DUST Search - laser rifle.....how do you use it?

Shamarskii Simon wrote:

First, heat has nothing to do with damage. How long you hold the trigger affects damage. (LR's damage is exponential unlike every other weapon in game)

The LR is the ultimate mid-long (90-105) weapon. At these distances other weapons cannot out dps you.

Do not burst fire the laser. If you find a group of people bring it close to o.h (59 rounds on any suit other than amarr assault). After, let it cool down for a few milliseconds (if at lvl 5 LR) and release the last 41 rounds. Go into cover, rep up a bit, restart.

When you are just engaging the enemy, you have to miss the first few rounds so your dps is higher by the time you reach armor. Since the profile is +20s/-20a the little misses can give you the jump on the person. Prefiring and abusing cover can keep you alive, and earn you the kill.

Proficiency is a must (imho) the fewer rounds spent on shields, the higher the chance of you getting the kill (Prof 5 has saved me many times (as the kill was earned at O.H.).).

If you must use the laser in close range, fire 59 rounds. Switch to your sidearm and from there pray. Since you have your anti-shield weapon (LR), your sidearm should be anti armor (Magsec, SMG).

These are a few things i do to keep my cal assault a threat w/ the laser. High recharge + regs to keep me alive between cooldown periods. But i'm pretty sure these work with every LR user.

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taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 291	Posted - 2015.01.11 14:18:00 - [1] - Quote i just put some points into it and its awful......please tell me i am doing something wrong. anyone who can use it please give me advice
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 666	Posted - 2015.01.11 14:22:00 - [2] - Quote I usually hold R1. Works fine for me. But i dunno if you have same settings. The other thing is that laser sucks if there are lags/someones have high latency. Loyal to State. Led by Tibus Heth. Not scared of death [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba]. Honour and Mission over money
Skullmiser Vulcansu 237	Posted - 2015.01.11 14:30:00 - [3] - Quote I use it all the time. I would not use it at close range. I know that the damage at close range has been slightly improved, but even so, there is no dispersion ever, so it's no good. I carry a breach scrambler pistol for all close quarters engagements with more successes than failures. The Ion pistol and submachine gun would probably also be good. I don't use them, though. Also, I almost never use the sight. Just hip fire it, and strafe to aim. I do use the sight to kill snipers. Now that I think about it, maybe my sensitivity is too high. The description says that the damage is based on heat, but I'm pretty sure the damage only goes up based on how long you've held down the trigger. Some people will say to cook the laser elsewhere, and then aim at enemies, but that's only a good idea if you are using that rifle with an Amarr Assault suit of high skill level. If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION 21	Posted - 2015.01.11 14:56:00 - [4] - Quote First, heat has nothing to do with damage. How long you hold the trigger affects damage. (LR's damage is exponential unlike every other weapon in game) The LR is the ultimate mid-long (90-105) weapon. At these distances other weapons cannot out dps you. Do not burst fire the laser. If you find a group of people bring it close to o.h (59 rounds on any suit other than amarr assault). After, let it cool down for a few milliseconds (if at lvl 5 LR) and release the last 41 rounds. Go into cover, rep up a bit, restart. When you are just engaging the enemy, you have to miss the first few rounds so your dps is higher by the time you reach armor. Since the profile is +20s/-20a the little misses can give you the jump on the person. Prefiring and abusing cover can keep you alive, and earn you the kill. Proficiency is a must (imho) the fewer rounds spent on shields, the higher the chance of you getting the kill (Prof 5 has saved me many times (as the kill was earned at O.H.).). If you must use the laser in close range, fire 59 rounds. Switch to your sidearm and from there pray. Since you have your anti-shield weapon (LR), your sidearm should be anti armor (Magsec, SMG). These are a few things i do to keep my cal assault a threat w/ the laser. High recharge + regs to keep me alive between cooldown periods. But i'm pretty sure these work with every LR user.
Kierkegaard Soren Eridani Light Horse Striker 646	Posted - 2015.01.11 15:20:00 - [5] - Quote The sensitivity on ADS is a bit off so I only use it to line up the headshot on snipers; otherwise hip fire all the way and aim for the head. You need to do as much damage as quickly as possible becUse yor target will bunny hop and move erratically to break your aim, forcing you to lose damage and ru the risk of overheat. All that being said it's still am immense weapon to use Dedicated Commando. CEO of Eridani Light Horse Strikers. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7015	Posted - 2015.01.11 15:24:00 - [6] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: First, heat has nothing to do with damage. How long you hold the trigger affects damage. (LR's damage is exponential unlike every other weapon in game) The LR is the ultimate mid-long (90-105) weapon. At these distances other weapons cannot out dps you. Do not burst fire the laser. If you find a group of people bring it close to o.h (59 rounds on any suit other than amarr assault). After, let it cool down for a few milliseconds (if at lvl 5 LR) and release the last 41 rounds. Go into cover, rep up a bit, restart. When you are just engaging the enemy, you have to miss the first few rounds so your dps is higher by the time you reach armor. Since the profile is +20s/-20a the little misses can give you the jump on the person. Prefiring and abusing cover can keep you alive, and earn you the kill. Proficiency is a must (imho) the fewer rounds spent on shields, the higher the chance of you getting the kill (Prof 5 has saved me many times (as the kill was earned at O.H.).). If you must use the laser in close range, fire 59 rounds. Switch to your sidearm and from there pray. Since you have your anti-shield weapon (LR), your sidearm should be anti armor (Magsec, SMG). These are a few things i do to keep my cal assault a threat w/ the laser. High recharge + regs to keep me alive between cooldown periods. But i'm pretty sure these work with every LR user. I applaud your comprehensiveness. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 525	Posted - 2015.01.11 15:32:00 - [7] - Quote Best way to use the LR is to put it on the Ammando. The damage bonus is good to have, and if you get in CQC, just pull out your ScR. I may not have a mic, but trust me, you NEED me in your squad if you want to win. When I'm on a roll, I'm unstoppable.
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3177	Posted - 2015.01.11 15:34:00 - [8] - Quote Answer: carefully. I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning. Havok, my Destiny. I am Incorruptible*
CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1905	Posted - 2015.01.11 15:35:00 - [9] - Quote amarr assaul level 5 assault ak.0 prof 5 LR 3 complex damage mods then hold R1 Don't Be A Scrub, Gimme A Sub!
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. 2479	Posted - 2015.01.11 16:07:00 - [10] - Quote Don't think of the laser rifle as a gun, think of it as a sniper. Your a mid distance sniper, so your sniping in the combat zone. So you can act as area denial, or as an annoying distraction flank. The longer the laser fires the more damage it will do. So what you want to do is preheat the laser on the ground before blazing up the target. Go for heavies, they seem to be clueless when they are getting melted. Also don't get frustrated if your not getting kills. This rifle is an ASSIST KING! So even though you melted that heavy down to 100 hp and someone took the kill, you are supporting your team. That heavy would have wrecked them if it wasn't for your holy light brave warrior. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3

Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14998	Posted - 2015.01.11 16:19:00 - [11] - Quote Use it like you would a Rail Rifle, just don't burst fire it. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Boot Booter Titans of Phoenix 1156	Posted - 2015.01.11 16:22:00 - [12] - Quote The secret, as others have said, is pre firing the weapon at something before you hit your target. If you start firing at someone right away they usually can escape because the damage is very low at the beginning. With an amarr assault and some damage mods this thing can instantly melt any suit if you prefire about 30-40 rounds. It's funny to watch proto ck0 assaults panic for the 0.2 seconds it takes to melt them into oblivion. I use the sight always unless it is CQC. Guess that's a matter of opinion and if you can aim. Don't be afraid to try it in CQC either, it can still do quite a bit of damage. Love this gun. Ps. nanohives are a must
taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 292	Posted - 2015.01.11 16:59:00 - [13] - Quote thanks for the advice guys.....not sure it suits my playstyle but playing arround with it a bit more as adviced.
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 227	Posted - 2015.01.11 17:23:00 - [14] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: First, heat has nothing to do with damage. How long you hold the trigger affects damage. (LR's damage is exponential unlike every other weapon in game) The LR is the ultimate mid-long (90-105) weapon. At these distances other weapons cannot out dps you. sorry bit i have to disagree on the range its more of i mid range anything over 80m its damage drop to about 30% i constantly get out dps by combat rifles and rail rifles Sir Dukey- If one person is smart he should be able to keep vehicle at bay but not destroy it unless its a stupid driver
LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1463	Posted - 2015.01.11 17:24:00 - [15] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: First, heat has nothing to do with damage. How long you hold the trigger affects damage. (LR's damage is exponential unlike every other weapon in game) The LR is the ultimate mid-long (90-105) weapon. At these distances other weapons cannot out dps you. Do not burst fire the laser. If you find a group of people bring it close to o.h (59 rounds on any suit other than amarr assault). After, let it cool down for a few milliseconds (if at lvl 5 LR) and release the last 41 rounds. Go into cover, rep up a bit, restart. When you are just engaging the enemy, you have to miss the first few rounds so your dps is higher by the time you reach armor. Since the profile is +20s/-20a the little misses can give you the jump on the person. Prefiring and abusing cover can keep you alive, and earn you the kill. Proficiency is a must (imho) the fewer rounds spent on shields, the higher the chance of you getting the kill (Prof 5 has saved me many times (as the kill was earned at O.H.).). If you must use the laser in close range, fire 59 rounds. Switch to your sidearm and from there pray. Since you have your anti-shield weapon (LR), your sidearm should be anti armor (Magsec, SMG). These are a few things i do to keep my cal assault a threat w/ the laser. High recharge + regs to keep me alive between cooldown periods. But i'm pretty sure these work with every LR user. ^ Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION 24	Posted - 2015.01.11 18:07:00 - [16] - Quote Pocket Rocket Girl wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: First, heat has nothing to do with damage. How long you hold the trigger affects damage. (LR's damage is exponential unlike every other weapon in game) The LR is the ultimate mid-long (90-105) weapon. At these distances other weapons cannot out dps you. sorry bit i have to disagree on the range its more of i mid range anything over 80m its damage drop to about 30% i constantly get out dps by combat rifles and rail rifles Optimal: 60-105 Effective: 110-105 After 110 the damage attenuation is too high; Becomes useless. I'm sorry but I believe you are incorrect. Check protofits information on the laser rifle please.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1672	Posted - 2015.01.11 18:38:00 - [17] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: i just put some points into it and its awful......please tell me i am doing something wrong. anyone who can use it please give me advice Your not going to get anywhere until you max it out ... then if your not Amarr commando or assault then your screwed and rightfully so but a lot of people don't know how to assault with a lasar and that's understandable but you have to think about the side arm . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
Twelve Guage Death Firm. 418	Posted - 2015.01.11 18:39:00 - [18] - Quote Short answer I don't. Sandwich maker LVL. 5 You've been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$. My like button is back. C:<
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 3061	Posted - 2015.01.11 18:45:00 - [19] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: i just put some points into it and its awful......please tell me i am doing something wrong. anyone who can use it please give me advice laser is all about "Heat buildup" I know, Duh? But it is different then the average players understanding of Heat in DUST. Heat on a Laser rifle is more your Damage Modifier.. The More Heat you have the more damage you are putting out. Cooking a laser rifle to half heat then moving it to a target at that point will near insta blap anything. Specially if it is a headshot. Laser is like performing a giant balancing act. Between Heat Build Up, Ammo consumption and your targets health.... And how to best mix those 3 for good results. This is why Lasers at one point where OP.... You Would pre heat a Viziam... then headshot a target and do over 1800 damage in 1 second... And the most a Proto suit had for health then was like 700 on a heavy.
LUGMOS Quafe Premium 1467	Posted - 2015.01.11 18:52:00 - [20] - Quote Bethhy wrote: laser is all about "Heat buildup" I know, Duh? But it is different then the average players understanding of Heat in DUST. Heat on a Laser rifle is more your Damage Modifier.. The More Heat you have the more damage you are putting out. Cooking a laser rifle to half heat then moving it to a target at that point will near insta blap anything. Specially if it is a headshot. Laser is like performing a giant balancing act. Between Heat Build Up, Ammo consumption and your targets health.... And how to best mix those 3 for good results. This is why Lasers at one point where OP.... You Would pre heat a Viziam... then headshot a target and do over 1800 damage in 1 second... And the most a Proto suit had for health then was like 700 on a heavy. This prettty much Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V

Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 230	Posted - 2015.01.11 19:34:00 - [21] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: Pocket Rocket Girl wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: First, heat has nothing to do with damage. How long you hold the trigger affects damage. (LR's damage is exponential unlike every other weapon in game) The LR is the ultimate mid-long (90-105) weapon. At these distances other weapons cannot out dps you. sorry bit i have to disagree on the range its more of i mid range anything over 80m its damage drop to about 30% i constantly get out dps by combat rifles and rail rifles Optimal: 60-105 Effective: 110-105 After 110 the damage attenuation is too high; Becomes useless. I'm sorry but I believe you are incorrect. Check protofits information on the laser rifle please. just because it looks good on paper doesn't mean that it actually works on the field that way. it could be that i am incorrect but with all of my experience with it , it seems that way. As far as i knew the lazer was supposed to be a long-mid range weapon. there have also been many times at 80m where it just doesn't deal damage ( lag, or latency could be the case) ive also noticed that some times the lazer will skip around when trying to ADS i enjoy the weapon a lot either way Sir Dukey- If one person is smart he should be able to keep vehicle at bay but not destroy it unless its a stupid driver
Nano Vyper 1	Posted - 2015.01.11 20:03:00 - [22] - Quote I normally use an enhanced or complex damage mod for my ELM just be sure your far enough away so it stays effective. IGÇÿd recommend using the magsec up close or use the smg "What a fucking idiot
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 650	Posted - 2015.01.11 20:53:00 - [23] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: laser rifle.....how do you use it? To unclog my toilet. AKA - StarVenger
Sequal's Back Les Desanusseurs 127	Posted - 2015.01.11 21:34:00 - [24] - Quote If you have amarr lvl5: shoot on the ground for the first 30 shots, then aim at your target til you have 20 shots left in your clip (just before overheating). The damages will be amazing, but you MUST carry nanohives ^^ Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 938	Posted - 2015.01.11 21:47:00 - [25] - Quote One of the easiest weapons to master if you can aim. A lot of the people here talk about the whole preheating stuff but that seems to only be effective on the Amarr Assault. If you are using a non Amarr Assualt suit then use the preheat trick on unaware targets. When there is multiple targets is when this weapon shines, don't even aim just be like the kid with the water gun and splash everyone. This gun is my all time favorite, and King of Kills and Assists. No one does it better than PIE Lasers4life "Jesus!" yelled the blues "No, my name is Forever"
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION 27	Posted - 2015.01.12 01:30:00 - [26] - Quote Pocket Rocket Girl wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: Pocket Rocket Girl wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: First, heat has nothing to do with damage. How long you hold the trigger affects damage. (LR's damage is exponential unlike every other weapon in game) The LR is the ultimate mid-long (90-105) weapon. At these distances other weapons cannot out dps you. sorry bit i have to disagree on the range its more of i mid range anything over 80m its damage drop to about 30% i constantly get out dps by combat rifles and rail rifles Optimal: 60-105 Effective: 110-105 After 110 the damage attenuation is too high; Becomes useless. I'm sorry but I believe you are incorrect. Check protofits information on the laser rifle please. just because it looks good on paper doesn't mean that it actually works on the field that way. it could be that i am incorrect but with all of my experience with it , it seems that way. As far as i knew the lazer was supposed to be a long-mid range weapon. there have also been many times at 80m where it just doesn't deal damage ( lag, or latency could be the case) ive also noticed that some times the lazer will skip around when trying to ADS i enjoy the weapon a lot either way I understand, i apologize for my ignorance. (paper != actual) From what I've been doing, i never notice a difference between 62 or 104 m. The ads is super sensitive though lol, i kneel down just cause of it
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1720	Posted - 2015.01.12 02:59:00 - [27] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: i just put some points into it and its awful......please tell me i am doing something wrong. anyone who can use it please give me advice Place in box. Mark box as "defective Amarr garbage" Set it in front of my sexy hologram lady. She looks down at the box. I shrug. "Sooooo sell it?" she says. "Whatever, I don't care just get rid of it." Go Here and vote! 1 like is 1 vote!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 16502	Posted - 2015.01.12 03:10:00 - [28] - Quote If I want to carve fillet of Minmatar I use my trusty ELM-7. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Mex-0 288	Posted - 2015.01.12 03:14:00 - [29] - Quote Run towards enemy and melee them to death. Works fine for me. "Thwack! Thwack!" ... "Woops, sorry Dave!"
PLAYSTTION Corrosive Synergy 457	Posted - 2015.01.12 03:17:00 - [30] - Quote taxi bastard wrote: i just put some points into it and its awful......please tell me i am doing something wrong. anyone who can use it please give me advice It is hard to aim and use at first and especially without Amarr Assault. Basically, -use damage mods -miss at first to build up heat then hit target -aim for high torso and head The LR is a kill assist generator so you will get few kills but it is fun and gets easier to use as you go. Gassault Calogi - Ranked #763 on the forums `- Open Beta Vet - 34mil sp - - Knifed 501stheadstrong`



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