Atiim
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Posted - 2015.01.12 19:38:00 -
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It's not trolling if I tell the truth, right?
@Vodar
If you must know, I've been Piloting vehicles for over a year now and I'm well aware of how it's like to operate vehicles. Though of all the things causing new players to quit, I don't believe AVers are one of them.
And to your OP:
It costs more than 2mil SP to acquire a competent MinCom w/Swarms AV Rig, as you need to invest into a heavy amount of Core Skills to make your AV rig decent. That aside, using your logic you should never be able to stand up to my AV as I have around 15-20mil invested into my rig while you only have 9mil into yours.
Also, there are still plenty of turrets capable of hitting Infantry (20GJ Railgun and Small Missile Launchers come to mind).
Before I dive further into your argument, have you ever heard the phrase: "Teamwork for me, but no teamwork for thee"?
@Stupid Blueberry
Your analogies between the STD Swarm Launcher and the Python is silly, as the Python is a customizable frame making it comparable to a Dropsuit while the STD Swarm Launcher is a weapon making it compatible to a Turret. Comparing them in the reverse sense (as you just did) is akin to comparing the Caldari Logistics to a 20GJ Blaster.
That aside, your analogy does have some other holes in it. The first problem, is that the STD Swarm Launcher is unable to kill anything besides parked LAVs and.. err... Stupid Blueberries. If we're to make the STD SL like the Python, wouldn't it be safe to say that the Python would need a nerf remove it's ability to kill anything beyond the former?
Then there's the fact that not every STD Swarm Launcher is actually invisible, and that it's a glitch. That means that allowing players to utilize invisible Pythons would be an exploit, meaning that players who do use the Invisible Pythons would be banned from DUST 514. You don't want to completely remove the Pilot subset, do you?
Soraya might be a bit abrasive at times, but at least he's showing up.
@Operative
The term phobia refers to "the fear of". That in mind, it'd be improper to accuse anyone of having "Vehiclephobia" as to be quite honest nobody outside of Academy Graduates fears vehicles as most Pilots aren't good enough to validate fearing.
@Toolbar Zoobar
The point of currency in this game is to prevent players from using the best gear in the game 24/7 (which failed miserably), and to offer a sense of progression (ie, as you become better your ISK total begins to increase).
But I agree, balance does make this game boring. That's why we should increase the SL's lock range to 650m and volley speed to 50km/s, and increase the FG's damage per hit to around 8k. Make the Plasma Cannon's 15k as well.
As you said, why strive for balanced gameplay when we could all be entertained by overpowered gear and broken gameplay?
Where in the White Paper does it say that the CPM should always be impartial? Given how everyone takes the side of a debate or topic that wouldn't even be possible.
Will update when I read further into the thread.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2015.01.12 19:46:00 -
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Vodar 540 wrote:Quite frankly I am severely disapointed with this thread it was meant to be a discussion on how to improve the game, but yet again all the AV people came in here to start whining and fight against change.
Actually, what happened is that an AVer offered a rebuttal to your premise, than you offered a counter-argument while also claiming that I'm a biased [evil] AVer who doesn't know what it's like to be a Pilot (which is false, as I've been piloting vehicles for over a year now). 
Then vehicle Pilots (mainly Stupid Blueberry, Toolbar Zoobar, and Spkr) decided to begin flaming your thread. The only AVers I see here is me (who only made one slightly off-topic statement), Breakin Stuff (who made only one speculation), and Soraya Xel (who was abrasive, yet still constructive).
It's okay to not like AVers, but don't blame your problems on them when they're not the source.
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