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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2014.12.28 23:21:00 -
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we need these for more choice
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
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Posted - 2014.12.28 23:50:00 -
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All things considered, what would be the point?
Do not go gentle into that good night;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1826
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Posted - 2014.12.28 23:55:00 -
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offers up a threat to reliners and afkers or campers where waiting for a full strike would be a waste of time or resources. we have already seen how affective small flux is. this addition would just serve to give us more options. i would say though to reduce the radius so its only affective against those not being active
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Kain Spero
Goonfeet
4080
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Posted - 2014.12.29 03:21:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:All things considered, what would be the point?
Nuke the red line camper that doesn't know how to shoot and scoot.
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
14098

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Posted - 2014.12.29 05:12:00 -
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This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
7624
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Posted - 2014.12.29 05:40:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless.
They're certainly very useful and powerful, including the minor flux strike with it's two rounds. While certainly not useless it is very far from OP.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4230
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Posted - 2014.12.29 05:50:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless.
There is some concern however about the availability of the Minor Flux strike vs Shield vehicles, particularly HAVs. While there is imbalance between Shield and Armor HAVs, this does offer an unfair attack against Shield vehicles that players can pretty much spam constantly.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
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Cat Merc
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
14143
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Posted - 2014.12.29 07:26:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless. There is some concern however about the availability of the Minor Flux strike vs Shield vehicles, particularly HAVs. While there is imbalance between Shield and Armor HAVs, this does offer an unfair attack against Shield vehicles that players can pretty much spam constantly. Have you ever tried to hit a shield vehicle with a small flux?
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4232
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Posted - 2014.12.29 08:35:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless. There is some concern however about the availability of the Minor Flux strike vs Shield vehicles, particularly HAVs. While there is imbalance between Shield and Armor HAVs, this does offer an unfair attack against Shield vehicles that players can pretty much spam constantly. Have you ever tried to hit a shield vehicle with a small flux?
Oh I have, and I've been hit with them, and I've missed with them, and I've dodged them.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
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Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.12.29 09:19:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless. Why are Warbarge strikes back in Fac War? Please answer |
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SirManBoy
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
728
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Posted - 2014.12.29 10:33:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless. Every single one of the current Warbarge Strikes is fantastic in its own way. I absolutely love them all and look forward to having another option. |

DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance
768
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Posted - 2014.12.29 18:31:00 -
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why are we waiting for the implementation of a good thing? |

Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.29 22:32:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: Have you ever tried to hit a shield vehicle with a small flux?
Screw trying to hit vehicles, those things can barely take out a piece of equipment.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
3534
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Posted - 2014.12.29 22:46:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless. Yes, but as the OP said we need something between 300WP and 3000WP.
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance
770
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Posted - 2014.12.29 23:55:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless. Yes, but as the OP said we need something between 300WP and 3000WP.
400? 500?
how about 600? |

ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1831
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Posted - 2014.12.29 23:58:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:shaman oga wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless. Yes, but as the OP said we need something between 300WP and 3000WP. 400? 500? how about 600?
i was thinking 600WB/900laser
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
14145

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Posted - 2014.12.30 03:06:00 -
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the missing strikes are, according to our design
minor strike at 400 WP minor laser strike at 500 normal flux strike at 1500 normal strike at 2000 normal laser strike at 2500
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game RUST415
334
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Posted - 2014.12.30 03:12:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Cat Merc wrote: Have you ever tried to hit a shield vehicle with a small flux?
Screw trying to hit vehicles, those things can barely take out a piece of equipment.
1) got 2 kills on a jihad jeep with that little baby!
2) did 3000 shield damage to a gunnlogi, allowing me to 1 shot it with my IAFG!
those baby orbitals are cute.
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance
770
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Posted - 2014.12.30 04:27:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:the missing strikes are, according to our design
minor strike at 400 WP minor laser strike at 500 normal flux strike at 1500 normal strike at 2000 normal laser strike at 2500
how many shots for the minor and normal strikes respectively?
also, what happened to the strike that would deal MCC damage? was that scrapped? |

Kain Spero
Goonfeet
4099
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Posted - 2014.12.30 06:44:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Cat Merc wrote: Have you ever tried to hit a shield vehicle with a small flux?
Screw trying to hit vehicles, those things can barely take out a piece of equipment.
I took out a flying dropship with a small EMP strike. That impulse does fun stuff.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1834
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Posted - 2014.12.30 13:25:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:the missing strikes are, according to our design
minor strike at 400 WP minor laser strike at 500 normal flux strike at 1500 normal strike at 2000 normal laser strike at 2500
I don't know about having normal strikes. Where do they come into the picture. Are they precision strikes like the small flux or area of affect like the large strikes. A precise but area of effect strike like where I assume normals will be at that cost could be a little op.
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punksnowmash
The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION
46
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:45:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless. Why are Warbarge strikes back in Fac War? Please answer
This one I am curious about too, is it because lack of eve pilots willing to participate? |

taxi bastard
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
271
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:27:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless.
Rattati, give us solo players some love. If we make the WP let us use the orbitals.
Really not bothered with making a solo squad and locking it just to use them - it's unfair that I should have to do it when i have earned it. |

Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1190
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Posted - 2014.12.31 03:59:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless. What about Warbarge Strikes being available in the Faction Warfare setting? Is that intended?
CB Vet // True Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
405
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Posted - 2014.12.31 11:59:00 -
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punksnowmash wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless. Why are Warbarge strikes back in Fac War? Please answer This one I am curious about too, is it because lack of eve pilots willing to participate? The Dev saw our post but all we hear is crickets.CCP Rattili is posting on this thread. |

Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
405
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Posted - 2014.12.31 12:01:00 -
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Good link thank you also for asking this question and hopefully the OB bug will be fixed. |

Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
7645
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Posted - 2015.01.01 06:40:00 -
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punksnowmash wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless. Why are Warbarge strikes back in Fac War? Please answer This one I am curious about too, is it because lack of eve pilots willing to participate?
Probably more accurate to say it's because of a lack of Eve pilots -able- to participate. Having to be part of Faction Warfare by itself is asking a lot but not knowing where the battles are happening until they're halfway over is another factor.
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Sinboto Simmons
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
6996
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Posted - 2015.01.01 23:54:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:the missing strikes are, according to our design
minor strike at 400 WP minor laser strike at 500 normal flux strike at 1500 normal strike at 2000 normal laser strike at 2500 Can I ask how effective you plan on each being?
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
18111
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Posted - 2015.01.02 21:13:00 -
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punksnowmash wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless. Why are Warbarge strikes back in Fac War? Please answer This one I am curious about too, is it because lack of eve pilots willing to participate?
When was the last time an eve pilot striked your match?
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Regis Blackbird
DUST University Ivy League
506
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Posted - 2015.01.03 07:50:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:punksnowmash wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This has been designed and can be put into the game if and when we think the system is working well. All I hear is that players like the new Warbarge Strikes and they are neither OP nor useless. Why are Warbarge strikes back in Fac War? Please answer This one I am curious about too, is it because lack of eve pilots willing to participate? Probably more accurate to say it's because of a lack of Eve pilots -able- to participate. Having to be part of Faction Warfare by itself is asking a lot but not knowing where the battles are happening until they're halfway over is another factor.
As much as I hate to admit it, this is true. I also didn't like they re-introduced the Warbarge strike to FW, but until they fix this ^ it might be the right decision.
OBs from EVE was actually easier to pull off when FW was totally screwed up in Dust (Minmatar / Gallente having 100% of the districts). Then you could fairly easily predict where the battles were going to take place. But we don't want to go back to that.
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