Aah I almost missed this, almost.
Such arguements
Much logic
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