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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.12.29 03:56:00 -
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Everyone has the access to the same gear and skill sets. Paying AUR doesn't net you a special AR with a 120m optimal range, 80 round clip, 2m splash radius, and no recoil.
Your argument is invalid. Please refrain from shitposting again in the future.
My advice to you, playa...
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.12.29 18:51:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:Nobody is denying that we all have access to the same skill sets, just that if you pay you have access to more skill sets in a shorter amount of time.
Also paying aur DOES "net you a special AR". They're called officer weapons and you can buy them by opening strongboxes. Strongboxes aren't the only place to earn officer weaponry and you can earn keys from missions and salvage. Buying AUR does not guarantee you an officer weapon, does it?
Paying money to have access to something sooner isn't pay-to-win. It's just being impatient. You could spend nothing on Dust 514 and still earn loyalty rank, SP, and ISK. It won't be as quick, but you can make yourself feel better with the knowledge that you aren't paying a dime for this game.
My advice to you, playa...
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.12.29 21:20:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:Nobody is saying strongboxes are the only place to earn officer weaponry. I'm saying someone who buys aurum can obtain a significant amount more than someone who doesn't and therefore can use them more consistently. I have opened 20 strongboxes in the last week. A whooping 2 of them contained officer gear.
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The rest was AUR advanced and standard gear in varying amounts. I think I got some proto Caldari assaults once.
Random numbers are a *****. "Significantly amount more" is a bit of an exaggeration.
Z3dog wrote:You can normally only earn keys in missions if you pay aurum and getting keys in salvage is incredibly rare. So far i have gotten 0 keys in salvage. I've gotten the 'Complete X missions to get: AUR key' several times. It's usually 8+ missions, which is a pain, but I earned them all the same. If I have seen the mission then others have too.
Z3dog wrote:Buying AUR statistically DOES guarantee you an officer weapon when you spend it on keys and strongboxes.
Paying money to have access to something sooner is p2w especially when non paying players have no hope to catch up to or keep pace with a regularly paying player. Loyalty rank is a good example. I know mercs who have not spent money on Dust and yet they somehow manage to kill people just fine. Sometimes it takes them a week longer to get into a fitting they want, but at the end of that week they saved money so it's a fair trade.
Everyone's skills cap at V. Once you get to 15 - 20mil SP they start to lose their value. You can fit more protosuits, but your core skills are all maxed now so it starts coming down to your gun game and if you are soloing or with a squad.
It should be noted, that an officer anything does not guarantee you a win. My squads take down people fielding officer weaponry... I don't care what officer weapon you have, when six core locus grenades get tossed at your feet, you die.
My advice to you, playa...
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.12.29 21:57:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:An officer weapon does not guarantee you a win and it doesn't need to. You only need to get an advantage that you payed for for it to be p2w. Not true. You need to get an advantage that is not possible unless you pay real money, for it to be a P2W game. Paying AUR doesn't give me guns that an ISK-only player will never, ever, ever see.
Z3dog wrote:Yeah keys are sometimes given out in small quantities if you complete 8-10 missions too bad pay to complete missions are almost always included. And if no keys are offered in a given day (which is more often than not) sucks for you if you don't want to pay to reroll. When daily missions first launched I got one of those instant booster missions every day. Now I don't see them nearly as often. I would like to hear other merc's experiences with how often they see these missions. I wonder if the chances are driven by how much AUR you have in your wallet...
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