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Dreis Shadowweaver
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When I was gazing at the Starmap, I noticed that Besateoden in Molden Heath is mainly controlled by corps that only have one member. I can only assume that they are used for ISK-farming(?). These corps have held these districts for months. Why does nobody attack them? And why does Cap own 40%?
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Grand Master Kubo wrote:Why don't you attack them and find out?
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Grand Master Kubo wrote:Why don't you attack them and find out?
I know right. It's stressful attacking corporations that you've never heard of. Attacking a corp with only one member will almost always result in an enemy team of A-listers but some of them are probably owned by smaller corporations. Is it worth 50mil to most likely get stomped? What I want to see is is removal of the Nyain San districts. Cap actually uses their districts for attacks while Nyain has been sitting on inactive districts for a year.
The brave corps have attempted to take Nyain's districts by getting up super early for the Asian timers but even then Nyain puts together a team of ringers that can actually win. Why do people ring for Nyain? Do you not realize that they are literally a cancer for this game. They have effectively infinite ISK due to the old passive farming and as a result run full proto squads in pubs killing off any potential new player base.
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But seriously, what's the deal with Besateoden?
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Grand Master Kubo wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Grand Master Kubo wrote:Why don't you attack them and find out? I know right. It's stressful attacking corporations that you've never heard of. Attacking a corp with only one member will almost always result in an enemy team of A-listers but some of them are probably owned by smaller corporations. Is it worth 50mil to most likely get stomped? What I want to see is is removal of the Nyain San districts. Cap actually uses their districts for attacks while Nyain has been sitting on inactive districts for a year. The brave corps have attempted to take Nyain's districts by getting up super early for the Asian timers but even then Nyain puts together a team of ringers that can actually win. Why do people ring for Nyain? Do you not realize that they are literally a cancer for this game. They have effectively infinite ISK due to the old passive farming and as a result run full proto squads in pubs killing off any potential new player base. I am not a fan.
Nyain is a bunch of really cool guys. And that was a nice fail mass attack against them last time. Dust has no incentive whether in pubs or pc.
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Grand Master Kubo wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Grand Master Kubo wrote:Why don't you attack them and find out? I know right. It's stressful attacking corporations that you've never heard of. Attacking a corp with only one member will almost always result in an enemy team of A-listers but some of them are probably owned by smaller corporations. Is it worth 50mil to most likely get stomped? What I want to see is is removal of the Nyain San districts. Cap actually uses their districts for attacks while Nyain has been sitting on inactive districts for a year. The brave corps have attempted to take Nyain's districts by getting up super early for the Asian timers but even then Nyain puts together a team of ringers that can actually win. Why do people ring for Nyain? Do you not realize that they are literally a cancer for this game. They have effectively infinite ISK due to the old passive farming and as a result run full proto squads in pubs killing off any potential new player base. I am not a fan. Nyain is a bunch of really cool guys. And that was a nice fail mass attack against them last time. Dust has no incentive whether in pubs or pc.
You ring for them right? How active are they? How many Nyain do they field? How often do they attack or defend? |
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If a corp were to attack one of these districts (iirc one of them was called 'This district is worth more than your village'), what would happen? Who would fight? Would it be a no-show? I can't imagine all these districts being defended by ringers for months - something shady or prearranged is definitely going on...
/narrows eyes
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Grand Master Kubo wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Grand Master Kubo wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Grand Master Kubo wrote:Why don't you attack them and find out? I know right. It's stressful attacking corporations that you've never heard of. Attacking a corp with only one member will almost always result in an enemy team of A-listers but some of them are probably owned by smaller corporations. Is it worth 50mil to most likely get stomped? What I want to see is is removal of the Nyain San districts. Cap actually uses their districts for attacks while Nyain has been sitting on inactive districts for a year. The brave corps have attempted to take Nyain's districts by getting up super early for the Asian timers but even then Nyain puts together a team of ringers that can actually win. Why do people ring for Nyain? Do you not realize that they are literally a cancer for this game. They have effectively infinite ISK due to the old passive farming and as a result run full proto squads in pubs killing off any potential new player base. I am not a fan. Nyain is a bunch of really cool guys. And that was a nice fail mass attack against them last time. Dust has no incentive whether in pubs or pc. You ring for them right? How active are they? How many Nyain do they field? How often do they attack or defend?
They defend when attacked, they do not send an attack why should they? They give away districts if asked. They will field 16 Nyain if 16 are on but you can't expect a corp to field 16 players in a dead game consistently. If you wiped out the oldest pc corp in the game then what? Have a bunch of scrubs who don't even know how to shoot hold the land or have a total of 6 players? Or are you suggesting corps such as KEQ, ML, TOP increase their districts by taking Nyain's?
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:If a corp were to attack one of these districts (iirc one of them was called 'This district is worth more than your village'), what would happen? Who would fight? Would it be a no-show? I can't imagine all these districts being defended by ringers for months - something shady or prearranged is definitely going on...
/narrows eyes
You would probably be removed from pc.
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:If a corp were to attack one of these districts (iirc one of them was called 'This district is worth more than your village'), what would happen? Who would fight? Would it be a no-show? I can't imagine all these districts being defended by ringers for months - something shady or prearranged is definitely going on...
/narrows eyes You would probably be removed from pc.
How and why?
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:If a corp were to attack one of these districts (iirc one of them was called 'This district is worth more than your village'), what would happen? Who would fight? Would it be a no-show? I can't imagine all these districts being defended by ringers for months - something shady or prearranged is definitely going on...
/narrows eyes You would probably be removed from pc. How and why?
Obviously farm corps, who would make these and why would they not have been taken yet?
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:If a corp were to attack one of these districts (iirc one of them was called 'This district is worth more than your village'), what would happen? Who would fight? Would it be a no-show? I can't imagine all these districts being defended by ringers for months - something shady or prearranged is definitely going on...
/narrows eyes You would probably be removed from pc. How and why? Obviously farm corps, who would make these and why would they not have been taken yet?
How does it work?
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Heimdallr69 wrote:
They defend when attacked, they do not send an attack why should they? They give away districts if asked. They will field 16 Nyain if 16 are on but you can't expect a corp to field 16 players in a dead game consistently. If you wiped out the oldest pc corp in the game then what? Have a bunch of scrubs who don't even know how to shoot hold the land or have a total of 6 players? Or are you suggesting corps such as KEQ, ML, TOP increase their districts by taking Nyain's?
If they never attack why do they need to own 20% of Molden Heath? Having a bunch of scrubs owning those districts would be an improvement over Nyain. A bunch of scrubs may actually use them. |
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:If a corp were to attack one of these districts (iirc one of them was called 'This district is worth more than your village'), what would happen? Who would fight? Would it be a no-show? I can't imagine all these districts being defended by ringers for months - something shady or prearranged is definitely going on...
/narrows eyes You would probably be removed from pc. How and why? Obviously farm corps, who would make these and why would they not have been taken yet? How does it work?
Top tier corps use them to lock their districts and their buttbuddies as well. You will **** off more than just 1 top tier corp, or this is how it was in the past idk bout now. But you can still use farm corps to farm ISK in pc =ƒÿë
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Grand Master Kubo wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:
They defend when attacked, they do not send an attack why should they? They give away districts if asked. They will field 16 Nyain if 16 are on but you can't expect a corp to field 16 players in a dead game consistently. If you wiped out the oldest pc corp in the game then what? Have a bunch of scrubs who don't even know how to shoot hold the land or have a total of 6 players? Or are you suggesting corps such as KEQ, ML, TOP increase their districts by taking Nyain's?
If they never attack why do they need to own 20% of Molden Heath? Having a bunch of scrubs owning those districts would be an improvement over Nyain. A bunch of scrubs may actually use them.
We both know no scrub corp is going to send attacks. So corps should only have districts if they're attacking other people? If this is what you think bring it up with ccp I can't help you there.
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:But seriously, what's the deal with Besateoden?
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Grand Master Kubo wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Grand Master Kubo wrote:
I know right. It's stressful attacking corporations that you've never heard of. Attacking a corp with only one member will almost always result in an enemy team of A-listers but some of them are probably owned by smaller corporations. Is it worth 50mil to most likely get stomped? What I want to see is is removal of the Nyain San districts. Cap actually uses their districts for attacks while Nyain has been sitting on inactive districts for a year.
The brave corps have attempted to take Nyain's districts by getting up super early for the Asian timers but even then Nyain puts together a team of ringers that can actually win. Why do people ring for Nyain? Do you not realize that they are literally a cancer for this game. They have effectively infinite ISK due to the old passive farming and as a result run full proto squads in pubs killing off any potential new player base.
I am not a fan.
Nyain is a bunch of really cool guys. And that was a nice fail mass attack against them last time. Dust has no incentive whether in pubs or pc. You ring for them right? How active are they? How many Nyain do they field? How often do they attack or defend? They defend when attacked, they do not send an attack why should they? They give away districts if asked. They will field 16 Nyain if 16 are on but you can't expect a corp to field 16 players in a dead game consistently. If you wiped out the oldest pc corp in the game then what? Have a bunch of scrubs who don't even know how to shoot hold the land or have a total of 6 players? Or are you suggesting corps such as KEQ, ML, TOP increase their districts by taking Nyain's?
I want to see nyian be attacked, not mass attacked i want to see people take districts from them in a 16 v 16 fight.
I want nyian to be attacked not to get district i want to see nyian be attacked to be challenged i want to see what they can do.
I know nyian gives away districts, not many care for the districts they care for the fights. That's why people want to attack nyian not to take district but to get fights because it is something new.
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They are owned by people who are
1. Too lazy to pub
2. Too lay to start a real corp and put in WORK to earn isk the real way
These people are scum to me and they hide behind the AAA Players who get paid by these fools. Now these players don't even ask to get paid they do it because they already have enough isk. They are just bored no lifers.
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@Dreis
Besateoden may as well by Zynga, because it's straight-up FarmVille. Attacking one of those corporations will result in you and your team getting stomped out by 16 players who are out of your league (no offense intended).
Also, nobody uses the Star Map anymore. It's all about that DUST Charts.
@Hiem
They could ask all they want. ToP doesn't need nor want any more districts.
@Kubo
If those "scrubs" want one of those districts, they can just ask someone from NS. Those people have been trying to get rid of some of their districts for a long time but nobody's taking them.
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axis alpha wrote:They are owned by people who are
1. Too lazy to pub
2. Too lay to start a real corp and put in WORK to earn isk the real way
These people are scum to me and they hide behind the AAA Players who get paid by these fools. Now these players don't even ask to get paid they do it because they already have enough isk. They are just bored no lifers.
This thread is starting to get hurtful.
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Atiim wrote:@Dreis Besateoden may as well by Zynga, because it's straight-up FarmVille. Attacking one of those corporations will result in you and your team getting stomped out by 16 players who are out of your league (no offense intended). Also, nobody uses the Star Map anymore. It's all about that DUST Charts. @Hiem They could ask all they want. ToP doesn't need nor want any more districts. @Kubo If those "scrubs" want one of those districts, they can just ask someone from NS. Those people have been trying to get rid of some of their districts for a long time but nobody's taking them.
It's not about taking districts from nyian san, it's about fighting them and having fun in the fights....
I don't want Nyian san to give away all there districts, because that is boring. i want to see people challenge them and take those districts. I understand nyian gives away districts, it's not about getting districts, its about getting fights for districts.
It's fun fighting for districts, it's boring transferring them. I get mad at no shows. I give no f*cks about taking district nor do majority of the CEO's, directors. They care about getting the fights because that's where the fun is.
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Atiim wrote:@Dreis Besateoden may as well by Zynga, because it's straight-up FarmVille. Attacking one of those corporations will result in you and your team getting stomped out by 16 players who are out of your league (no offense intended). Also, nobody uses the Star Map anymore. It's all about that DUST Charts. @Hiem They could ask all they want. ToP doesn't need nor want any more districts. @Kubo If those "scrubs" want one of those districts, they can just ask someone from NS. Those people have been trying to get rid of some of their districts for a long time but nobody's taking them. It's not about taking districts from nyian san, it's about fighting them and having fun in the fights.... I don't want Nyian san to give away all there districts, because that is boring. i want to see people challenge them and take those districts. I understand nyian gives away districts, it's not about getting districts, its about getting fights for districts.
If people truly wanted this they wouldn't use ringers in all their pc's.. I understand where you're coming from but we both know no one gives a **** about fights just the results. That's why they use ringers in PC and not their full team.
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:
It's not about taking districts from nyian san, it's about fighting them and having fun in the fights....
I don't want Nyian san to give away all there districts, because that is boring. i want to see people challenge them and take those districts. I understand nyian gives away districts, it's not about getting districts, its about getting fights for districts.
I agree, it'd be more fun to fight for the district but those hypothetical "scrubs" aren't going to fight them otherwise they would've already set their alarm clocks.
NS giving all of their districts is indeed a stupid idea, and thankfully won't happen.
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Atiim wrote:@Dreis Besateoden may as well by Zynga, because it's straight-up FarmVille. Attacking one of those corporations will result in you and your team getting stomped out by 16 players who are out of your league (no offense intended). Also, nobody uses the Star Map anymore. It's all about that DUST Charts. @Hiem They could ask all they want. ToP doesn't need nor want any more districts. @Kubo If those "scrubs" want one of those districts, they can just ask someone from NS. Those people have been trying to get rid of some of their districts for a long time but nobody's taking them. It's not about taking districts from nyian san, it's about fighting them and having fun in the fights.... I don't want Nyian san to give away all there districts, because that is boring. i want to see people challenge them and take those districts. I understand nyian gives away districts, it's not about getting districts, its about getting fights for districts.
I'm just saying that scrubs actually have potential for attacking people. I don't want scrubs to have the districts. I want someone who will use the districts to have the districts although scrubs would be an improvement over the current situation. If Nyain was actively fighting people this would be a different story. I realize they're in a different timezone but there are plenty of other corporations to attack that have similar timers.
Have they lost interest in the thrill of competitive fights? From what I've seen Nyain has never liked competitive fights. They took districts for the ISK, nothing more nothing less. Now that they can no longer farm passively they will stick to their one sided pub matches. Match after match of playing weaker opponents. How do you have fun with this game if you stomp every match? How will you grow as a player?
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Grand Master Kubo wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Atiim wrote:@Dreis Besateoden may as well by Zynga, because it's straight-up FarmVille. Attacking one of those corporations will result in you and your team getting stomped out by 16 players who are out of your league (no offense intended). Also, nobody uses the Star Map anymore. It's all about that DUST Charts. @Hiem They could ask all they want. ToP doesn't need nor want any more districts. @Kubo If those "scrubs" want one of those districts, they can just ask someone from NS. Those people have been trying to get rid of some of their districts for a long time but nobody's taking them. It's not about taking districts from nyian san, it's about fighting them and having fun in the fights.... I don't want Nyian san to give away all there districts, because that is boring. i want to see people challenge them and take those districts. I understand nyian gives away districts, it's not about getting districts, its about getting fights for districts. I'm just saying that scrubs actually have potential for attacking people. I don't want scrubs to have the districts. I want someone who will use the districts to have the districts although scrubs would be an improvement over the current situation. If Nyain was actively fighting people this would be a different story. I realize they're in a different timezone but there are plenty of other corporations to attack that have similar timers. Have they lost interest in the thrill of competitive fights? From what I've seen Nyain has never liked competitive fights. They took districts for the ISK, nothing more nothing less. Now that they can no longer farm passively they will stick to their one sided pub matches. Match after match of playing weaker opponents. How do you have fun with this game if you stomp every match? How will you grow as a player?
Is there even a purpose in this game? Competition is the only purpose? No reason to have isk no reason to fight no reason to win. Competitive play isn't the same once you've been around 3 years. It was fun at first but I sure as hell wouldn't log in for it now.
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That's sad. I'm sorry that this is what it has come to for you. I am a competitive person. If I'm good at something then I am going to strive to do that thing at a competitive level. Things change and can get boring but I am still addicted to those competitive fights. Maybe in another year I'll be where you are now. |
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Grand Master Kubo wrote:That's sad. I'm sorry that this is what it has come to for you. I am a competitive person. If I'm good at something then I am going to strive to do that thing at a competitive level. Things change and can get boring but I am still addicted to those competitive fights. Maybe in another year I'll be where you are now.
I understand I was once that way too.. My advice not like it matters since it's from me but don't do too much pc.. That **** with EoN burned vets out so fast it wasn't even funny.. No corp that's been in a big war has survived, it burns players out and the competitive play becomes a grind. I'm sure like once a day wouldn't be too bad for players who aren't tired and burnt out.
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