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Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 506	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:00:00 - [1] - Quote And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK Changes to Damage mods!
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6637	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:01:00 - [2] - Quote AA was the worst feature Dust ever got. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 506	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:03:00 - [3] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: AA was the worst feature Dust ever got. Agree Changes to Damage mods!
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6609	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:09:00 - [4] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that. Playing as : Calmando, Calscout & Calassault.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 506	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:12:00 - [5] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that. From what I have heard KBM has wonky aiming but they benefit from having the fastest strafe. Changes to Damage mods!
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1450	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:19:00 - [6] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that. Yea kill KB/M Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Give me da iskiez Gk0 Scout yay :)
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1672	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:40:00 - [7] - Quote cool story, except that the aim assist cannot keep up with strafe speeds and only works if you do not move your stick otherwise stick movement pretty much overwrites AA.
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo 30	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:50:00 - [8] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: cool story, except that the aim assist cannot keep up with strafe speeds and only works if you do not move your stick otherwise stick movement pretty much overwrites AA. Turn off AA, my accuracy and precision goes up !!! blame you AA !!!!
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6610	Posted - 2014.12.30 01:09:00 - [9] - Quote Aidualc wrote: Jack McReady wrote: cool story, except that the aim assist cannot keep up with strafe speeds and only works if you do not move your stick otherwise stick movement pretty much overwrites AA. Turn off AA, my accuracy and precision goes up !!! blame you AA !!!! Yeah, against Speed strafers. Now Try hitting at enemy at 80mts with a RR or a SCR... Or keep a laser on an enemy....good luck with that. Playing as : Calmando, Calscout & Calassault.
Miokai Zahou WarRavens Capital Punishment. 434	Posted - 2014.12.30 01:32:00 - [10] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: AA was the worst feature Dust ever got. Agree Speed strafing is the worst feature Dust ever got. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.

bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 1172	Posted - 2014.12.30 01:37:00 - [11] - Quote Zindorak wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F* that. Yea kill KB/M You obviously haven't played with KB/M, CCP has **** it up beyond repair, a real kb/m player playing with the current Dust translator is like controller players playing with out aim assist its complete garbage and jumps all over the place.....
knight guard fury Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1481	Posted - 2014.12.30 02:30:00 - [12] - Quote I've tried using kb/m and I am total **** at using it, but controller is a lot easier to use. The aiming with a mouse is very wierd and I'm not use to it. AA is somewhat helpful but I would rather it be merged to hell than just completely removed. OR CCP can stealth switch it off for everyone and let it still be an option SP earned perday/week
Patrick57 I Have No Idea What I'm Doing 9504	Posted - 2014.12.30 02:31:00 - [13] - Quote I think aim assist actually affects hit detection more than aiming:/ i fucking hate waffles
knight guard fury Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1481	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:00:00 - [14] - Quote Just played with AA off in an ambush... Went 15/5. Get good I'm pretty much the same but slightly better with it on. It's more about aiming and skill than aiming than a bit takes care of the rest When AA is off SP earned perday/week
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 2052	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:02:00 - [15] - Quote I have it off, I'm tempted to turn it in and rek even more face Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14146	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:18:00 - [16] - Quote I tried going in with a newbie alt and turning off aim assist, to see how well I could do without any advantages. Went 31/2. That was before mu. I wasn't in Academy. There were enemy proto players. >Fuck Logic Edit: That was at my peak, when I used to play a LOT of DUST. So it might not be as ridiculous as it sounds now that I think about it, I am no where near as good as I was back then. Feline overlord of all humans Assault Conglomerate: Because we don't shave
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 509	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:20:00 - [17] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I tried going in with a newbie alt and turning off aim assist, to see how well I could do without any advantages. Went 31/2. That was before mu. I wasn't in Academy. There were enemy proto players. >Fuck Logic What type of people were you playing against with? Changes to Damage mods!
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14146	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:22:00 - [18] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I tried going in with a newbie alt and turning off aim assist, to see how well I could do without any advantages. Went 31/2. That was before mu. I wasn't in Academy. There were enemy proto players. >Fuck Logic What type of people were you playing against with? As I said, Proto stompers. I rarely keep track of names, everyone but the very best or people who are close to me are faceless to me. But as I said, that was at my peak, when I used to play a LOT of DUST. So it might not be as ridiculous as it sounds now that I think about it, I am no where near as good as I was back then. Feline overlord of all humans Assault Conglomerate: Because we don't shave
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 118	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:28:00 - [19] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I tried going in with a newbie alt and turning off aim assist, to see how well I could do without any advantages. Went 31/2. That was before mu. I wasn't in Academy. There were enemy proto players. >Fuck Logic Edit: That was at my peak, when I used to play a LOT of DUST. So it might not be as ridiculous as it sounds now that I think about it, I am no where near as good as I was back then. Well then turn it off on your main, and we'll all just sit back and watch you become a bag in the wind bursting like a firework or some ****...don't come in here and honeydick. Cats are useless" food whores"
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 141	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:30:00 - [20] - Quote I turned aim assist off and I use a controller, I enjoy my games more now Proud Christian Jesus Loves You

Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14146	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:41:00 - [21] - Quote GLOBAL fils'de RAGE wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I tried going in with a newbie alt and turning off aim assist, to see how well I could do without any advantages. Went 31/2. That was before mu. I wasn't in Academy. There were enemy proto players. >Fuck Logic Edit: That was at my peak, when I used to play a LOT of DUST. So it might not be as ridiculous as it sounds now that I think about it, I am no where near as good as I was back then. Well then turn it off on your main, and we'll all just sit back and watch you become a bag in the wind bursting like a firework or some ****...don't come in here and honeydick. Cats are useless" food whores" I am 99% sure this was just a fluke. It was an amusing fluke, but I doubt I could repeat that consistently. Feline overlord of all humans Assault Conglomerate: Because we don't shave
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 110	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:56:00 - [22] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that. It's not as easy to aim with KB/M as you think! Keeping it steady is a challenge at times and actually getting the bullet to hit the target is sometimes super frustrating. It's as though the head of players can magically position itself between two pixels so you have no chance of hitting them sometimes. I actually played with a controller the other day for the first time in months. I was able to kill people pretty easy at close quarters! I can't seem to aim properly at speed with a mouse when I'm less than 100m away from my opponent. I'm great at spray and pray (but the Dust Gods rarely answer my prayers!) Even sneaking up behind an enemy sniper and headshotting them at 5-10m takes ages with KB/M compared to controller. It's like my merc has a tremor.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2805	Posted - 2014.12.30 04:03:00 - [23] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK See I am fine with Aim assist in console games that are for enhancing controller aiming abilities in a quick die/respawn 1 shot headshot shoot'em up FPS game. The problem is more with DUST it's self. When you have a game like DUST where it is directly connected to the EVE Universe... Which is Computer Nerd heaven beyond any other video game out there.. Where stuff like This is built to play it Then you have a console game... Where CCP Knew these players where gonna play it... And they would want to use their Mouse and Keyboard.. So they thought to balance the DS3 Controller with the Mouse and Keyboard... And made the M&KB a emulation of the controller with limitations to balance them. Then CCP Added Aim assist... And it then unbalanced the Peripherals completely.... Aim assist is king... Now Mouse and Keyboard players go and buy a Xim4 And run a Mouse and Keyboard with Aim assist... Which is near having a toggled Aim bot set on your mouse... Here is what Xim4 does with Aim assist.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SfQEOj9ssU Now imagine DUST.. where it buffs Hit detection and gives near perfect bullet accuracy when the crosshairs are activated. Meh.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3271	Posted - 2014.12.30 04:12:00 - [24] - Quote Its really a HD fix... "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
DarK KNigHT007 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.12.30 04:14:00 - [25] - Quote Raptor Princess wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that. It's not as easy to aim with KB/M as you think! Keeping it steady is a challenge at times and actually getting the bullet to hit the target is sometimes super frustrating. It's as though the head of players can magically position itself between two pixels so you have no chance of hitting them sometimes. I actually played with a controller the other day for the first time in months. I was able to kill people pretty easy at close quarters! I can't seem to aim properly at speed with a mouse when I'm less than 100m away from my opponent. I'm great at spray and pray (but the Dust Gods rarely answer my prayers!) Even sneaking up behind an enemy sniper and headshotting them at 5-10m takes ages with KB/M compared to controller. It's like my merc has a tremor. You are right ...just bcoz of aim assist nw i am trying to play with ds3.With kb/m hit detection is worse(especially combat rifles) and CR is good with aim assist .To me controller is superior than kb/m in this game
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2438	Posted - 2014.12.30 04:40:00 - [26] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: I think aim assist actually affects hit detection more than aiming:/ Agree. I think the motivation for our too-strong aim assist is a combination of hit detection/framerate/poor controls. PSN: RationalSpark
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3341	Posted - 2014.12.30 05:01:00 - [27] - Quote yep... aim assist is more about bullet magnetism and less about actual aim assist. Using a KB/M emulator like GIMX or XIM4 you will find the same results. Its not about aiming, its about hit detection.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6651	Posted - 2014.12.30 06:33:00 - [28] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: I think aim assist actually affects hit detection more than aiming:/ I'm looking at you Bolt Pistol. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 514	Posted - 2014.12.30 08:17:00 - [29] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: I think aim assist actually affects hit detection more than aiming:/ I'm looking at you Bolt Pistol. I've made kills with that thing without even hitting the enemy.... Changes to Damage mods!
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1676	Posted - 2014.12.30 08:48:00 - [30] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: I think aim assist actually affects hit detection more than aiming:/ I'm looking at you Bolt Pistol. aim assist != bullet magnetism

Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 515	Posted - 2014.12.30 08:59:00 - [31] - Quote Fixed this post with the one below Changes to Damage mods!
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 515	Posted - 2014.12.30 09:08:00 - [32] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: I think aim assist actually affects hit detection more than aiming:/ I'm looking at you Bolt Pistol. aim assist != bullet magnetism There is this video and this video Changes to Damage mods!
Sequal's Back Les Desanusseurs 43	Posted - 2014.12.30 09:47:00 - [33] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: I think aim assist actually affects hit detection more than aiming:/ Absolutely. This is why switching it off is such a pain. It doesn't help aiming so much, it helps this crappy hit detection to work a bit better. They need to fix their hit detection once and for all, and then take out AA. This could make the game even better than pre 1.4 (releasing of AA IIRC ^^).
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1677	Posted - 2014.12.30 12:44:00 - [34] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Jack McReady wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: I think aim assist actually affects hit detection more than aiming:/ I'm looking at you Bolt Pistol. aim assist != bullet magnetism There is this video and this video first of all, bullet magnetism is not the same as aim assist, what is the problem with comprehending that? second you can clearly see in the video that weapons dispersion made him hit, see that open crosshair in the middle? this is the ******* area you can hit with your weapons dispersion, the crosshair is displayed like that for a reason. beside that, there is also something called POINT OF VIEW and CONVERGENCE, both together make it appear he missed by a slight margin where he actually dont. man, this internet "wisdom" of some people...
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 482	Posted - 2014.12.30 16:04:00 - [35] - Quote AA-off. You can't pick out a single target within in a group with it on. If you fire on more than 2 enemies that are close together, like a logi/heavy combo, you can stand still & watch you line of fire bounce back & forth between the targets. Aim assist will screw you over. Turn it off & get good. Edit: didn't read all post before posting, but if this doesn't define bullet magnetism then nothing does. Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA Smart Deploy 136	Posted - 2014.12.30 17:10:00 - [36] - Quote I think there is nothing wrong with aim assist in this game as far ambiance goes. By that I mean that this game takes place in a place where technology is many times more advance than what we have. It would then make sense that soldiers have some sort of aim assist as well as other technological improvements to make them deadlier. If we where talking about a game that took place say during the civil war then I think the mechanics should had resembles the weapons and technology of that time. What I do see that this games lack is thermal or night vision. That should had been a counter to the cloaks or to see if there is anybody on the other side of that wall.
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 570	Posted - 2014.12.30 17:53:00 - [37] - Quote I turned off AA. Went 12/7 with AR and BuAR. Did better with AR. Over all I noticed little difference. But then again, I have never felt any benefits from AA before; my reticle doesn't ever turn red and lock on. Will continue this experiment. AKA - StarVenger
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2804	Posted - 2014.12.30 18:49:00 - [38] - Quote OP, Welcome to my life as a MKB user. We've got it hard.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5279	Posted - 2014.12.30 20:13:00 - [39] - Quote We don't need a speed nerf. We need a hot detection mega-buff.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 526	Posted - 2014.12.31 00:58:00 - [40] - Quote Joel II X wrote: We don't need a speed nerf. We need a hot detection mega-buff. First hit-detection. Changes to Damage mods!

PLAYSTTION F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. Smart Deploy 391	Posted - 2014.12.31 01:09:00 - [41] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: AA was the worst feature Dust ever got. Yup. its why they had to rebalance the entire game and fix TTK. Gassault Calogi - Ranked #763 on the forums `- Open Beta Vet - 33mil sp - - GFC, GJR Approved -`
Sergeant Sazu Nanite Systems 277	Posted - 2014.12.31 01:11:00 - [42] - Quote When I first loaded up the game on day 1 of open beta, I went through the settings before entering my first battle. I turned Aim Assaist off and I have never used it. No idea what it's like. I have trouble hitting Scouts in CQC sometimes, that's about it. Otherwise my gun game is alright. [37.4m SP - Next skill: Drop Uplink Deployment 4] Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Rising Minja - Scrub Sentinel
Regnier Feros Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 195	Posted - 2014.12.31 01:33:00 - [43] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: When I first loaded up the game on day 1 of open beta, I went through the settings before entering my first battle. I turned Aim Assaist off and I have never used it. No idea what it's like. I have trouble hitting Scouts in CQC sometimes, that's about it. Otherwise my gun game is alright. Your signature doesn't include the commando class :( I like pie do you like pie because i hate pie & I like muffins.
Sergeant Sazu Nanite Systems 278	Posted - 2014.12.31 01:39:00 - [44] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: Your signature doesn't include the commando class :( Sorry Reg, haven't used the Commando since 1.8. I would've put "Retired Commando", but there's this wonderful character limit. :( [37.4m SP - Next skill: Drop Uplink Deployment 4] Veteran Assault - Expert Logibro - Aspiring Minja - Scrub Sentinel
Vicious Minotaur 1627	Posted - 2014.12.31 01:43:00 - [45] - Quote Pffff. I play with my eyes closed. Those things are legitimately overpowered, way more so than stupid wittle 'aim assist.' The entire game is balanced around them, and even more insidiously, virtually every single game ever made is deigned with such an overpowered apparatus in mind. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles. 2451	Posted - 2014.12.31 03:17:00 - [46] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that. From what I have heard KBM has wonky aiming but they benefit from having the fastest strafe. Hehe...wonky...hehe. "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2807	Posted - 2014.12.31 13:01:00 - [47] - Quote Luna McDuffing wrote: I think there is nothing wrong with aim assist in this game as far ambiance goes. By that I mean that this game takes place in a place where technology is many times more advance than what we have. It would then make sense that soldiers have some sort of aim assist as well as other technological improvements to make them deadlier. If we where talking about a game that took place say during the civil war then I think the mechanics should had resembles the weapons and technology of that time. What I do see that this games lack is thermal or night vision. That should had been a counter to the cloaks or to see if there is anybody on the other side of that wall. At no point what so ever does it make sense that Your dropsuit is going to automate your movements of your body to the point where it helps you aim for you. It could make sense to have a weapon like Titanfall's pistol... Where bullets will arc and "Home" onto locked on targets.. But that is even balanced there... Please name a futuristic Movie even... where Technology is automating one's body to aim for them... At best you will get guns that have homing bullets or futuristic SIghts.... If we can't even choose what sights we have on our guns at this "Futuristic" stage. This kinda justification for this feature makes no sense.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 5918	Posted - 2014.12.31 13:08:00 - [48] - Quote Bethhy wrote: At no point what so ever does it make sense that Your dropsuit is going to automate your movements of your body to the point where it helps you aim for you. This is a fantasy sci-fi world... nothing has to make sense. "Science" in this world is basically a synonym for "magic". Bethhy wrote: If we can't even choose what sights we have on our guns at this "Futuristic" stage this kinda justification for this feature makes no sense. We're playing a version of alternate history. Technology developed down different paths. The technology for sights may have been underdeveloped in favor of other weapon systems. Using the "doesn't make sense" argument is idiotic in a world where we have micro-wormholes and inertia dampeners. My advice to you, playa...
Duke Noobiam The Dukes of Death 323	Posted - 2014.12.31 16:28:00 - [49] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that. From what I have heard KBM has wonky aiming but they benefit from having the fastest strafe. At some point, KB/M had raw input and there was no Aim Assist (and then there was Aim Assist that was terrible) and KBM users were raping controller players. People were switching from controller to KBM and seeing their KDR triple instantly. The perceived problem with Aim Assist right now is due to the fact that it is not implemented the same way it is in other shooters. In DUST it is actually much weaker than other shooters.
Union118 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 127	Posted - 2014.12.31 16:31:00 - [50] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that. Agreed leave Pc to Pc n PS3 to ps3. Its that simple. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)

Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5961	Posted - 2014.12.31 17:08:00 - [51] - Quote I never used AA and never will. pé¦pé½péªpâêpü»püäpüäpüêpéÆF¿Çpüúpüƒn+ƒ pü»püäpéÆF¿Çpüúpüªpâ¬péñpâòpâ½n+ü
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3342	Posted - 2014.12.31 17:13:00 - [52] - Quote Union118 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that. Agreed leave Pc to Pc n PS3 to ps3. Its that simple. It wouldn't change anything. Anyone who is even halfway serious about using a Keyboard and Mouse in Dust is not using the the stock KB/M controls, they are using a controller emulator to take advantage of the far superior controls. If anything removing KB/M from the game would make the situation worse for you, as you would create awareness for these emulators for the small percentage of people who do mistakenly use the stock KB/M controls and likely many of them would switch over to an emulator and have a better experience.
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2439	Posted - 2014.12.31 18:38:00 - [53] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Luna McDuffing wrote: I think there is nothing wrong with aim assist in this game as far ambiance goes. By that I mean that this game takes place in a place where technology is many times more advance than what we have. It would then make sense that soldiers have some sort of aim assist as well as other technological improvements to make them deadlier. If we where talking about a game that took place say during the civil war then I think the mechanics should had resembles the weapons and technology of that time. What I do see that this games lack is thermal or night vision. That should had been a counter to the cloaks or to see if there is anybody on the other side of that wall. At no point what so ever does it make sense that Your dropsuit is going to automate your movements of your body to the point where it helps you aim for you. It could make sense to have a weapon like Titanfall's pistol... Where bullets will arc and "Home" onto locked on targets.. But that is even balanced there... Please name a futuristic Movie even... where Technology is automating one's body to aim for them... At best you will get guns that have homing bullets or futuristic SIghts.... If we can't even choose what sights we have on our guns at this "Futuristic" stage. This kinda justification for this feature makes no sense. There is this disturbing RL example. When dropsuits do come along it won't be much of a leap to extend the controls to the suit. PSN: RationalSpark
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 718	Posted - 2014.12.31 19:37:00 - [54] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Luna McDuffing wrote: I think there is nothing wrong with aim assist in this game as far ambiance goes. By that I mean that this game takes place in a place where technology is many times more advance than what we have. It would then make sense that soldiers have some sort of aim assist as well as other technological improvements to make them deadlier. If we where talking about a game that took place say during the civil war then I think the mechanics should had resembles the weapons and technology of that time. What I do see that this games lack is thermal or night vision. That should had been a counter to the cloaks or to see if there is anybody on the other side of that wall. At no point what so ever does it make sense that Your dropsuit is going to automate your movements of your body to the point where it helps you aim for you. It could make sense to have a weapon like Titanfall's pistol... Where bullets will arc and "Home" onto locked on targets.. But that is even balanced there... Please name a futuristic Movie even... where Technology is automating one's body to aim for them... At best you will get guns that have homing bullets or futuristic SIghts.... If we can't even choose what sights we have on our guns at this "Futuristic" stage. This kinda justification for this feature makes no sense. If you ever read the novel halo then you'd know that cortina can do this for master chief. Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 718	Posted - 2014.12.31 19:46:00 - [55] - Quote My aim sucks with or without aim assist Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
PLAYSTTION F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. Smart Deploy 394	Posted - 2014.12.31 20:29:00 - [56] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: When I first loaded up the game on day 1 of open beta, I went through the settings before entering my first battle. I turned Aim Assaist off and I have never used it. No idea what it's like. I have trouble hitting Scouts in CQC sometimes, that's about it. Otherwise my gun game is alright. Aim assist didn't exist i Open beta. It might have but i thought it was added last fall. Gassault Calogi - Ranked #763 on the forums `- Open Beta Vet - 33mil sp - - GFC, GJR Approved -`
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1996	Posted - 2014.12.31 20:50:00 - [57] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: Sergeant Sazu wrote: When I first loaded up the game on day 1 of open beta, I went through the settings before entering my first battle. I turned Aim Assaist off and I have never used it. No idea what it's like. I have trouble hitting Scouts in CQC sometimes, that's about it. Otherwise my gun game is alright. Aim assist didn't exist i Open beta. It might have but i thought it was added last fall. The option was there but it didn't do anything until Uprising 1.0 was released. [RYJC]
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2348	Posted - 2014.12.31 22:33:00 - [58] - Quote Miokai Zahou wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: AA was the worst feature Dust ever got. Agree Speed strafing is the worst feature Dust ever got. I liked you and Deadly, they should both go away. Amarr/Minmatar vehicles are OP (especially Minmatar speed tanks) ^The reason why CCP is afraid to release them
SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 743	Posted - 2014.12.31 23:03:00 - [59] - Quote Considering that the AA in DUST is much weaker than the AA in most FPS games I do not understand the complaints. I think the OP needs to do a lot more testing before coming to his conclusions. I doubt that if he played for a week each way the difference would be that great. It is far more likely that this is just the normal spread you have in games depending on the circumstances of the match.
SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 743	Posted - 2014.12.31 23:05:00 - [60] - Quote Also, there is no strafing issue. People are able to move like this in real life so why would you want it removed from the game? Last time they removed strafing it was horrible. It made you feel as if you could no longer turn at the hip like a real person.



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