Bous? This isn't a fight to be fought.. Just some idiot ranting because he's terrible at a video game. I was simply stating that its pathetic that this is what the majority of the Dust community has become. Your post brings the community IQ level down far more then any of these hackers which you claim are out in force..

Nice vision. It's not a reality that my kind can look forward to.

Bous? This isn't a fight to be fought.. Just some idiot ranting because he's terrible at a video game. I was simply stating that its pathetic that this is what the majority of the Dust community has become. Your post brings the community IQ level down far more then any of these hackers which you claim are out in force..

Lmao! Hahahaha! Oh man these guys! You're the sad oblivious ones. I feel sorry for you the most.

There are a lot of people complaining about it. Soo. There must be something to it. Or maybe you're one of the hackers/modders we're talking about.

Sorry to break your heart, but you are the one who is oblivious. You obviously have no clue how a lag switch works. It is literally impossible to lag switch in dust. You have to be HOSTING the game, and since CCP hosts the game, it is only possible for CCP devs to lag switch in dust.

There are other ways to lag out the game though. Overloading hardware specs is about the only viable way to lag out dust via equipment spam, explosions, ect.

Also, CCP tries to normalize ping rates of all players in a match. What this means is that a player from say brazil, who has a crap ping (say he pings at 400,) gets his ping boosted to say 200, while an american player who has a good ping (lets say 120,) will have his REDUCED to 200 to compensate for other players low ping. This is why matches with players from other countries become giant lag fests, and why japanese corps (great pings) and latino corps (crap pings) tend to be the biggest culprits of lag.

I'm not sure if you're complaining about flavor of the month, or 'lag switches' (which don't work when there is a dedicated server hosting the game opposed to a local host), or if you're screaming because you got kicked out of PC?

The only actual cheating I've ever seen happens with modded controllers and that's relatively rare.

The thing that I find amusing is that you're not actually calling out specific groups or people, you're just asserting repeatedly that 'everyone is cheating' which sounds like being a sore loser. So to be specific - Who exactly is cheating, and how (fyi - FOTM chasing isn't 'cheating' as that's an advantage that's technically available to anyone).

I am, you're right, you caught me red handed, scrubs.... I see like 4 people claiming hacks recently where are these "lots of people" ?

All it takes is one person claiming hacks and all the terrible kids jump on the bandwagon to make themselves feel better....

The majority of the mods and hacks I'm sure you guys are referring to is in fact CCP'S horrible ******* engine and network backbone.. It really doesn't help the unskilled..

Think about this. What if I'm right, and trust me I would rather be wrong, but what if I'm not? What if CCP's servers are fine?

I have made tons of friends in this game, in corp, and in others. How many are cheaters? You think this just sucks for you? What if you're so convinced it isn't true because you know that it is?

It would suck to find out that the guys you thought you knew were cheating. That would suck! What if some of those PC battles you lost were rigged? It doesn't matter in real life, bit this game is an escape for us all. So it does matter to a degree right?

You can say "oh its possible" all you want, it doesn't change the FACT that its not. No one can "slow down your movement," or anything else you claim..

I will agree that modded controllers are a bit of an issue still. I have known people who do much better with a modded controller, but I also know people who are good enough, that a modded pad doesn't help them. CCP has made some small efforts to help fight against modded pads. The nerf to ScR RoF is a prime example of this. I can now spam the trigger just as fast as someone with a modded pad, and with the AA in this game, I dont even have to be that accurate.

I really dont think modded pads are as big of an issue as some make it out to be, especially not in pubs. Are there a lot of them in PC? Most likely, but if you are really a top teir player (you should be if you're in PC,) it shouldn't be that big of a deal. The CR and Burst AR are really the only two guns that are vastly improved by modded pads anymore because of their unhumanly ROF..

you cant use lag switches in dust what a ret*rd.

Lmao! Hahahaha! Oh man these guys! You're the sad oblivious ones. I feel sorry for you the most.

No seriously go take a class on networking and get back to us.

It's not everyone else lagging, you're just bad lol.

Tell me about it... no really, since I work in military IT, and run large satellite networks for missions around the country. Why the hell do you think I got the notion to bring any of this up? Super nintendo?

I appreciate your advice on "networking", but I make entire units communicate via everything around the globe through networking.

The is the internet. Your resume and personal out of game accomplishments are assumed to be 100% fictitious. Until you have empirical evidence proving that lag switching is possible in a console game you are full of ****.

It's not FACT unless you can prove it.

The nerf to ScR only would've hurt normal players, hence the outrage when it happened.

The modded controllers do give an edge that isn't completely unstoppable, but that's not the issue. With it requesting to fire more than the normal controller how do we know it isn't causing the lag?

I don't care that it's killing faster or has no dispersion, issue though it is. What are the undiscovered side effects? The lag is to a very large degree unexplained. CCP says it isn't their servers. Bad Internet isn't as common, and easily fixable by calling your local Internet company. Now once you've eliminated those commonly offered solutions, why are you getting lag... and only against certain individuals.

Sometimes I can play all day, and have no issues. Then boom! I can't move, frame rate is crap, and members of my team are dc'd. The victory/defeat screen freeze, or the damage to heavies in an instant when there's only one shooter? Are you not curious?

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Ok, so the cats clearly out of the bag. But before we start, don't make me post pics of the fools who were typing in chats about how they use all this bs in PC. I'm trying to be civil. No need to berate anyone.

For the players who do cheat. Look what you've done to this game, and it's community! I hope you're proud of yourselves. Your lust for recognition in a video game, of all things, has players at each others throats. The only way to truly be good is to put down the modded controllers, lag switches, and God knows whatever else you have evolved to, and play normal.

If you really want to prove that you aren't the source of the lag then play normal for a month. If things continue to be lagged out then it isn't you guys, but if the game plays 10x better for the whole community well.... Bob your uncle eh?

I don't understand you guys. You're so hell bent on being "the best", but not willing to prove that you truly are. Being the best isn't about having an atom bomb at your disposal. It's about being honorable first! There are many ways to be the best in this game. It's not all about numbers either. You're small circle of trusted cheaters cares about kd, but everyone else just wants to play without lag.

Most don't care about being the best. This isn't C.O.D.! This game is so much more than just an fps shooter. Other shooters can't compare to dust, but you're ruining it! The player base is dying, but you don't care. No one can even really play PC with any true hope of competing because you've taken it over. It's not for the elites it's full of cheaters. Not all for sure as I've had some normal battles, and some of you play fair. I can't say all of you play with handicaps, but you may be playing right alongside of them, and not even know it. I may be playing right alongside of them, and not even know it.

This playerbase should've been huge by now! This game is awesome! CCP, regardless to how much we bash them, are awesome! We're sitting here bickering over weapon differences, tank v AV, and other trivial things while some losers, who are obviously not good at the game seeing as they need all of this crap to win, is ruining the game and playerbase for all of us.

My message to anyone using any modifications. You're not better than anyone playing this game! You use modifications to boost your numbers, and survive when you're in trouble. Those players beat you fair and square, and you couldn't take your beating like a man. For you it's not about building corps, isk for battles, or anything that is actually important for dust players. You, like in other games, only care about a number to brag about. You're a bunch of C.O.D. players that couldn't beat true C.O.D. players so you came to the dust community with all you're tricks.

It's easy to sort you lot out, and that's why you get called cheaters. You can't stay in a corp for 5 mins. You give up on matches, not because it's a loss cause, but because it's harmful to your kd. You're not leaders at all, and at the first sign of trouble you abandon your mates. You can't be trusted, and when your name is in the chat mic bubbles dissappear. You're the worst kind of merc. One without loyalty and a spine.

If you want to continue to be a part of this community as it moves forward in the eve universe, and in other games, be the first to put away the switch and modded controller. It doesn't make you any better than you truly are. It makes you worse. You soon become dependant on those tools, and will find that you probably couldn't kill a newb.

Look around ffs. Players are boosting SP to catch up to you. They're buying modded controllers to compete. DDOS attacks, and trying to hack. It's all ubsurd. Is this what you wanted? The game to die like mag? A dying player base? Wake up! This has gotten ridiculous.

And you're full of **** if you can't prove it doesn't. Balls in your court.

Care to shed light on anything else?

Resume not fictitious by the way. Assume what you will.

The ScR nerf hurt normal players? Lolololol. So a weapon that could fire faster than humanly possible is nerfed down to human standards, and it hurt the normal player? You are seriously diggin yourself a deeper hole talking about things you know little to nothing about. Go back and look at some of those ScR nerf threads, you will see "normal" players like me who were all for a slight nerf on the ScR, because modded pads were an issue. The little outrage there was, was from either modded pad users or those who feared that CCP would OVER nerf the weapon. I am a ScR user, and followed those threads daily, so I know what Im talking about.

Not all internets are created equal, it is a well known FACT (do some research for once in your life,) that some countries simply have better or worse networks. The central/south american countries are prime examples. They simply dont have the infrastructure in their countries to have a "top teir" connection yet. You cant just call up a better provider in brazil, its just not there. I have seen this in other MMOs as well as dust.

Let me ask you this -- why were the first months of PC complete lag fests. Im talking less than 1fps. I can show you videos from my old corpmates (who were australian, playing against americans and euros) where they were completely frozen for near the entire match, or just outright DC'd. This was before anyone even used modded pads. CCP's servers are broken, their coding is bad, and they haven't completely fixed it. I dont know how long you have been around, but I have been here longer than most (eve beta key days,) and I can tell you that PC, and the servers in general, have gotten MUCH better since its inception.

"You're a stupid-head"

"Nuh-uh, you're a stupid head"

That is a post by an ignorant person.
Don't worry, the playerbase will forgive you.

Ill i read was qq

295 why? I'm a soldier. This comes natural. Wanna know my bench next, or my deadlift? The deadlift is really impressive :)