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bolsh lee
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Posted - 2015.01.06 13:15:00 -
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How about "current game fixes"
FPS Lag PC frame rate Lag and latency Hit detection Terrain glitches Installations still not able to be shot through RDVs glitching out Etc
I don't ******* understand how the community and/or CCP doesn't see how these things could also improve NPE.... If we want to keep players how about we fix the god damn game so it's playable for the majority and not the minority...
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.01.06 16:00:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Cavani1EE7 wrote:Ahh, the GD peasants Says the man posting in GD Imagine a party host (CCP) asking his guests (the players) for their pizza toppings (updates, features, etc.). 12 of the guests say pepperoni, 8 want extra cheese, 3 want mushrooms, 1 weird guy wants black olives. The host can only afford to buy 5 pizzas (CCP Shanghai is a small dev team with limited resources). So the host says, "Okay then, I've got 1 black olive pizza, 3 with mushrooms, and 1 with extra cheese. Got it!" The guests are confused, and rightfully so. Some of them will eat the pizza with the topping they didn't order, but it isn't at all what they wanted (corporations participate in PC because there is **** all else to do). PC appeals to a group of specific large corporations that want to have territory wars. They do not represent the majority of Dust players. Why we are trying to appeal to them is what baffles me. We are appealing to the Black Olives and the Mushrooms of the party, when there are many more Pepperoni and Extra Cheeses. EDIT: I don't believe that PC should be completely left out of development. I believe it should just be behind such things as PvE, additional maps, more weapons, missing racial vehicles, improving the new player tutorial.
I just want a pizza with a stable crust! Really getting tired of picking up a piece and my hand is unable to grab it or my hand falls right through it!!
I've been telling them for years to put the **** back in the oven...... Nope... Just gets re-delivered with different toppings and still a worthless soggy crust.. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.01.06 16:21:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote: Never post while you are hungry man. I believe they are trying to make PC more accessible to all players. The reason PC is only popular for big corps is because it's difficult for small corps to get in to, it's not for them not wanting to be. As a regular PC player, I truly hope these updates help more of a the player base get involved. PC is a rewarding experience (looking past the lag, which isn't easy) and should be the true pepperoni pizza of the dust experience.
What updates can be done to the current "end game PC" in order to appeal to the 5 -10m SP new player... ?
I say current because you know the current Dust dev team isn't going to or more likely able to overhaul ****... |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.01.06 19:37:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:bolsh lee wrote:How about "current game fixes"
FPS Lag PC frame rate Lag and latency Hit detection Terrain glitches Installations still not able to be shot through RDVs glitching out Etc
I don't ******* understand how the community and/or CCP doesn't see how these things could also improve NPE.... If we want to keep players how about we fix the god damn game so it's playable for the majority and not the minority...
There's some manner of balance to this. If you only develop new features, but don't fix bugs, then you build a very poor quality game. But if you focus only on bug fixing, and you don't add new gameplay, players will just get bored and leave. You have to be working on both. And some problems are easier to fix than others too. CCP has knocked out a lot of big pet peeves in recent builds, but obviously, there's plenty more to do. The biggest challenge with hunting bugs is how much time you might invest in trying to figure it out, and still fail to solve it. Things like that can give the impression you're doing nothing, when you might be working on it.
I understand this but given CCP'S track record and current resources devoted to Dust I really think they need to direct everything to the core fixes maybe even controls.. Throw out some cheap social media marketing to hype the improvements and I think they would be surprised on how many people stick around, return, and even invest.
Even if it's something ideally simple like removing grass or those ridiculous weather/installation effects. I'm no developer but seeing how the ps3 handles Dust currently I would think the less visual **** we have in competitive play the better..
We talk about improving PC ? Improving Frame rate alone will be a gigantic improvement.. In two PC matches I played last night we had 2 guys crash and a handful of us with unplayable frame rate. The fact that this is still an issue in PC baffles a lot of people the ones willing to stick with Dust have looked past it..
Combine the new player skill point gap along side the roulette of PC struggles, good luck getting those new players involved.. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.01.06 20:22:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Even if it's something ideally simple like removing grass or those ridiculous weather/installation effects. I'm no developer but seeing how the ps3 handles Dust currently I would think the less visual **** we have in competitive play the better.. That's a bad way to go about solving frame rate problems. You don't remove graphics to increase frame rates. What needs to be done is further optimize the graphics. This is not to be confused with upgrading graphics as they are not the same thing. They are mutually exclusive from each other. Optimizing allows you to get more stability and better frame rates using the same quality graphics. This can be done in any number of ways. Cutting down on unnecessary polygons, refining the Level of Detail (LOD) for an object that is a certain distance from you, stopping the rendering of objects you're not seeing, etc. Removing grass or leaving us with a plain sky won't help if the Gallente Research Facility still needs fixing. EDIT: The processing of the files containing the graphics helps too.
Dont get me wrong i fully agree.. But the real question is, is the current CCP Dust team actually able to optimize the engine ? When any of the community talks about optimizing or changing the core engine it seems to get pushed under the rug...
I'm thinking along terms of something simple because I seems that's all this current dev team can do is add and remove....
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.01.07 01:01:00 -
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I was posting my newest montage in the My Dust section and I came across, THIS.......
This is the **** that seems like CCP can't fix..
This isn't network lag, this is frame rate lag and if a new person comes in trying to get the hang of things and gets this? Then has to go through the process of resetting their ps3, reloading Dust getting two matches in just to have it happen again..
Guess what that new player does and has been doing ?
They uninstall and with the money that should be going to CCP they go get Destiny, upcoming Planetside, COD or any other game that doesn't lock up on them in the middle of a gun fight and force you to reset your PS3..
THIS IS THE BULLSHIT THAT PUSHES NEW PEOPLE AWAY FIX THIS CCP.... |
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