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KILL3R H3LLH0UND
Agents of Twilight
137
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Posted - 2015.01.08 06:59:00 -
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I'm broke \o/
No matter what I do, I always hit rock bottom. I'm constantly getting my teeth kicked in. I'm a closed beta vet, yet I'm at 24.3M SP. I biomassed set the start of 1.7, and at this point, I may put my next paycheck 100% into dust! and start triple stacking omegas for a few months.
I'm forced to run solo because all my friends don't play anymore. I die nowadays, a lot. I have never managed to break over 25M ISK. I'm living DUST battle to battle, trying to scrounge up whatever ISK I can. I'm currently sitting with almost no assets, and a a few hundered grand. I started making BPO suits with Proto mods (don't worry, always under 20k a fit) and I'm breaking even/losing ISK every. Damn. Battle.
Essentially, I need to learn how to manage my cash. I need tips, pointers, donations, anything.
Hell, even a tactically organized squad would be nice. I'm sick and tired of nobody on my entire team running a needle (most of my fits have needles). I'm currently sitting here with max cores, maxed ARs, maxed Snipers (I've been sniping since beta, I'm one of those rare, useful snipers, my record was 81/0 with a charge back in Uprising 1.6) and level 5 swarms (no prof).
I have assault ck.0, Logistics mk.0, and starting to skill into My 'Sever' GalScout.
I don't even know what to do set this point...
(I refuse to run ambush. Period. Also, I'm not the biggest fan of fully BPO suits.
Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my CalAss
BPO collector.
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:05:00 -
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm broke \o/
No matter what I do, I always hit rock bottom. I'm constantly getting my teeth kicked in. I'm a closed beta vet, yet I'm at 24.3M SP. I biomassed set the start of 1.7, and at this point, I may put my next paycheck 100% into dust! and start triple stacking omegas for a few months.
I'm forced to run solo because all my friends don't play anymore. I die nowadays, a lot. I have never managed to break over 25M ISK. I'm living DUST battle to battle, trying to scrounge up whatever ISK I can. I'm currently sitting with almost no assets, and a a few hundered grand. I started making BPO suits with Proto mods (don't worry, always under 20k a fit) and I'm breaking even/losing ISK every. Damn. Battle.
Essentially, I need to learn how to manage my cash. I need tips, pointers, donations, anything.
Hell, even a tactically organized squad would be nice. I'm sick and tired of nobody on my entire team running a needle (most of my fits have needles). I'm currently sitting here with max cores, maxed ARs, maxed Snipers (I've been sniping since beta, I'm one of those rare, useful snipers, my record was 81/0 with a charge back in Uprising 1.6) and level 5 swarms (no prof).
I have assault ck.0, Logistics mk.0, and starting to skill into My 'Sever' GalScout.
I don't even know what to do set this point...
(I refuse to run ambush. Period. Also, I'm not the biggest fan of fully BPO suits.
Throw spawns so your team can be around you more. Squad up. |
KILL3R H3LLH0UND
Agents of Twilight
137
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:09:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm broke \o/
No matter what I do, I always hit rock bottom. I'm constantly getting my teeth kicked in. I'm a closed beta vet, yet I'm at 24.3M SP. I biomassed set the start of 1.7, and at this point, I may put my next paycheck 100% into dust! and start triple stacking omegas for a few months.
I'm forced to run solo because all my friends don't play anymore. I die nowadays, a lot. I have never managed to break over 25M ISK. I'm living DUST battle to battle, trying to scrounge up whatever ISK I can. I'm currently sitting with almost no assets, and a a few hundered grand. I started making BPO suits with Proto mods (don't worry, always under 20k a fit) and I'm breaking even/losing ISK every. Damn. Battle.
Essentially, I need to learn how to manage my cash. I need tips, pointers, donations, anything.
Hell, even a tactically organized squad would be nice. I'm sick and tired of nobody on my entire team running a needle (most of my fits have needles). I'm currently sitting here with max cores, maxed ARs, maxed Snipers (I've been sniping since beta, I'm one of those rare, useful snipers, my record was 81/0 with a charge back in Uprising 1.6) and level 5 swarms (no prof).
I have assault ck.0, Logistics mk.0, and starting to skill into My 'Sever' GalScout.
I don't even know what to do set this point...
(I refuse to run ambush. Period. Also, I'm not the biggest fan of fully BPO suits. Throw spawns so your team can be around you more. Squad up.
Where should I squad up? Squad finder is a joke, I'm in a hellueva lotta channels but nobody responds to my LFS.
I'm in
xMLx
Scouts United
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K PUB
Agents of Twilight (my corp channel)
_______(a private channel)
And a few more.
Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my CalAss
BPO collector.
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:11:00 -
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You could try posting under corp recruitment section. |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4994
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:14:00 -
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I've had 3mil-5mil for the past 3 months and I run proto constantly because I have nearing 70k is Amarr lp. My proto suits only cost 30k each :D
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:15:00 -
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I think Y.A.M.H.A is trying to push for players, don't know much about their exp tho |
KILL3R H3LLH0UND
Agents of Twilight
137
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:15:00 -
[7] - Quote
7th Son 7 wrote:You could try posting under corp recruitment section.
I don't want a corp. I want squads. I enjoy being in my own corp.
Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my CalAss
BPO collector.
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND
Agents of Twilight
137
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:16:00 -
[8] - Quote
I'm an amazing player, my gun game is hard to beat. The only thing limiting my is not having squads and not having enough SPto do what I need to do.
Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my CalAss
BPO collector.
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danthrax martin
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
263
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:19:00 -
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On the off chance, try LEARNING COALITION chat. What's your gaming time?
Pro Gal 'mando, Assault, Scout, Pro Sentinel ak.0
Suicidal A/V Moron
General pain in the @ss
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:19:00 -
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm an amazing player, my gun game is hard to beat. The only thing limiting my is not having squads and not having enough SPto do what I need to do.
So if your getting kills what else is earning you warpoints in your avg battle? |
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:21:00 -
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danthrax martin wrote:On the off chance, try LEARNING COALITION chat. What's your gaming time?
Bingo |
Vicious Minotaur
1759
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:27:00 -
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I have around 30 million on this account and... uh... in the nine-figure amount on my main.
I have no idea how people can hit rock bottom, or not be able to make ISK. My fits all are around 15-30k. I see my ISK amounts steadily go up when I actually find the time to play.
I've heard it said that Ambush is the way to go if you want the ISK, and Domination/Skirmish if you want the SP. From my limited experience with the cesspool that is Ambush, I think it is indeed the case... but I see you refuse Ambush (rightfully so).
Anyway, regardless of your inability to keep a stable wallet, your future looks bright. CPM SirManBoy (or something) and Rattati are forging ahead on ways to potentially improve ISK amounts made, via algorithm, salvage techniques, or super secret things I know nothing about.
I am a minotaur.
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Henrietta Unknown
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
745
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:49:00 -
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Kinda coping with the same things, but I've had more luck hitting up some laid-back AND competent squads.
Gotta spam that LFS.
Please buff my Magsex. It doesn't hit hard enough...
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The Infected One
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1411
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:53:00 -
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We squadded for quite a while here, not sure if it was today or yesterday (The days just bleed together when I'm on days off), Add me as a contact and I'll throw you an invite to one of our pub chats. We'll pick you up any time we have an open spot. o7
Edit: Send me a mail as well.
I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS?
--. . - + ..-. ..- -.-. -.- . -..
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
247
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Posted - 2015.01.08 07:59:00 -
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Dude i suck at this this game and I'm sitting on almost 110mil. I run suits around 20-30k. Make a decent 25k suit with r9 uplinks and profit. I'm not trying to be mean but you're doing something wrong.
Is it possible that you're more worried about killing than wp? I have 2 goals every game
1000+wp
go isk positive
Cheap suits with good passive skills rule
"In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane"
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The Eristic
Dust 90210
685
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Posted - 2015.01.08 08:10:00 -
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You sure you're not giving in and throwing a few protosuits at matches every now and then? Virtually all of my pub fits except a couple logis are under 8-20k (most frequently used are ~13k) and it's incredibly easy to make money, even in really bad matches.
Are your fittings optimized for isk efficiency? How much do those proto mods *really* help you? Most of the time, you can cut a few thousand by stepping down a tier (or even two) for most mods, as you'll find the sacrifice in performance less significant that you might think. Same with grenades (just run basic flux for most situations) and sidearms (well, everything but the Magsec).
Do you control your spawns, or do you respawn as close to the action as you can as soon as possible? There are generally ideal windows of time and locations for respawning, especially in tough matches, so try to identify them. Sometimes a link in an out-of-the-way place is a better choice than a closer option, as it gives you more control over how you're going to engage with the fight (which is especially important with a suit like the Cal Assault). Also, track your deaths vs WP/average position. If you're mostly landing in the middle of the board, 6-7 deaths in a 20k suit will drink your milkshake... that is, eat your income right up. You may need to respawn less incautiously, or, as above, make your go-to suits more isk efficient to buy yourself some breathing room.
Squadding up will definitely help, too. As mentioned, Learning Coalition is one of the better channels still around, ime.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
214
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Posted - 2015.01.08 08:28:00 -
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I just run Frontline suits to get back in the positive. And unless you are spending above your means like most of us do in real life you should never run out of ISK. I have close to 30 million ISK consistently and it felt like too much money so I gave some away and bought a lot of tanks and deployed as many as I could for my FW matches. I still have more than 5 million ISK now and I gave 1 million away today. I got the Tiger scout through grinding Min FW. Its very easy to make ISK unless you are not spending smart
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can kill me.
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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Michael Arck
6131
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Posted - 2015.01.08 08:40:00 -
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You need a session with dedicated cheap fits (no matter the turnout, you don't go proto. stay cheaply fit) and nothing but the good ol Ambush. You'll start to see a nice return. Try running those sessions for three days to make good fast cash.
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
49
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Posted - 2015.01.08 14:09:00 -
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm an amazing player, my gun game is hard to beat. The only thing limiting my is not having squads and not having enough SPto do what I need to do.
I have the same amount of SP, join T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K and you will constantly be competing for kills so you will get increasingly adapt at finishing your target before he is stolen.... I always go off by myself because my kills get stolen  . And If i were you I would never pull out that proto logi.......they are squishy enough to be basic/advanced assaults I run a basic ScR 90% of the time. So playing with me you can catch on to the tactics the best will use...seeing as how you are caldari you'll want to get a feel for your arch enemy (ScR). For example, when I am facing a ScR I do not poke out of cover I generally will jump out of cover because I know if they are charge shooting they have picked their spot to fire on via free aim, by jumping out you will force them to re adjust there aim or go for the shot mid jump. If they do fire at you there is a 5 sec window where you can be your most effective....I would say more but I don't want to write a guide on countering my favorite weapon lol. Join the darkside and you will have greater power.....and maybe some help with managing your isk.
Emperor Gucci
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
6336
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Posted - 2015.01.08 14:13:00 -
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Starter fittings. They aren't amazing, but they are great for making ISK.
If you are willing to run FW in starter fittings for a while in order to save up LP, you could buy one of the APEX dropsuits. They help with conserving ISK. If you have some spare cash, and don't mind the high price tag, you could just flat out buy an APEX.
Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley.
@Ripley_Riley
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castba
Rogue Instincts
685
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Posted - 2015.01.08 14:53:00 -
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Get a bpo sentinel. Amarr or Gal. Stack plates. Join Heavy/Logi Funzone channel. Join squad. Profit.
Alternatively run a min logi with decent rep tool (they are always in demand in there). Profit in ways you couldn't imagine. HINT: you can easily get good repper and needle on a basic min logi.
"When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
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taxi bastard
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
284
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Posted - 2015.01.08 15:33:00 -
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm broke \o/
No matter what I do, I always hit rock bottom. I'm constantly getting my teeth kicked in. I'm a closed beta vet, yet I'm at 24.3M SP. I biomassed set the start of 1.7, and at this point, I may put my next paycheck 100% into dust! and start triple stacking omegas for a few months.
I'm forced to run solo because all my friends don't play anymore. I die nowadays, a lot. I have never managed to break over 25M ISK. I'm living DUST battle to battle, trying to scrounge up whatever ISK I can. I'm currently sitting with almost no assets, and a a few hundered grand. I started making BPO suits with Proto mods (don't worry, always under 20k a fit) and I'm breaking even/losing ISK every. Damn. Battle.
Essentially, I need to learn how to manage my cash. I need tips, pointers, donations, anything.
Hell, even a tactically organized squad would be nice. I'm sick and tired of nobody on my entire team running a needle (most of my fits have needles). I'm currently sitting here with max cores, maxed ARs, maxed Snipers (I've been sniping since beta, I'm one of those rare, useful snipers, my record was 81/0 with a charge back in Uprising 1.6) and level 5 swarms (no prof).
I have assault ck.0, Logistics mk.0, and starting to skill into My 'Sever' GalScout.
I don't even know what to do set this point...
(I refuse to run ambush. Period. Also, I'm not the biggest fan of fully BPO suits.
i am a solo bro, but i make lots of isk.
with your skills
use a basic mini logi bro - first life drop 6 uplinks, next life uplink needle and reptool.
if lots of uplinks are still running don't go into the assault suit or some will go.
think about a commando ........ vehicles make good WP's with the swarms |
Mister Goo
Random Gunz
RISE of LEGION
140
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Posted - 2015.01.08 15:59:00 -
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My cheap suit for ambush ISK farming.
Sever Min Logi BPO
2xmilitia shield BPO
2Xmilitia armor plate BPO
exile assault rifle BPO
Flux BPO
BPO needle, BPO link, and BPO repair tool.
8000isk BDR8 repair 1 stream 70 hp or 13000 is gets you the Focus repair tool 2 streams at 70hp each
I normally use the focus and consistently make isk.
Closed Beta Vet
Minmatar Logistics I Repair, Revive, and Replenish. Leave the slaying for Assaults and Heavies.
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND
Agents of Twilight
138
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Posted - 2015.01.08 16:05:00 -
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i'm always breaking 1k war points a game. Either I'm killing people left and right, or I'm sitting with my gal scout Wyrikomi fit. I don't run logo usually, and I seldom use anything but a basic needle (Even my assault ck.0 has a basic needle to pick up green berries.
(And yeah, I toss in a pro to every now and then :P)
Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my CalAss
BPO collector.
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LUGMOS
Quafe Premium
1395
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Posted - 2015.01.08 16:06:00 -
[25] - Quote
Quafe A-1(any BPO dropsuit works)
PLC
Flaylock
Kinkat
Armor rep
Precision enhancer
AV nades
You'll get good at picking targets and not getting into st00pit engagements, so you'll tend to not die a ton once you get decent with the PLC. As a beginner, just use the PLC as a flux and use the flaylock as the finisher.
Also, I'll try adding you whenever I get on. I tend to see you in Scouts United a lot. It'll only be me and you though.
Official QuafeGäó Advocate
Anti-FoTM Prof. V
Forum Scavenger Prof. V
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
1451
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Posted - 2015.01.08 16:24:00 -
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Can't quote; too long. The one where you list your channels and say how nobody responds.
So I guess it was just my imagination that we squadded with you JUST YESTERDAY. 
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Join 'T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K PUB' channel
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
1451
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Posted - 2015.01.08 16:28:00 -
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I'm really surprised that you're broke. Use STD. Unless you die, like, 20-30 times, you will make a profit. Hell, use all ADV, and you should be able to make a profit unless you die, like, 6-7 times. I assume you are not dying 7 times in a match consistently.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Join 'T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K PUB' channel
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
1451
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Posted - 2015.01.08 16:30:00 -
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm an amazing player, my gun game is hard to beat.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Join 'T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K PUB' channel
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
425
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Posted - 2015.01.08 16:32:00 -
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The problem is no-one wants to squad with him cause he's a cocky arrogant *****. Constantly talking about how great he is then going 4/6 running all proto while demanding he be squad lead. Humble yourself, get gud and maybe people will squad with you again....
Robin Williams endorses this corp
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
427
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Posted - 2015.01.08 16:43:00 -
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And constantly begging for isk too....
Robin Williams endorses this corp
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Duke Noobiam
The Dukes of Death
329
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Posted - 2015.01.08 16:48:00 -
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm broke \o/
No matter what I do, I always hit rock bottom. I'm constantly getting my teeth kicked in. I'm a closed beta vet, yet I'm at 24.3M SP. I biomassed set the start of 1.7, and at this point, I may put my next paycheck 100% into dust! and start triple stacking omegas for a few months.
I'm forced to run solo because all my friends don't play anymore. I die nowadays, a lot. I have never managed to break over 25M ISK. I'm living DUST battle to battle, trying to scrounge up whatever ISK I can. I'm currently sitting with almost no assets, and a a few hundered grand. I started making BPO suits with Proto mods (don't worry, always under 20k a fit) and I'm breaking even/losing ISK every. Damn. Battle.
Essentially, I need to learn how to manage my cash. I need tips, pointers, donations, anything.
Hell, even a tactically organized squad would be nice. I'm sick and tired of nobody on my entire team running a needle (most of my fits have needles). I'm currently sitting here with max cores, maxed ARs, maxed Snipers (I've been sniping since beta, I'm one of those rare, useful snipers, my record was 81/0 with a charge back in Uprising 1.6) and level 5 swarms (no prof).
I have assault ck.0, Logistics mk.0, and starting to skill into My 'Sever' GalScout.
I don't even know what to do set this point...
(I refuse to run ambush. Period. Also, I'm not the biggest fan of fully BPO suits.
Here are 2 things that I did that helped me resolve my ISK issues.
1. Buy an APEX bpo and run it regularly.
2. Occasionally buy a combat pack for $4.99. |
CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
1867
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Posted - 2015.01.08 16:55:00 -
[32] - Quote
NO, don't give into it, DUST has a failed freemium model, you're not SUPPOSED to get anywhere without pumping real money into it, you get to a certain point and you're broke.
Working as intended.
¦¥DUST VIDEOS¦¥
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Forlorn Destrier
Incorruptibles
3171
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Posted - 2015.01.08 16:59:00 -
[33] - Quote
KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm broke \o/
No matter what I do, I always hit rock bottom. I'm constantly getting my teeth kicked in. I'm a closed beta vet, yet I'm at 24.3M SP. I biomassed set the start of 1.7, and at this point, I may put my next paycheck 100% into dust! and start triple stacking omegas for a few months.
I'm forced to run solo because all my friends don't play anymore. I die nowadays, a lot. I have never managed to break over 25M ISK. I'm living DUST battle to battle, trying to scrounge up whatever ISK I can. I'm currently sitting with almost no assets, and a a few hundered grand. I started making BPO suits with Proto mods (don't worry, always under 20k a fit) and I'm breaking even/losing ISK every. Damn. Battle.
Essentially, I need to learn how to manage my cash. I need tips, pointers, donations, anything.
Hell, even a tactically organized squad would be nice. I'm sick and tired of nobody on my entire team running a needle (most of my fits have needles). I'm currently sitting here with max cores, maxed ARs, maxed Snipers (I've been sniping since beta, I'm one of those rare, useful snipers, my record was 81/0 with a charge back in Uprising 1.6) and level 5 swarms (no prof).
I have assault ck.0, Logistics mk.0, and starting to skill into My 'Sever' GalScout.
I don't even know what to do set this point...
(I refuse to run ambush. Period. Also, I'm not the biggest fan of fully BPO suits.
I know you don't like them, but... Make full BPO suits, instead of using ISK mods. then you get 100% ISK profit each match. Requires spending some real life money though, if you don't have the BPO mods yet.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
1456
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Posted - 2015.01.08 17:01:00 -
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1. Make alt.
2. Farm Academy.
3. ???
4. Profit.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Join 'T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K PUB' channel
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Sir Petersen
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1093
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Posted - 2015.01.08 17:05:00 -
[35] - Quote
Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:1. Make alt. 2. Farm Academy. 3. ??? 4. Profit.
Yeah.. This is just what we need to attract new gamers to play Dust.. I sometimes wonder if people like you were born to lose.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
1456
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Posted - 2015.01.08 17:06:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:1. Make alt. 2. Farm Academy. 3. ??? 4. Profit. Yeah.. This is just what we need to attract new gamers to play Dust.. I sometimes wonder if people like you were born to lose.
lol I knew someone would post something like that.
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:1. Make alt. 2. Farm Academy. 3. ??? 4. Profit. Yeah.. This is just what we need to attract new gamers to play Dust.. I sometimes wonder if people like you were born to lose. lol I knew someone would post something like that.
He got wrecked in the academy by someone and is still a little butt hurt.
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D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1092
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robin williams' ghost wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:1. Make alt. 2. Farm Academy. 3. ??? 4. Profit. Yeah.. This is just what we need to attract new gamers to play Dust.. I sometimes wonder if people like you were born to lose. lol I knew someone would post something like that. He got wrecked in the academy by someone and is still a little butt hurt.
I actually never got anything at the academy as I am one of the Dust Beta people. We didn-¦t have it back then. Also. When I think of it.. I can-¦t remember ever getting wrecked when playing this game.
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Sir Petersen
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1092
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And by the way.
The best way to earn ISK is to dress up in milita, go shooting and improve your skills while doing it. It doesn-¦t even take that long.. Do like 3 mills a day for 10 days and before you know it you are a millionaire.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
1463
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Posted - 2015.01.08 17:22:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:1. Make alt. 2. Farm Academy. 3. ??? 4. Profit. Yeah.. This is just what we need to attract new gamers to play Dust.. I sometimes wonder if people like you were born to lose. lol I knew someone would post something like that. He got wrecked in the academy by someone and is still a little butt hurt. I actually never got anything at the academy as I am one of the Dust Beta people. We didn-¦t have it back then. Also. When I think of it.. I can-¦t remember ever getting wrecked when playing this game.
So you've never been stomped. Ever.
I call BS.
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B.A.L.A.M.O.R.Y. G.L.O.R.Y.
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm broke \o/
No matter what I do, I always hit rock bottom. I'm constantly getting my teeth kicked in. I'm a closed beta vet, yet I'm at 24.3M SP. I biomassed set the start of 1.7, and at this point, I may put my next paycheck 100% into dust! and start triple stacking omegas for a few months.
I'm forced to run solo because all my friends don't play anymore. I die nowadays, a lot. I have never managed to break over 25M ISK. I'm living DUST battle to battle, trying to scrounge up whatever ISK I can. I'm currently sitting with almost no assets, and a a few hundered grand. I started making BPO suits with Proto mods (don't worry, always under 20k a fit) and I'm breaking even/losing ISK every. Damn. Battle.
Essentially, I need to learn how to manage my cash. I need tips, pointers, donations, anything.
Hell, even a tactically organized squad would be nice. I'm sick and tired of nobody on my entire team running a needle (most of my fits have needles). I'm currently sitting here with max cores, maxed ARs, maxed Snipers (I've been sniping since beta, I'm one of those rare, useful snipers, my record was 81/0 with a charge back in Uprising 1.6) and level 5 swarms (no prof).
I have assault ck.0, Logistics mk.0, and starting to skill into My 'Sever' GalScout.
I don't even know what to do set this point...
(I refuse to run ambush. Period. Also, I'm not the biggest fan of fully BPO suits.
IMO you need to completely optimize your skills, having 2 proto suits isn't the way to do it. I recommend a respec and focusing on learning the ins and outs of a single suit first.
Edit: This is because of the amount of skill points you have. I only have 25m and I still have to patch up some holes I have in my skill tree to finish optimizing my proto assault.
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LUGMOS
Quafe Premium
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Posted - 2015.01.08 17:29:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: So you've never been stomped. Ever. I call BS.
Must be one of those 1337 stompers that when they encounter resistance, leave the battle.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
615
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My Spidey senses are tingling.
I'm sensing a pity thread isk-scam trolling in progress.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5400
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Flint Beastgood III
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
1236
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LOL, if you're THAT good you don't need a squad.
When I have to play solo, I join a game and USE TEAM CHAT to find a squad with an empty spot. Finding a good squad this way can sometimes take a fair few matches (plenty of nooby SLs and squads in general with no mics and no coordination) but is worth trying.
Forget squad finder unless you want to spend time hopping from one to another trying to find a SL that's not silent and/or AFK. Most public-squad leaders tend to leave squads without taking them off the finder and/or changing the squad name, leaving some random noob in charge (way to go!), so you can rarely trust the squad name or the squad, and thus the finder itself.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5400
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Tweaksz wrote:KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm broke \o/
No matter what I do, I always hit rock bottom. I'm constantly getting my teeth kicked in. I'm a closed beta vet, yet I'm at 24.3M SP. I biomassed set the start of 1.7, and at this point, I may put my next paycheck 100% into dust! and start triple stacking omegas for a few months.
I'm forced to run solo because all my friends don't play anymore. I die nowadays, a lot. I have never managed to break over 25M ISK. I'm living DUST battle to battle, trying to scrounge up whatever ISK I can. I'm currently sitting with almost no assets, and a a few hundered grand. I started making BPO suits with Proto mods (don't worry, always under 20k a fit) and I'm breaking even/losing ISK every. Damn. Battle.
Essentially, I need to learn how to manage my cash. I need tips, pointers, donations, anything.
Hell, even a tactically organized squad would be nice. I'm sick and tired of nobody on my entire team running a needle (most of my fits have needles). I'm currently sitting here with max cores, maxed ARs, maxed Snipers (I've been sniping since beta, I'm one of those rare, useful snipers, my record was 81/0 with a charge back in Uprising 1.6) and level 5 swarms (no prof).
I have assault ck.0, Logistics mk.0, and starting to skill into My 'Sever' GalScout.
I don't even know what to do set this point...
(I refuse to run ambush. Period. Also, I'm not the biggest fan of fully BPO suits. IMO you need to completely optimize your skills, having 2 proto suits isn't the way to do it. I recommend a respec and focusing on learning the ins and outs of a single suit first. Edit: This is because of the amount of skill points you have. I only have 25m and I still have to patch up some holes I have in my skill tree to finish optimizing my proto assault.
That's boring. |
XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
25
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Posted - 2015.01.08 18:28:00 -
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm broke \o/
No matter what I do, I always hit rock bottom. I'm constantly getting my teeth kicked in. I'm a closed beta vet, yet I'm at 24.3M SP. I biomassed set the start of 1.7, and at this point, I may put my next paycheck 100% into dust! and start triple stacking omegas for a few months.
I'm forced to run solo because all my friends don't play anymore. I die nowadays, a lot. I have never managed to break over 25M ISK. I'm living DUST battle to battle, trying to scrounge up whatever ISK I can. I'm currently sitting with almost no assets, and a a few hundered grand. I started making BPO suits with Proto mods (don't worry, always under 20k a fit) and I'm breaking even/losing ISK every. Damn. Battle.
Essentially, I need to learn how to manage my cash. I need tips, pointers, donations, anything.
Hell, even a tactically organized squad would be nice. I'm sick and tired of nobody on my entire team running a needle (most of my fits have needles). I'm currently sitting here with max cores, maxed ARs, maxed Snipers (I've been sniping since beta, I'm one of those rare, useful snipers, my record was 81/0 with a charge back in Uprising 1.6) and level 5 swarms (no prof).
I have assault ck.0, Logistics mk.0, and starting to skill into My 'Sever' GalScout.
I don't even know what to do set this point...
(I refuse to run ambush. Period. Also, I'm not the biggest fan of fully BPO suits.
There is a point in Dust where you have to use STD suits no matter even if they suck. STD suits will always give you a positive profit and dying will not cost you much, however there is an alternative and that is getting into a PC corp that wins a lot.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
1488
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Posted - 2015.01.08 18:29:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I have the same problem when it comes to squads.
Maybe you wouldn't have that problem if you weren't in a 3(?)-man corp...
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
26
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm broke \o/
No matter what I do, I always hit rock bottom. I'm constantly getting my teeth kicked in. I'm a closed beta vet, yet I'm at 24.3M SP. I biomassed set the start of 1.7, and at this point, I may put my next paycheck 100% into dust! and start triple stacking omegas for a few months.
I'm forced to run solo because all my friends don't play anymore. I die nowadays, a lot. I have never managed to break over 25M ISK. I'm living DUST battle to battle, trying to scrounge up whatever ISK I can. I'm currently sitting with almost no assets, and a a few hundered grand. I started making BPO suits with Proto mods (don't worry, always under 20k a fit) and I'm breaking even/losing ISK every. Damn. Battle.
Essentially, I need to learn how to manage my cash. I need tips, pointers, donations, anything.
Hell, even a tactically organized squad would be nice. I'm sick and tired of nobody on my entire team running a needle (most of my fits have needles). I'm currently sitting here with max cores, maxed ARs, maxed Snipers (I've been sniping since beta, I'm one of those rare, useful snipers, my record was 81/0 with a charge back in Uprising 1.6) and level 5 swarms (no prof).
I have assault ck.0, Logistics mk.0, and starting to skill into My 'Sever' GalScout.
I don't even know what to do set this point...
(I refuse to run ambush. Period. Also, I'm not the biggest fan of fully BPO suits. Throw spawns so your team can be around you more. Squad up. Where should I squad up? Squad finder is a joke, I'm in a hellueva lotta channels but nobody responds to my LFS. I'm in xMLx Scouts United T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K PUB Agents of Twilight (my corp channel) _______(a private channel) And a few more.
Here are a few rooms that will respond to your LFS.
Matari Control: Min FW, highly recommended as they win a lot
Chosen Matari: Same thing as above
Y.A.M.A.H and friends pub: My corps pub channel we will always be happy to squad up and we are not restricted to any type of match, and if you want to get into a PC just ask us and we'll be happy to reserve a spot for you if there is room.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
26
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Posted - 2015.01.08 18:33:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:I think Y.A.M.H.A is trying to push for players, don't know much about their exp tho
That would be Y.A.M.A.H to you good sir, and we aren't trying we are doing as we currently have almost 100 players in since we started about 5 months ago.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
26
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Posted - 2015.01.08 18:36:00 -
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All Gucci wrote:KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm an amazing player, my gun game is hard to beat. The only thing limiting my is not having squads and not having enough SPto do what I need to do. I have the same amount of SP, join T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K and you will constantly be competing for kills so you will get increasingly adapt at finishing your target before he is stolen.... I always go off by myself because my kills get stolen . And If i were you I would never pull out that proto logi.......they are squishy enough to be basic/advanced assaults I run a basic ScR 90% of the time. So playing with me you can catch on to the tactics the best will use...seeing as how you are caldari you'll want to get a feel for your arch enemy (ScR). For example, when I am facing a ScR I do not poke out of cover I generally will jump out of cover because I know if they are charge shooting they have picked their spot to fire on via free aim, by jumping out you will force them to re adjust there aim or go for the shot mid jump. If they do fire at you there is a 5 sec window where you can be your most effective....I would say more but I don't want to write a guide on countering my favorite weapon lol. Join the darkside and you will have greater power.....and maybe some help with managing your isk.
Did you really not just hear that he's not looking for a corp.
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
574
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Posted - 2015.01.08 18:45:00 -
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm broke \o/
No matter what I do, I always hit rock bottom. I'm constantly getting my teeth kicked in. I'm a closed beta vet, yet I'm at 24.3M SP. I biomassed set the start of 1.7, and at this point, I may put my next paycheck 100% into dust! and start triple stacking omegas for a few months.
I'm forced to run solo because all my friends don't play anymore. I die nowadays, a lot. I have never managed to break over 25M ISK. I'm living DUST battle to battle, trying to scrounge up whatever ISK I can. I'm currently sitting with almost no assets, and a a few hundered grand. I started making BPO suits with Proto mods (don't worry, always under 20k a fit) and I'm breaking even/losing ISK every. Damn. Battle.
Essentially, I need to learn how to manage my cash. I need tips, pointers, donations, anything.
Hell, even a tactically organized squad would be nice. I'm sick and tired of nobody on my entire team running a needle (most of my fits have needles). I'm currently sitting here with max cores, maxed ARs, maxed Snipers (I've been sniping since beta, I'm one of those rare, useful snipers, my record was 81/0 with a charge back in Uprising 1.6) and level 5 swarms (no prof).
I have assault ck.0, Logistics mk.0, and starting to skill into My 'Sever' GalScout.
I don't even know what to do set this point...
(I refuse to run ambush. Period. Also, I'm not the biggest fan of fully BPO suits.
First questions are;
A. What's the average cost of your loadouts?
B. Average number of deaths per game?
C.Average ISK income per game?
A * B = X
if X>C = you're doing it wrong
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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Flint Beastgood III
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
1237
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Posted - 2015.01.08 18:47:00 -
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taxi bastard wrote:
use a basic mini logi bro - first life drop 6 uplinks, next life uplink needle and reptool.
6 Uplinks from a basic min logi? Fail post.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
26
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Posted - 2015.01.08 18:49:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:taxi bastard wrote:
use a basic mini logi bro - first life drop 6 uplinks, next life uplink needle and reptool.
6 Uplinks from a basic min logi? Fail post.
He's probably using ADV uplinks but I wouldn't know since I use an assault
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Indy Strizer
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
241
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Posted - 2015.01.08 19:38:00 -
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Nearly all of my fits are only about 5,000 ISK and all the others go no more higher than 15,000 except one...
Use BPO's.
Use militia.
Make a completely free fit that is dependable.
Note: Mine is a Raven Assault C-1. It has 2 militia shield extenders, 1 militia shield recharger, 1 militia shield regulator, a militia locus grenade, a militia drop uplink, Exile AR and Toxin SMG.
Everything has a cost, even using free gear.
Being expensive doesn't equate to being valuable.
No matter what tier of gear you're using, sometimes your team sucks and you're going to lose.
Learn what counters what and create a cheap fit for every situation.
Some examples from personal experience-
- Viziam Flux Uplinks on a STD Logistics- 13,000 ISK
- Militia Caldari Heavy Frame with a Militia Forge Gun to take out entrenched heavies- 2,000 ISK
- STD Caldari Commando with a Miltia Assault Rail Rifle and Militia Rail Rifle with Militia Damage Mods to pick people off. 5,000 ISK
- STD Active Scanners show your results to the entire team, alerting them of bum rushes. Blue dots get less stupid.
- STD Caldari Logistics with STD + ADV Proximity Explosives and STD Packed AV Grenades. 13,000 ISK
- STD Caldari Scout with 2 Complex Precision Mods and 1 Complex Range Mod to pick up most scouts- 18,000 ISK
Review your fits, slash unnecessary expenses.
Review your playing style, accommodate with better gear accordingly- sometimes you need that prototype module.
- If you're dying really quickly. Try a cheap fit that focuses less on survivability and more on gank or firepower.
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All Gucci
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
51
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Posted - 2015.01.10 00:36:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:All Gucci wrote:KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm an amazing player, my gun game is hard to beat. The only thing limiting my is not having squads and not having enough SPto do what I need to do. I have the same amount of SP, join T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K and you will constantly be competing for kills so you will get increasingly adapt at finishing your target before he is stolen.... I always go off by myself because my kills get stolen . And If i were you I would never pull out that proto logi.......they are squishy enough to be basic/advanced assaults I run a basic ScR 90% of the time. So playing with me you can catch on to the tactics the best will use...seeing as how you are caldari you'll want to get a feel for your arch enemy (ScR). For example, when I am facing a ScR I do not poke out of cover I generally will jump out of cover because I know if they are charge shooting they have picked their spot to fire on via free aim, by jumping out you will force them to re adjust there aim or go for the shot mid jump. If they do fire at you there is a 5 sec window where you can be your most effective....I would say more but I don't want to write a guide on countering my favorite weapon lol. Join the darkside and you will have greater power.....and maybe some help with managing your isk. Did you really not just hear that he's not looking for a corp.
I gave him the option to learn how to manage isk and get better, why you so booty hurt?
Emperor Gucci
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND
Agents of Twilight
154
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Posted - 2015.01.10 05:26:00 -
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Tweaksz wrote:KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:I'm broke \o/
No matter what I do, I always hit rock bottom. I'm constantly getting my teeth kicked in. I'm a closed beta vet, yet I'm at 24.3M SP. I biomassed set the start of 1.7, and at this point, I may put my next paycheck 100% into dust! and start triple stacking omegas for a few months.
I'm forced to run solo because all my friends don't play anymore. I die nowadays, a lot. I have never managed to break over 25M ISK. I'm living DUST battle to battle, trying to scrounge up whatever ISK I can. I'm currently sitting with almost no assets, and a a few hundered grand. I started making BPO suits with Proto mods (don't worry, always under 20k a fit) and I'm breaking even/losing ISK every. Damn. Battle.
Essentially, I need to learn how to manage my cash. I need tips, pointers, donations, anything.
Hell, even a tactically organized squad would be nice. I'm sick and tired of nobody on my entire team running a needle (most of my fits have needles). I'm currently sitting here with max cores, maxed ARs, maxed Snipers (I've been sniping since beta, I'm one of those rare, useful snipers, my record was 81/0 with a charge back in Uprising 1.6) and level 5 swarms (no prof).
I have assault ck.0, Logistics mk.0, and starting to skill into My 'Sever' GalScout.
I don't even know what to do set this point...
(I refuse to run ambush. Period. Also, I'm not the biggest fan of fully BPO suits. IMO you need to completely optimize your skills, having 2 proto suits isn't the way to do it. I recommend a respec and focusing on learning the ins and outs of a single suit first. Edit: This is because of the amount of skill points you have. I only have 25m and I still have to patch up some holes I have in my skill tree to finish optimizing my proto assault.
I did respec on day one. I got myself maxed cores, max ARs, and my ck.0 and Mk.0
Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my CalAss
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demonkiller 12
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
431
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Posted - 2015.01.10 07:42:00 -
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KILL3R H3LLH0UND wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:You could try posting under corp recruitment section. I don't want a corp. I want squads. I enjoy being in my own corp.
no one wants to be with a random corp, id probably kick you from squad if i saw you were in a random dorp, playing solo in this game just doesnt work |
demonkiller 12
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
431
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Posted - 2015.01.10 07:46:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:I have around 30 million on this account and... uh... in the nine-figure amount on my main.
I have no idea how people can hit rock bottom, or not be able to make ISK. My fits all are around 15-30k. I see my ISK amounts steadily go up when I actually find the time to play.
I've heard it said that Ambush is the way to go if you want the ISK, and Domination/Skirmish if you want the SP. From my limited experience with the cesspool that is Ambush, I think it is indeed the case... but I see you refuse Ambush (rightfully so).
Anyway, regardless of your inability to keep a stable wallet, your future looks bright. CPM SirManBoy (or something) and Rattati are forging ahead on ways to potentially improve ISK amounts made, via algorithm, salvage techniques, or super secret things I know nothing about.
I know right, never understoon it, since I got my shaman suit I just run that all day, making around 15mil a day steadily, think i need the dominus next and then the ammar assault and gal logi |
KILL3R H3LLH0UND
Agents of Twilight
155
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Posted - 2015.01.11 00:12:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:I have around 30 million on this account and... uh... in the nine-figure amount on my main.
I have no idea how people can hit rock bottom, or not be able to make ISK. My fits all are around 15-30k. I see my ISK amounts steadily go up when I actually find the time to play.
I've heard it said that Ambush is the way to go if you want the ISK, and Domination/Skirmish if you want the SP. From my limited experience with the cesspool that is Ambush, I think it is indeed the case... but I see you refuse Ambush (rightfully so).
Anyway, regardless of your inability to keep a stable wallet, your future looks bright. CPM SirManBoy (or something) and Rattati are forging ahead on ways to potentially improve ISK amounts made, via algorithm, salvage techniques, or super secret things I know nothing about. I know right, never understoon it, since I got my shaman suit I just run that all day, making around 15mil a day steadily, think i need the dominus next and then the ammar assault and gal logi
I need one of those then. 15M a day... damn
Master Scout Trainer, been falling in love with my CalAss
BPO collector.
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