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IvanThe Terrible I
AV Capital City
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:07:00 -
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I skilled into swarms because of annoying vehicles. I only skilled into the swarms and took them to 4. what should I skill into? and should I get a better dropsuit than a MLT amarr medium frame? |
Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:28:00 -
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wow, you took swarms to 4 w/o even having a std dropsuit? 
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robin williams' ghost
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:29:00 -
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Minmatar commando gets the bonus to swarms
Damage mods help too.
If you took swarms to lvl4, you might as well finish it to 5
Maybe even some proficiency...
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control
Otherworld Empire Productions
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:29:00 -
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Minmatar Commando for the suit's bonus to swarms among other thing.
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:30:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:wow, you took swarms to 4 w/o even having a std dropsuit?
Good point, and if you haven't worked on your cores yet, stop what youre doing and get some points into there immediately.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
15000
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:36:00 -
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You don't skill into the Minmatar Commando for the +10% Damage, you skill into it for the Reload Speed. That aside, I don't recommend the MinCom as it's not very friendly for new players.
Though if I may ask, is there anything else you're skilled into?
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
1509
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:45:00 -
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IvanThe Terrible I wrote:I skilled into swarms because of annoying vehicles. I only skilled into the swarms and took them to 4. what should I skill into? and should I get a better dropsuit than a MLT amarr medium frame?
You are fine... That I-Win button can be put on any suit.
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Cheydinhal Guard
Random Gunz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:46:00 -
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Take a step back and focus on getting a proper suit before you further skill into anything else. Also don't blow your SP on things you have no idea about. Focus on your core skills before you try to skill into anything new. If you spend any SP, make sure you know what you're getting into.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2781
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:46:00 -
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Here is my plan if I were to skill into Minmandos. It requires ~3m SP (in order on the skill tree):
Dropsuit Command 3:
-Min Heavy 3
--Minmmando 3
Dropsuit Upgrades 3:
-Armor 1
--Plates 3
-Core Upgrades 3
--Engineering 1
Weaponry 3:
-Weapon Upgrades 3
-Light Weapons 3
--Combat Rifle 1
--Swarms 4
This is the bare minimum (fitting including) to fit this:
Minmando M-1
Enh Damage Mod
Enh Reactive Plate
Combat Rifle
CBR Swarm
K-2 Hive
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
1594
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:57:00 -
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Atiim wrote:You don't skill into the Minmatar Commando for the +10% Damage, you skill into it for the Reload Speed. That aside, I don't recommend the MinCom as it's not very friendly for new players.
Though if I may ask, is there anything else you're skilled into?
I skilled into the Minmando for the damage bonus.
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Nonoriri ko
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.11 17:58:00 -
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Skill into any commando suit.
Min altar has damage bonus but needs sp to take to 5
I went caldari, basic starts with 2 high slots for damage mods.
I didn't wanna spend 5mil sp to take to 5
Commando lets you equip two light weapons.
This means you can equip 2 swarms.
After shooting 3 times switch and fire 3 more.
This does more damage in less time than taking minmatar to lv5
Of course minmatar 5 with 2 swarms does the most but sp cost.
Basic minmatar does not have 2 high slots for damage mods,
That's why I went caldari for swarm av. |
Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2781
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:00:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Atiim wrote:You don't skill into the Minmatar Commando for the +10% Damage, you skill into it for the Reload Speed. That aside, I don't recommend the MinCom as it's not very friendly for new players.
Though if I may ask, is there anything else you're skilled into? I skilled into the Minmando for the damage bonus.
The damage + reload compound on each other for more damage.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
15001
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:01:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:
I skilled into the Minmando for the damage bonus.
Then you got conned, any suit can get the same SL Damage as the MinCom.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
2712
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:02:00 -
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If you need help with swarms, you're doing it wrong.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
2712
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:03:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:
I skilled into the Minmando for the damage bonus.
Then you got conned, any suit can get the same SL Damage as the MinCom.
lolwut
Commandos offer free 10% damage at level 5 without any stacking penalties.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
2712
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:09:00 -
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Atiim wrote:You don't skill into the Minmatar Commando for the +10% Damage, you skill into it for the Reload Speed. That aside, I don't recommend the MinCom as it's not very friendly for new players.
Though if I may ask, is there anything else you're skilled into?
That's like going into the Cal assault for the reload speed.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
15001
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:13:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:
lolwut
Commandos offer free 10% damage at level 5 without any stacking penalties.
Not trying to start an argument, but MinComs only have 2 High Slots.
To put that into perspective, MinAssaults with 4 DMs can reach +20% Damage (with stacking penalties) while the MinCom can reach +23.5% Damage with 2 DMs.
The 3.5% won't increase the SL's TTK (neither would the 5.5% if the Assault only used 3 DMs).
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2782
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:18:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:
I skilled into the Minmando for the damage bonus.
Then you got conned, any suit can get the same SL Damage as the MinCom.
Wrong.
Max a Minmando can get is ~30% more damage.
The most effectively any other suit can get (3 damage mods, if they can fit) is ~15%.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
15001
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:21:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:
Wrong.
Max a Minmando can get is ~30% more damage.
The most effectively any other suit can get (3 damage mods, if they can fit) is ~15%.
23.5%*
Also, see above.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2784
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:33:00 -
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Atiim wrote:[quote=Vulpes Dolosus]
Wrong.
Max a Minmando can get is ~30% more damage.
The most effectively any other suit can get (3 damage mods, if they can fit) is ~15%.
Nvm, I redid my math and got your numbers.
Still though, in practice that's totally impractical for the Min assault:
-Minmando still gets a higher bonus and can be used at the ADV tier suit.
-There's no way it's fitting 4 complex damage mods plus supporting hives and defenses in order to be viable.
-The Minmando also gets a light weapon for AI (with the same damage bonuses).
You have to admit, it's a lot more useful than you're making it out to be. Far more than my Cal scout's scan rangeGǪ
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
15005
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:36:00 -
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I didn't mean to say that it's useless, that would be silly. All I was trying to say is that the reload speed bonus is more beneficial than the +10% Bonus.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
7042
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Posted - 2015.01.11 18:44:00 -
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IvanThe Terrible I wrote:I skilled into swarms because of annoying vehicles. I only skilled into the swarms and took them to 4. what should I skill into? and should I get a better dropsuit than a MLT amarr medium frame?
You have swarms Level 4 and no STD suit?
You really are the terrible.
XD
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1458
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Posted - 2015.01.11 19:15:00 -
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I think it just reflects most new players experience's and how, despite tanker tears, vehicles can dominate a match. If you don't have AV there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
Forge gun was the weapon I first took to proto and I did it with a STD suit.
Because, that's why.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
273
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Posted - 2015.01.11 19:33:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:IvanThe Terrible I wrote:I skilled into swarms because of annoying vehicles. I only skilled into the swarms and took them to 4. what should I skill into? and should I get a better dropsuit than a MLT amarr medium frame? You are fine... That I-Win button can be put on any suit.
Lol, I need help with swarms too. How do you aim it? Lol.
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