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Rowdy Railgunner
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
473
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:11:00 -
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Daily mission:
Savant - Activate Instant Booster 2 times. |
Her Chosen
Grade No.2
188
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:25:00 -
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DUST 514 has always been pay-to-win.
STRONG BOX ROLE CALL
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
528
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:28:00 -
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I got one of those yesterday,
Savant - activate 1 instant booster - reward - 3 lockboxes
worst.reward.ever
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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Edau Skir2
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
200
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:32:00 -
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Pft. How is that Pay to win? So you get a few extra sp after buying some aurum. I'll say this once, loud and clear, so pay attention.
USING INSTANT BOOSTER WILL NOT GRANT YOU AUTOMATIC GOD STATUS. WE WILL ALL STILL KILL YOU JUST AS EASILY AS EVERYONE ELSE.
Resident pasty smasher
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1142
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:35:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:Daily mission:
Savant - Activate Instant Booster 2 times.
how is that pay to win? does it give you 100billion proto fits? maybe a lair full of sharks with frickin lazer beams? how is activating daily booster to receive either a datakey or a booster pay to win? tbh someone needs to get their prescription for stupid pills cancelled cos you're taking too many
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
622
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:37:00 -
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Another one.
Hey 'little' buddy. Now listen carefuly. Pay to win means having something for real $ that is better than stuff from game for ingame currency.
Now, go play some CoD. Over there =>
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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SILENT GIANT
FATHERS-AND-SONS
233
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:38:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:Daily mission:
Savant - Activate Instant Booster 2 times.
How is that p2w?
If you activate that booster will it bring you to a " YOU HAVE OFFICIALLY BEATEN DUST 514" screen?
Uhhhh, hey guess what? You don't have to activate booster and you still get to play game. Neat huh.
Go shoot people, its fun.
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Rowdy Railgunner
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
473
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:40:00 -
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It's pay to win because you can't complete the mission unless you pay for it. That is the very definition of pay to win. |
SILENT GIANT
FATHERS-AND-SONS
234
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:50:00 -
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I guess if you want to be all ocd about it, but that isn't really a mission and you dont win anything for completing it. Its a recent add on to the game to give you a stupid daily goal to work towards. The amount of sp you "win" by activating booster can be earned in your next battle by just spawning in.
Your not missing out on anything by not completing that particular mission. I promise you, Dust will still go on with or without activating that stupid booster.
Its not pay to win, unless you REALLY want to complete that particular mission. Then thats on you, but theres no special prize or leaderboard or anything to "WIN" by doing anything other than helping your team achieve that "VICTORY" screen. |
PhantomStranger74
B.O.S.S.GD
0
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:53:00 -
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I have won only 3 decryptor keys since this"strong box" things came into existence. i have well over 350 strong boxes . i can't pay for keys .Im poor.PLEASE INCREASE THE DROP RATE FOR THE KEYS, IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE EVERYMATCH LIKE YOU DROP THE IA5 PISTOL. GIVE MORE KEYS AWAY DURING MISSIONS . I GOT A OMEGA BOOSTER ,TURNED IT ON AND THE NETWORK GOT HACKED!!!!!
BretherenOfferingSelflesssSacrifice
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Edau Skir2
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
201
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Posted - 2014.12.28 14:58:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:It's pay to win because you can't complete the mission unless you pay for it. That is the very definition of pay to win.
Completing that mission nets you nothing useful anyway. All my savant missions have been rewarding me with 1-Day Passive boosters, plus you only have to do three to get the Bonus reward. It's most certainly not p2w, it's more like "Pay to receive optional extra"
Resident pasty smasher
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SILENT GIANT
FATHERS-AND-SONS
235
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Posted - 2014.12.28 15:12:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Rowdy Railgunner wrote:It's pay to win because you can't complete the mission unless you pay for it. That is the very definition of pay to win. Completing that mission nets you nothing useful anyway. All my savant missions have been rewarding me with 1-Day Passive boosters, plus you only have to do three to get the Bonus reward. It's most certainly not p2w, it's more like "Pay to receive optional extra"
P2ROE 
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1644
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Posted - 2014.12.28 15:20:00 -
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Tell me why you feel that in order to dominate other players you have to complete that mission?
Pro-choice!
For hazardous self-activated inertial dampeners!
We want to live on the edge (((of MCC)))
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
3526
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Posted - 2014.12.28 15:39:00 -
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This only proves that daily mission are still dumb and randomly generated.
Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
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El Supermano
Mexican Justice League
2
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Posted - 2014.12.28 15:40:00 -
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It isn't pay to win, it's pay to win sooner than you normally would. You will still get destroyed by people that have put in the time since the beginning because, sp is easy mode.
Has the ability to leap a hundred lowriders in a single bound.
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V1RONXSS
X-SENSE Security
31
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Posted - 2014.12.28 17:51:00 -
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Well, yes, its pay2win as any other free2play game, but must admit to be fair, CCP still doing it way more delicate.
Reward u get from this mission is an item u can obtain other way, or if its a booster, well than you wish item that give you advantage over the other players who use isk only and on other side u still dont like p2w?
The "Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
805
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:10:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Rowdy Railgunner wrote:It's pay to win because you can't complete the mission unless you pay for it. That is the very definition of pay to win. Completing that mission nets you nothing useful anyway. All my savant missions have been rewarding me with 1-Day Passive boosters, plus you only have to do three to get the Bonus reward. It's most certainly not p2w, it's more like "Pay to receive optional extra"
I had an Omega Booster tied to one of those missions before...
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Z3dog
BIG BAD W0LVES
90
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:19:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Rowdy Railgunner wrote:It's pay to win because you can't complete the mission unless you pay for it. That is the very definition of pay to win. Completing that mission nets you nothing useful anyway. All my savant missions have been rewarding me with 1-Day Passive boosters, plus you only have to do three to get the Bonus reward. It's most certainly not p2w, it's more like "Pay to receive optional extra"
uhhh no. You often have to do all 10 to get the bonus reward.
Dust 5/14
Bandwidth lol
And totally not p2w hahaha
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Piercing Serenity
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
795
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:20:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:It's pay to win because you can't complete the mission unless you pay for it. That is the very definition of pay to win.
These missions are not integral to the game. You get (basically) the same salvage that everyone else can get, a little bit of SP, and some ISK.
By this logic, the loyalty ranks would be pay to win as well, because you get X% more from selling assets.
Closed Beta Vet (E3 Build), Former PFBHz
Best Corps Battled (Personally): Imperfects, TeamPlayers, Hellstorm
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Z3dog
BIG BAD W0LVES
90
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:32:00 -
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Piercing Serenity wrote:Rowdy Railgunner wrote:It's pay to win because you can't complete the mission unless you pay for it. That is the very definition of pay to win. These missions are not integral to the game. You get (basically) the same salvage that everyone else can get, a little bit of SP, and some ISK. By this logic, the loyalty ranks would be pay to win as well, because you get X% more from selling assets.
Strongboxes and keys (which can be one from the aurum missions) are essentially a way for wallet warriors to purchase officer weapons. I've already seen a dramatic increase in officer weapons in pub matches.
And yes the loyalty ranks are a p2w feature not only because you get X% from selling assets, but other advantages including skillpoints. Because of the disproportionate influence aurum has over loyalty ranks it should be either tweaked or removed. I prefer removed.
Her Chosen wrote:DUST 514 has always been pay-to-win.
support needed
Dust 5/14
Bandwidth lol
And totally not p2w hahaha
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Kain Spero
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:34:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Pft. How is that Pay to win? So you get a few extra sp after buying some aurum. I'll say this once, loud and clear, so pay attention.
USING INSTANT BOOSTER WILL NOT GRANT YOU AUTOMATIC GOD STATUS. WE WILL ALL STILL KILL YOU JUST AS EASILY AS EVERYONE ELSE.
And you'll like it.
Owner of Spero Escrow Services
Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
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Z3dog
BIG BAD W0LVES
90
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:34:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Pft. How is that Pay to win? So you get a few extra sp after buying some aurum. I'll say this once, loud and clear, so pay attention.
USING INSTANT BOOSTER WILL NOT GRANT YOU AUTOMATIC GOD STATUS. WE WILL ALL STILL KILL YOU JUST AS EASILY AS EVERYONE ELSE.
You over here
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2541995#post2541995
Dust 5/14
Bandwidth lol
And totally not p2w hahaha
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LAVALLOIS Nash
QcGOLD
379
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:35:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:It's pay to win because you can't complete the mission unless you pay for it. That is the very definition of pay to win.
Well no, because completion of the jobs is an optional activity and does not tie in as a necessary requirement for progression. Your SP accumulation will not be frozen due to a job not being completed.
Also factor in that its very rare, but a key could show up in the after game salvage. If that happens to a player who never spent AUR ever, then infact, this game remains free to play. The only payment options are just incase you feel like leapfrogging a little bit. In that you can wait your turn for a free salvage key, or you can buy some boosters and get it included.
If it was truly pay to win, the skillbooks and SP trainers for proto would require AUR to unlock. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3623
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:44:00 -
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Trying to understand what people expect the aurum to be used for? /thread
Shield tanking is hard mode /period.
> Check RND out here
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Z3dog
BIG BAD W0LVES
90
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:47:00 -
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:Rowdy Railgunner wrote:It's pay to win because you can't complete the mission unless you pay for it. That is the very definition of pay to win. Well no, because completion of the jobs is an optional activity and does not tie in as a necessary requirement for progression. Your SP accumulation will not be frozen due to a job not being completed. Also factor in that its very rare, but a key could show up in the after game salvage. If that happens to a player who never spent AUR ever, then infact, this game remains free to play. The only payment options are just incase you feel like leapfrogging a little bit. In that you can wait your turn for a free salvage key, or you can buy some boosters and get it included. If it was truly pay to win, the skillbooks and SP trainers for proto would require AUR to unlock.
It is not an optional activity for people who don't spend money. It's irrelevant that your SP won't be locked when someone who put in equal effort gets more of a benefit because they payed real money.
Yes keys are very rare and strongboxes are common. This is the problem. Statistically only people who buy aurum will benefit largely from rare items. And then you said it yourself "or you can BUY some boosters and GET it included"
Wrong again. It needs only to provide an advantage to be p2w.
Dust 5/14
Bandwidth lol
And totally not p2w hahaha
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Z3dog
BIG BAD W0LVES
90
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Posted - 2014.12.28 20:51:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Trying to understand what people expect the aurum to be used for? /thread
I expect it to be used for things that don't give advantages unattainable to non paying players.
Dust 5/14
Bandwidth lol
And totally not p2w hahaha
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
1290
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:08:00 -
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Only time I see those and I think, "Well that's edging in PTW..." Is when it's that you need to activate it 5 times, and it gives you an omega booster plus 45,000 sp. That's a lot of potential sp for AUR.
O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
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Edau Skir2
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
212
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:20:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:Edau Skir2 wrote:Rowdy Railgunner wrote:It's pay to win because you can't complete the mission unless you pay for it. That is the very definition of pay to win. Completing that mission nets you nothing useful anyway. All my savant missions have been rewarding me with 1-Day Passive boosters, plus you only have to do three to get the Bonus reward. It's most certainly not p2w, it's more like "Pay to receive optional extra" uhhh no. You often have to do all 10 to get the bonus reward.
As the OP is clearly talking about his missions today, it's not all 10 because of the Christmas event.
Resident pasty smasher
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
6693
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:51:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:Pft. How is that Pay to win? So you get a few extra sp after buying some aurum. I'll say this once, loud and clear, so pay attention.
USING INSTANT BOOSTER WILL NOT GRANT YOU AUTOMATIC GOD STATUS. WE WILL ALL STILL KILL YOU JUST AS EASILY AS EVERYONE ELSE.
Would you agree with people being able to instantly buy as much SP as they would like then?
CBM
[Event]Dust Hunger Games
PC, ISK,EVE, Corp Services
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First Prophet
Followers of The Prophet
2193
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Posted - 2014.12.28 21:57:00 -
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Rowdy Railgunner wrote:It's pay to win because you can't complete the mission unless you pay for it. That is the very definition of pay to win.
Ha. You know what, I'm convinced now. Dust is Pay2win confirmed.
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