DUST Search - I decided to play with Aim Assist off

Raptor Princess wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Buwaro Draemon wrote:

And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all.

I turnee it back on and when 19/3
With AA off I went 3/7 or so on

Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should.

Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf.

It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK Ugh

I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too...

Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that.

It's not as easy to aim with KB/M as you think! Keeping it steady is a challenge at times and actually getting the bullet to hit the target is sometimes super frustrating. It's as though the head of players can magically position itself between two pixels so you have no chance of hitting them sometimes.

I actually played with a controller the other day for the first time in months. I was able to kill people pretty easy at close quarters! I can't seem to aim properly at speed with a mouse when I'm less than 100m away from my opponent. I'm great at spray and pray (but the Dust Gods rarely answer my prayers!) Even sneaking up behind an enemy sniper and headshotting them at 5-10m takes ages with KB/M compared to controller. It's like my merc has a tremor.

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Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 506	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:00:00 - [1] - Quote And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK Changes to Damage mods!
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6637	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:01:00 - [2] - Quote AA was the worst feature Dust ever got. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 506	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:03:00 - [3] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: AA was the worst feature Dust ever got. Agree Changes to Damage mods!
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6609	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:09:00 - [4] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that. Playing as : Calmando, Calscout & Calassault.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 506	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:12:00 - [5] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that. From what I have heard KBM has wonky aiming but they benefit from having the fastest strafe. Changes to Damage mods!
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1450	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:19:00 - [6] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that. Yea kill KB/M Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Give me da iskiez Gk0 Scout yay :)
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1672	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:40:00 - [7] - Quote cool story, except that the aim assist cannot keep up with strafe speeds and only works if you do not move your stick otherwise stick movement pretty much overwrites AA.
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo 30	Posted - 2014.12.30 00:50:00 - [8] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: cool story, except that the aim assist cannot keep up with strafe speeds and only works if you do not move your stick otherwise stick movement pretty much overwrites AA. Turn off AA, my accuracy and precision goes up !!! blame you AA !!!!
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6610	Posted - 2014.12.30 01:09:00 - [9] - Quote Aidualc wrote: Jack McReady wrote: cool story, except that the aim assist cannot keep up with strafe speeds and only works if you do not move your stick otherwise stick movement pretty much overwrites AA. Turn off AA, my accuracy and precision goes up !!! blame you AA !!!! Yeah, against Speed strafers. Now Try hitting at enemy at 80mts with a RR or a SCR... Or keep a laser on an enemy....good luck with that. Playing as : Calmando, Calscout & Calassault.
Miokai Zahou WarRavens Capital Punishment. 434	Posted - 2014.12.30 01:32:00 - [10] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: AA was the worst feature Dust ever got. Agree Speed strafing is the worst feature Dust ever got. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.

bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 1172	Posted - 2014.12.30 01:37:00 - [11] - Quote Zindorak wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F* that. Yea kill KB/M You obviously haven't played with KB/M, CCP has **** it up beyond repair, a real kb/m player playing with the current Dust translator is like controller players playing with out aim assist its complete garbage and jumps all over the place.....
knight guard fury Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1481	Posted - 2014.12.30 02:30:00 - [12] - Quote I've tried using kb/m and I am total **** at using it, but controller is a lot easier to use. The aiming with a mouse is very wierd and I'm not use to it. AA is somewhat helpful but I would rather it be merged to hell than just completely removed. OR CCP can stealth switch it off for everyone and let it still be an option SP earned perday/week
Patrick57 I Have No Idea What I'm Doing 9504	Posted - 2014.12.30 02:31:00 - [13] - Quote I think aim assist actually affects hit detection more than aiming:/ i fucking hate waffles
knight guard fury Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 1481	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:00:00 - [14] - Quote Just played with AA off in an ambush... Went 15/5. Get good I'm pretty much the same but slightly better with it on. It's more about aiming and skill than aiming than a bit takes care of the rest When AA is off SP earned perday/week
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 2052	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:02:00 - [15] - Quote I have it off, I'm tempted to turn it in and rek even more face Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14146	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:18:00 - [16] - Quote I tried going in with a newbie alt and turning off aim assist, to see how well I could do without any advantages. Went 31/2. That was before mu. I wasn't in Academy. There were enemy proto players. >Fuck Logic Edit: That was at my peak, when I used to play a LOT of DUST. So it might not be as ridiculous as it sounds now that I think about it, I am no where near as good as I was back then. Feline overlord of all humans Assault Conglomerate: Because we don't shave
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 509	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:20:00 - [17] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I tried going in with a newbie alt and turning off aim assist, to see how well I could do without any advantages. Went 31/2. That was before mu. I wasn't in Academy. There were enemy proto players. >Fuck Logic What type of people were you playing against with? Changes to Damage mods!
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14146	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:22:00 - [18] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I tried going in with a newbie alt and turning off aim assist, to see how well I could do without any advantages. Went 31/2. That was before mu. I wasn't in Academy. There were enemy proto players. >Fuck Logic What type of people were you playing against with? As I said, Proto stompers. I rarely keep track of names, everyone but the very best or people who are close to me are faceless to me. But as I said, that was at my peak, when I used to play a LOT of DUST. So it might not be as ridiculous as it sounds now that I think about it, I am no where near as good as I was back then. Feline overlord of all humans Assault Conglomerate: Because we don't shave
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 118	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:28:00 - [19] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I tried going in with a newbie alt and turning off aim assist, to see how well I could do without any advantages. Went 31/2. That was before mu. I wasn't in Academy. There were enemy proto players. >Fuck Logic Edit: That was at my peak, when I used to play a LOT of DUST. So it might not be as ridiculous as it sounds now that I think about it, I am no where near as good as I was back then. Well then turn it off on your main, and we'll all just sit back and watch you become a bag in the wind bursting like a firework or some ****...don't come in here and honeydick. Cats are useless" food whores"
Timtron Victory Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 141	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:30:00 - [20] - Quote I turned aim assist off and I use a controller, I enjoy my games more now Proud Christian Jesus Loves You

Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 14146	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:41:00 - [21] - Quote GLOBAL fils'de RAGE wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I tried going in with a newbie alt and turning off aim assist, to see how well I could do without any advantages. Went 31/2. That was before mu. I wasn't in Academy. There were enemy proto players. >Fuck Logic Edit: That was at my peak, when I used to play a LOT of DUST. So it might not be as ridiculous as it sounds now that I think about it, I am no where near as good as I was back then. Well then turn it off on your main, and we'll all just sit back and watch you become a bag in the wind bursting like a firework or some ****...don't come in here and honeydick. Cats are useless" food whores" I am 99% sure this was just a fluke. It was an amusing fluke, but I doubt I could repeat that consistently. Feline overlord of all humans Assault Conglomerate: Because we don't shave
Raptor Princess ALLOTEC INC 110	Posted - 2014.12.30 03:56:00 - [22] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that. It's not as easy to aim with KB/M as you think! Keeping it steady is a challenge at times and actually getting the bullet to hit the target is sometimes super frustrating. It's as though the head of players can magically position itself between two pixels so you have no chance of hitting them sometimes. I actually played with a controller the other day for the first time in months. I was able to kill people pretty easy at close quarters! I can't seem to aim properly at speed with a mouse when I'm less than 100m away from my opponent. I'm great at spray and pray (but the Dust Gods rarely answer my prayers!) Even sneaking up behind an enemy sniper and headshotting them at 5-10m takes ages with KB/M compared to controller. It's like my merc has a tremor.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2805	Posted - 2014.12.30 04:03:00 - [23] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK See I am fine with Aim assist in console games that are for enhancing controller aiming abilities in a quick die/respawn 1 shot headshot shoot'em up FPS game. The problem is more with DUST it's self. When you have a game like DUST where it is directly connected to the EVE Universe... Which is Computer Nerd heaven beyond any other video game out there.. Where stuff like This is built to play it Then you have a console game... Where CCP Knew these players where gonna play it... And they would want to use their Mouse and Keyboard.. So they thought to balance the DS3 Controller with the Mouse and Keyboard... And made the M&KB a emulation of the controller with limitations to balance them. Then CCP Added Aim assist... And it then unbalanced the Peripherals completely.... Aim assist is king... Now Mouse and Keyboard players go and buy a Xim4 And run a Mouse and Keyboard with Aim assist... Which is near having a toggled Aim bot set on your mouse... Here is what Xim4 does with Aim assist.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SfQEOj9ssU Now imagine DUST.. where it buffs Hit detection and gives near perfect bullet accuracy when the crosshairs are activated. Meh.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3271	Posted - 2014.12.30 04:12:00 - [24] - Quote Its really a HD fix... "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
DarK KNigHT007 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2014.12.30 04:14:00 - [25] - Quote Raptor Princess wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: And oh god it was the worse I have ever went in matches. Speed strafers became even more of a pain in the butt and my shots did not seem to be registering into targets at all. I turnee it back on and when 19/3 With AA off I went 3/7 or so on Which made me think how many people pkay with AA on and how AA helps you out more than it should. Now I would love it to be taken out of the game. But befote that strafing would need to get a speed nerf. It's just, now that I know how much AA helps you out, I feel cheap and dirty, but I also want to make more ISK I would support removing AA from the game...IF you remove K&M from the game too... Im not going to be aiming with my RR or SCR and missing while K&M users have just to point a mouse at my head....F*** that. It's not as easy to aim with KB/M as you think! Keeping it steady is a challenge at times and actually getting the bullet to hit the target is sometimes super frustrating. It's as though the head of players can magically position itself between two pixels so you have no chance of hitting them sometimes. I actually played with a controller the other day for the first time in months. I was able to kill people pretty easy at close quarters! I can't seem to aim properly at speed with a mouse when I'm less than 100m away from my opponent. I'm great at spray and pray (but the Dust Gods rarely answer my prayers!) Even sneaking up behind an enemy sniper and headshotting them at 5-10m takes ages with KB/M compared to controller. It's like my merc has a tremor. You are right ...just bcoz of aim assist nw i am trying to play with ds3.With kb/m hit detection is worse(especially combat rifles) and CR is good with aim assist .To me controller is superior than kb/m in this game
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2438	Posted - 2014.12.30 04:40:00 - [26] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: I think aim assist actually affects hit detection more than aiming:/ Agree. I think the motivation for our too-strong aim assist is a combination of hit detection/framerate/poor controls. PSN: RationalSpark
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3341	Posted - 2014.12.30 05:01:00 - [27] - Quote yep... aim assist is more about bullet magnetism and less about actual aim assist. Using a KB/M emulator like GIMX or XIM4 you will find the same results. Its not about aiming, its about hit detection.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6651	Posted - 2014.12.30 06:33:00 - [28] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: I think aim assist actually affects hit detection more than aiming:/ I'm looking at you Bolt Pistol. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 514	Posted - 2014.12.30 08:17:00 - [29] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: I think aim assist actually affects hit detection more than aiming:/ I'm looking at you Bolt Pistol. I've made kills with that thing without even hitting the enemy.... Changes to Damage mods!
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1676	Posted - 2014.12.30 08:48:00 - [30] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Patrick57 wrote: I think aim assist actually affects hit detection more than aiming:/ I'm looking at you Bolt Pistol. aim assist != bullet magnetism



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