DUST Search - Loyalty Rank Metrics: A Guide

the SyntaxError wrote:

Kaze Eyrou wrote:

Recently, there were reports of Character Loyalty Ranks being lost (points shown actually INCREASING instead of DECREASING), so I decided to put it to the test. Here are my findings:

First, I used two characters that I already have. My main character, Kaze Eyrou, and a quickly made alt.

Alt Loyalty Rank:
4 Oct: 280,333 to go
5 Oct: N/A (Control Variable)
6 Oct: N/A (Control Variable)
7 Oct: 280,333 to go
8 Oct: N/A (Control Variable)
9 Oct: 280,333 to go

As you can see, even if you miss a day, your character loyalty rank ~~will not~~ should not drop (increase points shown) by 250 points. If this happens, this is most likely a UI bug. If you have taken pictures of it and there was a discrepancy, please FILE A SUPPORT TICKET to have them look at your account.

Hi Kaze

Have they change this or is it different if you not playing in 4-5 days?

My story short:
* I had finally got to loyalty rank 2, and about 400 points beyond.
* I log in everyday to get that 6.000 sp bonus (and exp weapons) but do not play everyday.
* Couple days ago (last week) I intended to send over my stuff to another character, but suddenly I was back to loyalty rank 1!?
* I thought it was enough to log in for those daily loyalty points, didn-¦t know you have to play x-amount of battles

Can you tell if this was normal or is it a ticket case?

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Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1164	Posted - 2014.12.27 03:52:00 - [1] - Quote With Uprising 1.9, your Character will gain a Loyalty Rank based on your Lifetime Battles, Wins, War Points and Aurum spent. However, some of us aren't happy with a simple description. We want to know exacts and specifics sometimes. Fortunately, Toadfox BlacKen, Cornelius, and myself set out to figure out the exact metrics that raise your Loyalty Rank. Firstly, many people read the points as a total of how many Loyalty Points they have in total. This is not the case as it instead measures how many Loyalty Rank Points until your next rank. This means that the numeric given will go down as your reach your next rank, not the other way around. 2 Aurum = 1 Loyalty Rank Point(credit to Toadfox) For example, Aurum spent on an item that cost 1,000 Aurum would grant you 500 Loyalty Rank points. Note that the text does say "purchasing Aurum", the actual purchase of the Aurum does not raise your Loyalty Rank. Only after spending the said Aurum will it contribute toward your Loyalty Rank. Logging In = 5 Loyalty Rank Points Pretty straight foward, when you login, you are awarded 5 points. This is logging in for the day; further consecutive logins during the same time period (between regular server downtime) will not increase it. Similar to the Daily Login Skillpoint bonus. Fighting in a battle = 2 Loyalty Rank Points When you fight in a battle from beginning to end, you are awarded 2 Loyalty Rank points. (We didn't test if you join in the middle of a battle; each time we tested, they were fresh battles.) Winning the battle = +2 Loyalty Rank Points This means, along with fighting in a battle, you can additionally earn 2 more Loyalty Rank points by winning the battle for your team for a total 4 Loyalty Rank points. (As above, this was tested in fresh battles and we haven't tested joining in the middle of a battle.) Every 500 WP earned in battle = +1 Loyalty Rank Point This means, on top of participating in a battle, you can further earn Loyalty Rank points. Some examples: 275 WP = 0 Loyalty Rank Points 704 WP = 1 Loyalty Rank Points 1052 WP = 2 Loyalty Rank Points (These are not arbitrary numbers and this exact amount of WPs were taken from the games I played. After subtracting for participation - and winning if applicable - Loyalty Rank point gains, it seems to grant you a Loyalty Rank point for every 500 WP milestone in a battle.) Pretty easy and short guide, but hopefully this sheds some light on the Loyalty Ranks and how to further their Loyalty Ranks. (As a small closing note, you may have heard some people, including myself, reference this as an "Aurum Bar". This is because of how heavily skewed this is toward a user who has purchased and used Aurum on this game.) CB Vet // True Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Learning Coalition and RTG Mentor
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6838	Posted - 2014.12.27 04:46:00 - [2] - Quote If anyone comes across other figures like how many Loyalty Points you get for buying a booster etc. that would be very beneficial to add as well. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1167	Posted - 2014.12.27 05:04:00 - [3] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: If anyone comes across other figures like how many Loyalty Points you get for buying a booster etc. that would be very beneficial to add as well. Buying a booster would be the along the same lines as using Aurum. For example, if you purchased a 7-day Active Booster for 5,000 Aurum, you would receive 2,500 Loyalty Rank points. CB Vet // True Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Learning Coalition and RTG Mentor
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15335	Posted - 2015.01.30 23:57:00 - [4] - Quote Thanks. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
xavier zor Rogue Instincts 478	Posted - 2015.02.03 05:02:00 - [5] - Quote bump looking for PC corporation also looking for lonely heavies to knife >:) heavies looking for me
XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H 106	Posted - 2015.02.04 01:37:00 - [6] - Quote This is awesome stuff Kaze, could you make a warbarge guide next? Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H Recruitment Minmatar Assault
Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 1901	Posted - 2015.02.04 01:43:00 - [7] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: This is awesome stuff Kaze, could you make a warbarge guide next? I'll see what I can do, but I haven't invested heavily into Warbarges so I still have a Level 1 Warbarge with a Level 1 Mobile Factory. The Warbarge is something I see I'll be able to max out eventually without having to spend Aurum on it. I'm a patient guy. That said, if a Warbarge guide doesn't appear soon, I'll whip one up. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H 107	Posted - 2015.02.04 01:45:00 - [8] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: This is awesome stuff Kaze, could you make a warbarge guide next? I'll see what I can do, but I haven't invested heavily into Warbarges so I still have a Level 1 Warbarge with a Level 1 Mobile Factory. The Warbarge is something I see I'll be able to max out eventually without having to spend Aurum on it. I'm a patient guy. That said, if a Warbarge guide doesn't appear soon, I'll whip one up. Awesome, can't wait. Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H Recruitment Minmatar Assault
TaaSr GunZ Dark Republic Academy 2	Posted - 2015.02.07 03:31:00 - [9] - Quote Do we get 195 loyalty points for fighting a faction battle? If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck...
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 2111	Posted - 2015.02.07 04:13:00 - [10] - Quote TaaSr GunZ wrote: Do we get 195 loyalty points for fighting a faction battle? No, those are points towards the faction loyalty store, not loyalty ranks. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

TaaSr GunZ Dark Republic Academy 3	Posted - 2015.02.08 04:28:00 - [11] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: TaaSr GunZ wrote: Do we get 195 loyalty points for fighting a faction battle? No, those are points towards the faction loyalty store, not loyalty ranks. Thanks for the clarification =ƒÿè If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck...
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 935	Posted - 2015.02.08 09:36:00 - [12] - Quote Having just hit lvl 11 (Brigadier) I'd be curious to see what the other "titles" are all the way to 15?
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3154	Posted - 2015.02.09 21:50:00 - [13] - Quote What a great post. Add the # of points for each successive level, and this would become a one stop shop for loyalty..... I hope you're well, my friend. Miss u. No homo.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1769	Posted - 2015.02.17 00:10:00 - [14] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: 2 Aurum = 1 Loyalty Rank Point. (credit to Toadfox) For example, Aurum spent on an item that cost 1,000 Aurum would grant you 500 Loyalty Rank points. Note that the text does say "purchasing Aurum", the actual purchase of the Aurum does not raise your Loyalty Rank. Only after spending the said Aurum will it contribute toward your Loyalty Rank. Confirming that. Reporting that as a bug. Because, either the Loyalty gain is bugging, OR there is a bug (typo) in the text. Ahh the inertial dampeners are back to normal! ^ ^ Thank you.
Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 1957	Posted - 2015.02.17 19:14:00 - [15] - Quote Just a quick update, Loyalty Rank Points are not being given anymore due to a big that has popped up today. This means Loyalty Ranks are frozen at the moment. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 2046	Posted - 2015.02.28 23:45:00 - [16] - Quote Bump. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
Blake Kingston Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 209	Posted - 2015.03.02 09:21:00 - [17] - Quote Is that some of the worst incentive design - you hide how your incentive actually works and you don't make it update after doing the things you want the player to do - you make it update much latter?
Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 2060	Posted - 2015.03.02 14:15:00 - [18] - Quote Blake Kingston wrote: Is that some of the worst incentive design - you hide how your incentive actually works and you don't make it update after doing the things you want the player to do - you make it update much latter? I'm not sure I understand... CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 2119	Posted - 2015.04.17 16:47:00 - [19] - Quote Stealth bump CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 6421	Posted - 2015.04.27 13:37:00 - [20] - Quote The effect of AUR was fairly easy to figure out. I am glad someone went to the effort to figure out some of the other factors that effect Loyalty Rank. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Full Rampage The Storm Knights 0	Posted - 2015.05.05 02:32:00 - [21] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: 2 Aurum = 1 Loyalty Rank Point. (credit to Toadfox) For example, Aurum spent on an item that cost 1,000 Aurum would grant you 500 Loyalty Rank points. Note that the text does say "purchasing Aurum", the actual purchase of the Aurum does not raise your Loyalty Rank. Only after spending the said Aurum will it contribute toward your Loyalty Rank. I know alot of people (myself included) thought it was bogus that the only practical way to boost loyalty ranks was through buying AU (sure as pointed out above you got points for SPENDING it, but the only way to get it TO spend was to buy it) but with Warlords 1.1 when they start handing out the daily AU bonus (and with the Triathalon event getting it for certain daily missions, hopefully that means that bonus AU will enter the rewards rotation even afterwards) this rule now makes more sense, since we'll be able to earn AU for free. There is no joy like plasma blasting a guy in the face during the middle of his dramatic monologue.
Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 2202	Posted - 2015.05.17 04:09:00 - [22] - Quote Updated values that was cross referenced with Cross Atu. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 2	Posted - 2015.08.14 19:45:00 - [23] - Quote Non-locking bump. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.09.27 00:39:00 - [24] - Quote Contrary to my previous report, as of Warlords 1.2 (just before hotfix foxfour) Rank is no longer accumulated thru spending AUR. It is now thru buying AUR. (confirmed by my two alt accounts to whom I bought elite packs when they were at discount. Both instantly hit L6 if I recall correctly) Video proof: https://youtu.be/-SIHY3VoHwg The OP needs to be updated. (took a while to look what I wrote previously, but apparently CCP changed it) KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading.
Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2015.09.27 19:04:00 - [25] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Contrary to my previous report, as of Warlords 1.2 (just before hotfix foxfour) Rank is no longer accumulated thru spending AUR. It is now thru buying AUR. (confirmed by my two alt accounts to whom I bought elite packs when they were at discount. Both instantly hit L6 if I recall correctly) Video proof: https://youtu.be/-SIHY3VoHwg The OP needs to be updated. (took a while to look what I wrote previously, but apparently CCP changed it) Thanks for the info! Updating now. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2015.10.09 17:05:00 - [26] - Quote Recently, there were reports of Character Loyalty Ranks being lost (points shown actually INCREASING instead of DECREASING), so I decided to put it to the test. Here are my findings: First, I used two characters that I already have. My main character, Kaze Eyrou, and a quickly made alt. Kaze Eyrou Loyalty Points: 4 Oct: 248,025 to go 5 Oct: 248,025 to go 6 Oct: 248,020 to go 7 Oct: 248,015 to go 8 Oct: 247,982 to go (I had played some matches the preceding day) 9 Oct: 247,955 to go Alt Loyalty Rank: 4 Oct: 280,333 to go 5 Oct: N/A (Control Variable) 6 Oct: N/A (Control Variable) 7 Oct: 280,333 to go 8 Oct: N/A (Control Variable) 9 Oct: 280,333 to go As you can see, even if you miss a day, YOUR CHARACTER LOYALTY RANK WILL NOT DROP (increase points shown) BY 250 POINTS. If this happens, this is most likely a UI bug. If you have taken pictures of it and there was a discrepancy, please FILE A SUPPORT TICKET to have them look at your account. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 27	Posted - 2015.10.09 17:10:00 - [27] - Quote Highly theoretical progression of LRP required per rank: Rank 15: ~6 million Rank 14: ~3 million Rank 13: ~1.5 million Rank 12: ~750,000 Rank 11: ~325,000 Rank 10: ~150,000 Rank 9: ~75,000 Rank 8: ~38,000 Rank 7: ~19,000 Rank 6: ~9,000 Rank 5: ~5000 Rank 4: ~2500 Rank 3: ~1250 Rank 2: ~500 Rank 1: ~250 Really rough numbers but it appears to follow a rough progression of doubling every rank. I've got confirmed numbers for a few of the higher ranks but if anyone has data that doesn't fit this model, please speak up. Fun fact, by the way: This would suggest that to reach LR 15 you need to spend approximately -ú10,000. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2015.12.11 23:49:00 - [28] - Quote Getting reports of more people experiencing Loyalty Rank fluctuation. I will update this post and put it down as a "plausible" bug, meaning that this may or may not affect your character. Should it affect your character, please document it with numbers and/or pictures and file a ticket with CCP to have them look into your character. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2015.12.27 18:27:00 - [29] - Quote Zaurek has informed me that purchasing Aurum affects all the characters on your account, not just one character. Thanks Zaurek! CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
Jamie Survivors 1	Posted - 2015.12.28 18:31:00 - [30] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Zaurek has informed me that purchasing Aurum affects all the characters on your account, not just one character. Thanks Zaurek! I have a 4 mil Sp alt and it's at same Loualty Rank as my Main. So guess it doesn't matter as far as SP amounts, any alt on that account is same Loyalty Rank The larger player base is waiting! Port Dust 514 to PS4!

Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.01.02 06:36:00 - [31] - Quote Jamie Survivors wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: Zaurek has informed me that purchasing Aurum affects all the characters on your account, not just one character. Thanks Zaurek! I have a 4 mil Sp alt and it's at same Loualty Rank as my Main. So guess it doesn't matter as far as SP amounts, any alt on that account is same Loyalty Rank Hmm, that's odd. A couple of things I should mention though: When you make an alt, it gets the same amount of Loyalty Points as your highest LP character. However, they should be separate after that. I just tested and made an alt. The alt started with the same amount as my main, but after playing a couple of matches, my main's LP was higher than my alt's LP. Is there any way you can test that? CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
Trevor Hawks 101st Airborne Ressurected 3	Posted - 2016.01.18 22:59:00 - [32] - Quote So Loyalty Rank is the rank that appears beside a characters name? On my HUD it will read something like [Private First Class] Raze Mogis.... How do you promote/get promoted?? Is this it?
Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 3	Posted - 2016.01.19 05:00:00 - [33] - Quote Trevor Hawks wrote: So Loyalty Rank is the rank that appears beside a characters name? On my HUD it will read something like [Private First Class] Raze Mogis.... How do you promote/get promoted?? Is this it? Correct, your title of Private First Class is your Loyalty Rank. Remember that as you play, your character bar will fill up indicating your progress toward your next Loyalty Rank. While the bar fills up, the number will go down since it tells you the remaining points left to next rank, not the total Loyalty Rank points you have. You may also want to keep track of it too. There have been a couple of users that have reported some errors with progression. If you find your bar is decreasing (points to next level increases), make sure to file a ticket to have the GMs look at your account. CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou Kaze's Helpful Links
the SyntaxError Chaos Of W.A.R Shadow of Dust 13	Posted - 2016.04.08 09:17:00 - [34] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Recently, there were reports of Character Loyalty Ranks being lost (points shown actually INCREASING instead of DECREASING), so I decided to put it to the test. Here are my findings: First, I used two characters that I already have. My main character, Kaze Eyrou, and a quickly made alt. Alt Loyalty Rank: 4 Oct: 280,333 to go 5 Oct: N/A (Control Variable) 6 Oct: N/A (Control Variable) 7 Oct: 280,333 to go 8 Oct: N/A (Control Variable) 9 Oct: 280,333 to go As you can see, even if you miss a day, your character loyalty rank ~~will not~~ should not drop (increase points shown) by 250 points. If this happens, this is most likely a UI bug. If you have taken pictures of it and there was a discrepancy, please FILE A SUPPORT TICKET to have them look at your account. Hi Kaze Have they change this or is it different if you not playing in 4-5 days? My story short: * I had finally got to loyalty rank 2, and about 400 points beyond. * I log in everyday to get that 6.000 sp bonus (and exp weapons) but do not play everyday. * Couple days ago (last week) I intended to send over my stuff to another character, but suddenly I was back to loyalty rank 1!? * I thought it was enough to log in for those daily loyalty points, didn-¦t know you have to play x-amount of battles Can you tell if this was normal or is it a ticket case?
Kaze Eyrou DUST University Ivy League 3485	Posted - 2016.06.03 02:56:00 - [35] - Quote the SyntaxError wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: Recently, there were reports of Character Loyalty Ranks being lost (points shown actually INCREASING instead of DECREASING), so I decided to put it to the test. Here are my findings: First, I used two characters that I already have. My main character, Kaze Eyrou, and a quickly made alt. Alt Loyalty Rank: 4 Oct: 280,333 to go 5 Oct: N/A (Control Variable) 6 Oct: N/A (Control Variable) 7 Oct: 280,333 to go 8 Oct: N/A (Control Variable) 9 Oct: 280,333 to go As you can see, even if you miss a day, your character loyalty rank ~~will not~~ should not drop (increase points shown) by 250 points. If this happens, this is most likely a UI bug. If you have taken pictures of it and there was a discrepancy, please FILE A SUPPORT TICKET to have them look at your account. Hi Kaze Have they change this or is it different if you not playing in 4-5 days? My story short: * I had finally got to loyalty rank 2, and about 400 points beyond. * I log in everyday to get that 6.000 sp bonus (and exp weapons) but do not play everyday. * Couple days ago (last week) I intended to send over my stuff to another character, but suddenly I was back to loyalty rank 1!? * I thought it was enough to log in for those daily loyalty points, didn-¦t know you have to play x-amount of battles Can you tell if this was normal or is it a ticket case? Well at this point it doesn't matter... However, assuming this game was still running, I would have said "file a ticket". There was something wonky going on with it and many people were reporting it wasn't working properly. However, even after my own testing and finding nothing wrong on my end, I still received reports of it not working for some. My guess: it was something wrong with the coding where it was counting backwards instead of forwards. Any and all points you earned toward loyalty rank would actually make your character LOSE loyalty rank instead of gaining it. Just a guess though. In any case, come Project Nova, if they implement another such system, I'm going to keep a close eye on it. (Sorry for the extremely late reply too.) Long live Dust through Project Nova. Bang.


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