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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:11:00 -
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Unfortunately, the scout nerf still still does'nt prevent them from camping by a CRU w/ their cloak engaged, poppin off blues left and right and taking first on the leaderboard. Seems scouts that can't play well w/the new changes have found away. And everbody wants to nerf heavies, what a joke.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4544
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:15:00 -
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Are you sure they're cloaked? I've seen a lot of SG Scouts camp hives and CRUs uncloaked, that's why. |
7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
255
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:18:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Are you sure they're cloaked? I've seen a lot of SG Scouts camp hives and CRUs uncloaked, that's why.
yes sir 100%
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10699
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:18:00 -
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That's why I always look around for a quick moment to see if I'm alone before I start moving. The spawn cloak lasts long enough to do a quick glance and then line up your shot before you decloak from your spawn. If I recall correctly, the decloak from a spawn doesn't have a firing delay compared to the decloak from the equipment.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10700
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:20:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Are you sure they're cloaked? I've seen a lot of SG Scouts camp hives and CRUs uncloaked, that's why. yes sir 100%
Do a sweep with the reticule while looking around to see if it turns red.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5404
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:27:00 -
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Perhaps he's waiting for someone else to help him hack. U always get ganked by 3 dudes when In hacking, whether I'm done or not. |
7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
256
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:31:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Are you sure they're cloaked? I've seen a lot of SG Scouts camp hives and CRUs uncloaked, that's why. yes sir 100% Do a sweep with the reticule while looking around to see if it turns red.
I do, I was fighting on high ground w/RR and would notice my blues trying to hack a CRU, but they would dissappear once threre. I did'nt have visual behind the CRU. So I went over there and swept the area, nothing. Then hack n killed. So I repeated step 1, nothing, go to hack and hear him decloaking, go to turn and he's coming out of a cloak sure enough.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10700
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:32:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Perhaps he's waiting for someone else to help him hack. U always get ganked by 3 dudes when In hacking, whether I'm done or not.
Oh! To hack the CRU? ****. I thought he was referring to the spawn campers. XD
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10700
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:34:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Are you sure they're cloaked? I've seen a lot of SG Scouts camp hives and CRUs uncloaked, that's why. yes sir 100% Do a sweep with the reticule while looking around to see if it turns red. I do, I was fighting on high ground w/RR and would notice my blues trying to hack a CRU, but they would dissappear once threre. I did'nt have visual behind the CRU. So I went over there and swept the area, nothing. Then hack n killed. So I repeated step 1, nothing, go to hack and hear him decloaking, go to turn and he's coming out of a cloak sure enough.
A lone merc won't be able to scan a CRU effectively. You need a buddy. Or you can spam some mass drivers around the area.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2763
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:36:00 -
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The correct response to this thread.
If this is the only QQ you have with scouts then they're fine. As a scout myself don't see myself as using an "easy-mode" suit and my stats have reflected that. I even think a slight buff to scout scanning is needed to give them a more dedicated EWar presence and not just be the "light-assault" they currently are.
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
256
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:39:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Are you sure they're cloaked? I've seen a lot of SG Scouts camp hives and CRUs uncloaked, that's why. yes sir 100% Do a sweep with the reticule while looking around to see if it turns red. I do, I was fighting on high ground w/RR and would notice my blues trying to hack a CRU, but they would dissappear once threre. I did'nt have visual behind the CRU. So I went over there and swept the area, nothing. Then hack n killed. So I repeated step 1, nothing, go to hack and hear him decloaking, go to turn and he's coming out of a cloak sure enough. A lone merc won't be able to scan a CRU effectively. You need a buddy. Or you can spam some mass drivers around the area.
I like the way you think.. Hear this scouts.... if you camp a CRU I'm going to wreck you...
Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10700
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:40:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:The correct response to this thread.If this is the only QQ you have with scouts then they're fine. As a scout myself don't see myself as using an "easy-mode" suit and my stats have reflected that. I even think a slight buff to scout scanning is needed to give them a more dedicated EWar presence and not just be the "light-assault" they currently are.
As it stands right now, scouts are no longer as effective as light-assaults as they use to be. If I wanted to go assault, I'd go all the way and cross train into the assault class.
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
256
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Posted - 2015.01.09 04:45:00 -
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Yea for sure, assault and heavy are my prof 5's
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
3017
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Posted - 2015.01.09 05:00:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:
I like the way you think.. Hear this scouts.... if you camp a CRU I'm going to wreck you...
Don't spawn at a CRU?
Anyone that plays this game for longer then a week learns that the spawn mechanics suck... and are extremely unforgiving..
Spawning on a CRU without a significant amount of team mates around is like rolling the dice with death.
Spawning on an objective no matter how long you have held it... without significant amount of team mates or direct communication from a squad... Is rolling the dice with Death.
Spawning on an Uplink again without previously stated circumstances is rolling the dice with Death.
Spawning in a Dropship with the way they work now means certain death.
Best to fit LAV's and factor the cost into your budget while running a heavy suit solo... You can spawn safetly in certain areas in the red-line then move from there... Otherwise join a squad with a logistics and ask them to run spawn pads and ofcourse keep an eye on them.
Lastly.... Make an scout alt... Try out the cloak... Learn how your hard counter to your preferred playstyle works... The disadvantages to running the cloak... The Shotgun... Maybe even nova knives?
Knowledge is power in DUST.... The more you know of the game and how to counter what you are facing... The more you gain the advantage on your opponents on the battlefield.. It would of definitely given you a competitive chance in this circumstance. |
7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
257
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Posted - 2015.01.09 05:09:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:
I like the way you think.. Hear this scouts.... if you camp a CRU I'm going to wreck you...
Don't spawn at a CRU? Anyone that plays this game for longer then a week learns that the spawn mechanics suck... and are extremely unforgiving.. Spawning on a CRU without a significant amount of team mates around is like rolling the dice with death. Spawning on an objective no matter how long you have held it... without significant amount of team mates or direct communication from a squad... Is rolling the dice with Death. Spawning on an Uplink again without previously stated circumstances is rolling the dice with Death. Spawning in a Dropship with the way they work now means certain death. Best to fit LAV's and factor the cost into your budget while running a heavy suit solo... You can spawn safetly in certain areas in the red-line then move from there... Otherwise join a squad with a logistics and ask them to run spawn pads and ofcourse keep an eye on them. Think you misunderstand me. I know all this. I needed to hack a CRU in a Dom match, so the enemy WOULD'NT spawn there and have us surrounded. The only thing I could have done was scan the area but I neglected that. Lastly.... Make an scout alt... Try out the cloak... Learn how your hard counter to your preferred playstyle works... The disadvantages to running the cloak... The Shotgun... Maybe even nova knives? Knowledge is power in DUST.... The more you know of the game and how to counter what you are facing... The more you gain the advantage on your opponents on the battlefield.. It would of definitely given you a competitive chance in this circumstance.
Conduct on the battlefield is the ultimate measure of a man
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
257
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Posted - 2015.01.09 05:45:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:
I like the way you think.. Hear this scouts.... if you camp a CRU I'm going to wreck you...
Don't spawn at a CRU? Anyone that plays this game for longer then a week learns that the spawn mechanics suck... and are extremely unforgiving.. Spawning on a CRU without a significant amount of team mates around is like rolling the dice with death. Spawning on an objective no matter how long you have held it... without significant amount of team mates or direct communication from a squad... Is rolling the dice with Death. Spawning on an Uplink again without previously stated circumstances is rolling the dice with Death. Spawning in a Dropship with the way they work now means certain death. Best to fit LAV's and factor the cost into your budget while running a heavy suit solo... You can spawn safetly in certain areas in the red-line then move from there... Otherwise join a squad with a logistics and ask them to run spawn pads and ofcourse keep an eye on them. Lastly.... Make an scout alt... Try out the cloak... Learn how your hard counter to your preferred playstyle works... The disadvantages to running the cloak... The Shotgun... Maybe even nova knives? Knowledge is power in DUST.... The more you know of the game and how to counter what you are facing... The more you gain the advantage on your opponents on the battlefield.. It would of definitely given you a competitive chance in this circumstance.
Sorry about that Bethhy, technical difficulties lol. Your thinking the wrong CRU. If you want, you can read a little further back in the thread, it should clear that up.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2847
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Posted - 2015.01.09 05:46:00 -
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Scouts will get me once, but rarely more than that (except in PC). Most are not that hard to counter. |
7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
257
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Posted - 2015.01.09 05:56:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Scouts will get me once, but rarely more than that (except in PC). Most are not that hard to counter.
Agreed, but if I find out a cloaked scout camping at a CRU popping my teammates in the back as they attempt to hack it, prepare to get wrecked
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
253
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Posted - 2015.01.09 06:28:00 -
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1 enhanced precision mod really helps
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Breakin Stuff
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
6239
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Posted - 2015.01.09 08:54:00 -
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If it weren't for the fact that any nerd with a popgun can spawncamp I might be inclined to care.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10702
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Posted - 2015.01.10 21:46:00 -
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An alternative to the mass driver spam is to have a buddy who has maxed out his Gallente Logistics and Active Scanners so that the cloaked scout (unless it's a Galscout) will light up on the TACNET.
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
717
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Posted - 2015.01.10 21:58:00 -
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The only annoying Scout I still find is the goddamned CalScout. I am seeing more and more of this CalScouts with more armor and shields than my Gallente Assault (388 armor)
Changes to Damage mods!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3485
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Posted - 2015.01.10 22:10:00 -
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I camp CRU's with my assault and heavy more than my scout.
You would complain if i did it to you with my assault, but then it would be a core mechanics problem versus a suit problem.
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
273
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Posted - 2015.01.10 22:15:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:I camp CRU's with my assault and heavy more than my scout.
You would complain if i did it to you with my assault, but then it would be a core mechanics problem versus a suit problem.
the only issue I have is the cloak camping, but truly, im not a whiner, cause I know there's a counter to everything in the game. just found it slightly distasteful and nothing more
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1628
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Posted - 2015.01.10 22:22:00 -
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Arseholes are going to camp CRUs. Doesn't matter if they're HMG Heavies, Blaster HAVs, Pythons or Shotgun Scouts. They're all arseholes, which is why they camp CRUs. Players being arseholes isn't a balance issue specific to any one class.
PS: A Scout must decloak before he can attack, and decloaking takes a full two seconds. |
7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
273
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Posted - 2015.01.10 22:26:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Arseholes are going to camp CRUs. Doesn't matter if they're HMG Heavies, Blaster HAVs, Pythons or Shotgun Scouts. They're all arseholes, which is why they camp CRUs. Being an ******** isn't a balance issue specific to any one class.
PS: A Scout must decloak before he can attack, and decloaking akes a full two seconds.
Like 2 whole seconds? daaammmnnn
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1628
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Posted - 2015.01.10 22:28:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Arseholes are going to camp CRUs. Doesn't matter if they're HMG Heavies, Blaster HAVs, Pythons or Shotgun Scouts. They're all arseholes, which is why they camp CRUs. Being an ******** isn't a balance issue specific to any one class.
PS: A Scout must decloak before he can attack, and decloaking akes a full two seconds.
Like 2 whole seconds? daaammmnnn
2 seconds is 3x - 4x the average scout's TTK. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10704
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Posted - 2015.01.10 23:39:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:The only annoying Scout I still find is the goddamned CalScout. I am seeing more and more of this CalScouts with more armor and shields than my Gallente Assault (388 armor)
A Galscout that tanks that much is only gimping itself. It's a precision and profile dampening suit first and foremost.
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
236
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Posted - 2015.01.11 02:26:00 -
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Your scan precision sucks. Invest SP into scan precision
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