Literally we have no counter to infantry doing circles around us throwing grenades, remote explosives, strafing with forge guns, and bunny hopping with swarms. All we can do is run. Correct me if I'm wrong but where is the Tank in Tank?? I don't see a machine fine tuned to rip sh*t up and change the phase of the battle, I see a lightly armored vehicle getting shredded to bits by Minmatar Commandos with swarms sitting on buildings.


Lets just hope that when Marauders come, ya'll run fo your lives.

Sorry, swarm I win button NON-Vehicle drivers won't understand.

They weren't OP, you were rewarded for accuracy with a kill.

Wait, so let me get this straight, I'm not suppose to kill infantry easily except infantry can lock onto my tank from 175m away and have the computer guide missiles to tanks like a mom helps her child walk children and that is perfectly Ok. Well, since only 1% of the community are vehicle drivers, I expected punks like you to come here talk sh*t because you got all the support from the other 99% of the community.

Lets just see what CCP brings us pilots. If they say they are gonna rework vehicles, Then lets see. One major problem is -- There is just not enough useful skill books & way too many skill books that are meaningless.

For example, We could get a Skill Book for the blaster which its sole purpose is to reduce dispersion.

I think Armor hardeners should get a skill book too. Something to make armor hardeners absorb more damage. In fact, I think the armor vehicles should all go back to where they were. Active repair & passive resistances. Cause their recovery system is far too crippled to survive from AV with the current meta. Almost all of the AV & turrets are designed to wipe out armor -- Which really isn't fair for those who love to pilot in armor. Personally, I am a Shield loyalist, But I do see problems with armor & want equality.

Shield tanks recovery is fine. I don't think this should be altered.

ADSs need some of the nerf taken off.

Again, I think the main problems here is we don't have the modules, Skill Books or Upgraded Hulls to make a build suffice enough to our desires.

I understand perfectly.

You're a scrub pilot who's whining about the fact that AVers won't stand still so they can be an easy kill, that and/or the fact that you refuse to use Shielded vehicles to combat the high popularity of Anti-Armor weapons.

Did I miss anything?

Sorry, swarm I win button NON-Vehicle drivers won't understand.

Having large turrets as anti-infantry was was too much firepower, and it was OP. Large blasters have been changed with the intent of making them ant-vehicle now (not saying if it's good at it or not), and not for easily slaughtering infantry. Small turrets are the ones meant for killing infantry now since they deal damage similar to light weapons.

A counter for what? AV?

A Gunnlogi shouldn't be a counter for AV. Only a few of us can make it that cause we've piloted for so long. I see countless armor tanks wiped out EZ by swarms. They have a weak recovery system. You can't tell me you've come across an armor vehicle & haven't said,"Omnomnomnom, Warpoints here I come."

The only spiked Gunnlogis I see stick to the redline cause their recovery is so nerfed its staggering.

Gunnlogis that are sponged are the newer flavor of choice for taking out other tanks.

Gunnlogis with Boosters are a fantastic way to recover from AV. (Make sure you say a prayer for your boosters to work correctly before the match.)

Madrugars with high repair and STD 4000 armor still get wrecked by AV & have little to no chance of surviving tank battles. -- I see this frequently.

Madrugars with high armor but low repair can't repair through any DPS since most things kill armor & if ANY AV get involved with tank battles, You might as well not even get involved.

The only effective Madrugars I see nowadays are a strict balance between a repair, hardener & plate. A DMG mod & FI too. This fit can only be attained by millions upon millions of SP investments.

Like I said before, small turrets are not efficient at killing infantry. When they are efficient at killing infantry, Infantry just get them nerfed.