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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2015.01.06 23:56:00 -
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When the best counter to something is itself you know there is a problem. The most viable, effective method of dealing with large numbers of logis and heavies in an enclosed objective is simply zerging them with more heavies and logis than they do. There's a reason the hmg is the most popular weapon in pc.
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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Golden Day
Y.A.M.A.H
612
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Posted - 2015.01.06 23:58:00 -
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Its not my fault i like to Rep heavies
What do you want me to do rep a scout? 
Plus i only can fit uplinks and a repairtool
Shields mmmmm.....
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
1177
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:01:00 -
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Holy feck, team work in a team based fps!
Jesus H Tapdancing Christ say it ain't so!
Far as i anecdotally know, cloaky shot guns still win, if you're not r-tarded.
And if youre being sarcastic, im sorry, i was reading spkr's wisdom.
Why are all of you so intellectually inept?
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hfderrtgvcd
1682
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:04:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Holy feck, team work in a team based fps!
Jesus H Tapdancing Christ say it ain't so!
Far as i anecdotally know, cloaky shot guns still win, if you're not r-tarded.
And if youre being sarcastic, im sorry, i was reading spkr's wisdom.
Standing beind someone and holding r1 doesn't count as teamwork
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
6926
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:06:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:
Far as i anecdotally know, cloaky shot guns still win, if you're not r-tarded.
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Y play shotty + Scout if you can play with Sent + Logi While playing R-tardedly?
When something doesnt have a counter but itself , its broken.
Playing as : Calscout + Amarr Assault
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
1121
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:14:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Holy feck, team work in a team based fps!
Jesus H Tapdancing Christ say it ain't so!
Far as i anecdotally know, cloaky shot guns still win, if you're not r-tarded.
And if youre being sarcastic, im sorry, i was reading spkr's wisdom. Standing beind someone and holding r1 doesn't count as teamwork
So if the rep tool didnt lock, and was more like a laser would that match your "slayer skill?"
Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
5047
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:17:00 -
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Can you not simply let them waste resources on a single point and go elsewhere?
Or use those impossible-to-avoid, never-miss frisbee RE's I keep hearing about?
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:22:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Can you not simply let them waste resources on a single point and go elsewhere?
Or use those impossible-to-avoid, never-miss frisbee RE's I keep hearing about?
On a cargo hub 2 of the 4 objectives can easily be held by 10 players. That leaves an entire squad to defend the home point.
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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Balistyc Farshot
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
19
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:31:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:When the best counter to something is itself you know there is a problem. The most viable, effective method of dealing with large numbers of logis and heavies in an enclosed objective is simply zerging them with more heavies and logis than they do. There's a reason the hmg is the most popular weapon in pc.
Ok, knock this off. This is the third post of this same topic. Get original! Oh, and heavies hate open spaces. If a squad of guys is running you over or holding a point, go somewhere else. If it is dom then good luck and get skillz.
Heavy with a massive bullet hose called Lola (Burst HMG).
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Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition
Red Whines.
123
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:33:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:When the best counter to something is itself you know there is a problem. The most viable, effective method of dealing with large numbers of logis and heavies in an enclosed objective is simply zerging them with more heavies and logis than they do. There's a reason the hmg is the most popular weapon in pc.
that isn't OP and anything like that, is the most efficient way to protect a point in CQC battles. and inside outposts
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
394
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:36:00 -
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Flux grenades in the pocket, Mass drivers and Combat rifles...
I see pill boxes and pocket objectives cleared of heavies all the time.
Usually by a team working together from all available angles.
And a solo heavy is not the answer to take out 3+ heavies with logi support... you die.
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2015.01.07 00:40:00 -
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So what else are they supposed to do exactly? Both roles has seen alteration to the suits and the impact they have on the battlefield. Its the best option for them both.
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
184
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Posted - 2015.01.07 01:24:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:When the best counter to something is itself you know there is a problem. The most viable, effective method of dealing with large numbers of logis and heavies in an enclosed objective is simply zerging them with more heavies and logis than they do. There's a reason the hmg is the most popular weapon in pc.
Yeah I might believe you, but i've witnessed scouts take out heavies n a logi(remote explosives). Can't tell you how many times i've witnessed this tactic in Dom matches, not to mention MASS DRIVERS. Your going to have good matches n not so good matches. But please don't run to the forums when your still pissed over a bad game. |
Niuvo
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1423
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Posted - 2015.01.07 01:31:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Holy feck, team work in a team based fps!
Jesus H Tapdancing Christ say it ain't so!
Far as i anecdotally know, cloaky shot guns still win, if you're not r-tarded.
And if youre being sarcastic, im sorry, i was reading spkr's wisdom. Standing beind someone and holding r1 doesn't count as teamwork
Then what do you call someone helping another?
HMG is the only heavy weapon effective on infantry. |
Omega Black Zero
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
146
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Posted - 2015.01.07 01:32:00 -
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Being a good logi requires effort. Bad logis are a dime a dozen.
I dabble in every aspect of this game, and by far, surviving as a logi is the most difficult at this point in the game. People seem to forget what happens when those heavies get core locus grenades chunked at them, or who the first target of a scout ambush is.. Logis typically pay the price. Surviving as a logi can easily be one of the most difficult things to achieve in this game, especially playing solo as I do. Either way, I'd suggest being a logi before knocking it. |
DDx77
The Exemplars
RISE of LEGION
70
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Posted - 2015.01.07 01:34:00 -
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It's getting out of control?
Like now?
When did you start playing this game?..........
You should make a thread about nerfing RE's next.
There's nothing they can do to the hmg except affect its range. I think there should be a sharp decline in damage after 25m
Either that or give me warpoints when I do serious damage to a heavy but run out of ammo and die because of bzzzzzzzttttthhhh |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4527
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Posted - 2015.01.07 01:38:00 -
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Select Logi as target. Knife/SG/Core Locus his ass. Run for dear life. Circle back and repeat to Heavy.
Guaranteed to work 30% of the time!
Or.. You can do a suicide RE run. |
thehellisgoingon
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
116
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Posted - 2015.01.07 02:52:00 -
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Dude its a team game. Squads playing together beat everything. Join. |
Sergeant Sazu
Nanite Systems
323
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Posted - 2015.01.07 02:58:00 -
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If I had more characters, I would add this to my signature:
"Have you ever tried an Assault Mass Driver?"
Solves a lot of problems.
[38.4m SP - Next skill: Active Scanner Operation 4]
Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
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demonkiller 12
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
423
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Posted - 2015.01.07 04:05:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Holy feck, team work in a team based fps!
Jesus H Tapdancing Christ say it ain't so!
Far as i anecdotally know, cloaky shot guns still win, if you're not r-tarded.
And if youre being sarcastic, im sorry, i was reading spkr's wisdom. Standing beind someone and holding r1 doesn't count as teamwork
Theyre standing there helping each other, thats team work
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demonkiller 12
G.L.O.R.Y
General Tso's Alliance
424
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Posted - 2015.01.07 04:06:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:When the best counter to something is itself you know there is a problem. The most viable, effective method of dealing with large numbers of logis and heavies in an enclosed objective is simply zerging them with more heavies and logis than they do. There's a reason the hmg is the most popular weapon in pc.
and you cant beat them, i'd say that team is definitely... working
YEAAAAAAA
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
95
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Posted - 2015.01.07 04:11:00 -
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With that sort of attitude I won't stab you with my nanite injector. Eat that!  |
TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
95
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Posted - 2015.01.07 04:12:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:When the best counter to something is itself you know there is a problem. The most viable, effective method of dealing with large numbers of logis and heavies in an enclosed objective is simply zerging them with more heavies and logis than they do. There's a reason the hmg is the most popular weapon in pc.
My gosh!!! Team work is so OP!! Nerf everyone! |
Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
General Tso's Alliance
1059
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Posted - 2015.01.07 04:17:00 -
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Explosives. Lots and lots of explosives. Spam flux followed by mass drivers and plasma cannons or REs.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Piraten Hovnoret
No Tax Scrubs
691
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Posted - 2015.01.07 07:42:00 -
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Are you playing Dom ?
Play skirm and avoid the underground heayv/logie blob...point.
War never changes
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1733
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Posted - 2015.01.07 08:10:00 -
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PLC instagibs the heavies face
RE instagibs the whole squad
Shotgun two shots the logi, potentially can even one shot a logi with a headshot if he carries full proto equipment
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kensei1989
GalacticGuardians 514
0
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Posted - 2015.02.10 01:57:00 -
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explosives such as mines, mass drivers ect. they are a bigger and slower targets so they are cake to hit. take out the healing logi first for if they are healing they are slow moving targets. shooting it out with a sentile logi combo is just plain stupid. lure them out into the open, into traps. and fight from far away. their chain gun is useless if it's long ranged.
all about good teamwork and communication. |
emm kay
Direct Action Resources
257
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Posted - 2015.02.10 02:03:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:When the best counter to something is itself you know there is a problem. The most viable, effective method of dealing with large numbers of logis and heavies in an enclosed objective is simply zerging them with more heavies and logis than they do. There's a reason the hmg is the most popular weapon in pc.
False. the best way to handle this situation is with grenades, RE, and other explosives. Why does nobody take stealth seriously in dust? it truly is an art.
There is a reason you never see me in battle.
it's because I see you first.
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Her Chosen
Grade No.2
227
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Posted - 2015.02.10 02:08:00 -
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Its not the logi+heavy combo, its map design and objective placement.
They even switched all objectives now to where they are funnels of CQC.
And since the HMG is lethal at 50m and less, what better to use around objectives?
This is why it's either HMG spam, or RE spam.
I believe in teamwork, but a sentinel suit with a HMG is crazy OP
STRONG BOX ROLE CALL
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
2288
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Posted - 2015.02.10 02:14:00 -
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Plasma cannon, re,s and a flaylock with core nades are my counter.
Delt for CPM2
CPM1 MISSION : FAILED
Moss-delt on skype
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gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
907
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Posted - 2015.02.10 02:15:00 -
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emm kay wrote:[
False. the best way to handle this situation is with grenades, RE, and other explosives. Why does nobody take stealth seriously in dust? it truly is an art.
He means it's the only solid counter. Grenades leave you immobile and TTK is equal to if not less than the amount of time to throw one. Re's are apparently an exploit and will probably be nerfed. If not they're easily spotted/avoided. Not to mention explosives and stealth don't mix at all.
It's even more disgusting that people complain about Re suicide runs, but turn around and say "don't like heavies? use re's hurka durka."
In heavy you get 40m of range with the Hmg, a base tank of 1000 ehp or 1/5th the ehp a tank gets, and a dps of 1000 to top it all off. You don't even need to stack Hp because it does for you already...
GimmeDatSuhWeet isk
We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
3157
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Posted - 2015.02.10 02:21:00 -
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You mean teamwork between the two suits intended to pair up for close quarters point defense?
It's supposed to be hard, and there are plenty of counters other than more heavies.
That said, I'm of the opinion that heavies DPS is a bit too high. |
devjo88
ScReWeD uP InC
Smart Deploy
0
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Posted - 2015.02.10 02:50:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:When the best counter to something is itself you know there is a problem. The most viable, effective method of dealing with large numbers of logis and heavies in an enclosed objective is simply zerging them with more heavies and logis than they do. There's a reason the hmg is the most popular weapon in pc.
or you could chunk explosives at the logis then move on the heavys |
Mary Sedillo
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
351
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Posted - 2015.02.10 02:51:00 -
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Hit them with RE's; tanks can make short work of them too. |
LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
2008
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Posted - 2015.02.10 02:57:00 -
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Mary Sedillo wrote:Hit them with RE's; tanks can make short work of them too.
You're kidding I hope...
You know what were talking about, the blobs inside the buildings with 2 entrances... Guarded...
Official QuafeGäó Advocate
Anti-FoTM Prof. V
Forum Scavenger Prof. V
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
147
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Posted - 2015.02.10 03:34:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Holy feck, team work in a team based fps!
Jesus H Tapdancing Christ say it ain't so!
Far as i anecdotally know, cloaky shot guns still win, if you're not r-tarded.
And if youre being sarcastic, im sorry, i was reading spkr's wisdom. Standing beind someone and holding r1 doesn't count as teamwork
Is it a simple task? Yes, however if you are implying that I as a logi do not help my team ask my corp mates that squad up with me. Besides a rep tool there is oh I don't know nanohives, nanite injectors, uplinks, explosives, scanners. The list goes on |
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