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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:23:00 -
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Until applied DPS gets anywhere near the DPS on paper none of this matters. |
deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:28:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Neither heavies nor HMG's are the real issues. The actual issues are that there is a disturbing population of proto sentinels with boundless HMG's running amok while being trailed by proto logistics, in public matches while squad synchronizing.
It does not help that they are now trailed by proto scouts with rep tools giving full 360 vision at no cost.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:36:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Until applied DPS gets anywhere near the DPS on paper none of this matters. Oh it must be so hard to apply that dps with such a low rate of fire....
Do a simple test the DPS applied by the HMG at optimal range is NOT what it is on paper.
If this is ever fixed then yea the HMG will need a big nerf.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:37:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Neither heavies nor HMG's are the real issues. The actual issues are that there is a disturbing population of proto sentinels with boundless HMG's running amok while being trailed by proto logistics, in public matches while squad synchronizing. It does not help that they are now trailed by proto scouts with rep tools giving full 360 vision at no cost. yeah scouts can just put all that e-war on to get "full 360 vision" and not sacrifice hp. Did you try shooting it?
That's so sweet you don't like what I say in one thread so you go attack all other posts. MMMM forum rage is the best rage.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.25 08:54:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:No, I don't like anything you're saying because you're spewing horse **** all over the place.
Yet you can not back up anything you say.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:05:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:No, I don't like anything you're saying because you're spewing horse **** all over the place. Yet you can not back up anything you say. Example? Still spewing horse ****.
Stupid Blueberry wrote:
when will you retards learn that the hitbox is fine? it's called netcode.
There are tons of videos and a large part of the player base that say other wise. Not only can you not back up your statement the contrary is well proven.
Go watch a video of Bons' Shotgun in action and say that hit detection is working as intended. |
deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:10:00 -
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Even Rattati has mentioned hit detection issues.
CCP Rattati wrote:After reading this thread, and going back and forth on the numbers, I am not so sure any more that armor is overall more viable than shield tanking. I do know that high speed high tanked roles suffer from hit detection issues/high strafe speeds. I may tackle that instead of a HP nerf of plates or a smaller HP nerf. I want players to use reactives and ferros so they will not be touched.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:32:00 -
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Her Chosen wrote:DPS is fine. Cut range down by 50% and call it balanced.
That much HP and DPS shouldn't be able to touch anything beyond 15m
The range can be a bit far reaching at times.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:50:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Even Rattati has mentioned hit detection issues. CCP Rattati wrote:After reading this thread, and going back and forth on the numbers, I am not so sure any more that armor is overall more viable than shield tanking. I do know that high speed high tanked roles suffer from hit detection issues/high strafe speeds. I may tackle that instead of a HP nerf of plates or a smaller HP nerf. I want players to use reactives and ferros so they will not be touched. Link where does he say caldari scout?
Stop grasping at straws.
It is no secret that minmatar and caldari suits benefit the most from these issues. According to you all hit detection is fine so what does it matter where a specific suit is mentioned.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.25 09:54:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:
when will you retards learn that the hitbox is fine? it's called netcode.
EXACT QUOTE
Flip flop on your statements much?
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.25 10:01:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:
when will you retards learn that the hitbox is fine? it's called netcode.
EXACT QUOTE Flip flop on your statements much? HITBOX =/= HIT DETECTION PLEASE LEARN TO READ
Yes the two DEFINITELY have nothing to do with each other.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.25 10:18:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:Yeah, moving away from the point, huh? All I said was that the caldari scout's hitbox was fine, because it is, and idiots like you can't seem to stop blaming it for their terrible gun game. The bad hit detection is not a direct result of the hitbox. The hitbox's effect is only tertiary. You have to factor in speed, hitbox size, and netcode lag. And have you ever stopped to consider the damage profile of your hmg? You know it's projectile, that it doesn't insta-gib shield tanked suits, right? Of course this wouldn't be an issue if you had a bit of gun-game.
Now you are just going in circles on "what you said" when its been exactly quoted above as well as making unfounded attacks in an attempt to back up your original argument. |
deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.25 10:29:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:Yeah, moving away from the point, huh? All I said was that the caldari scout's hitbox was fine, because it is, and idiots like you can't seem to stop blaming it for their terrible gun game. The bad hit detection is not a direct result of the hitbox. The hitbox's effect is only tertiary. You have to factor in speed, hitbox size, and netcode lag. And have you ever stopped to consider the damage profile of your hmg? You know it's projectile, that it doesn't insta-gib shield tanked suits, right? Of course this wouldn't be an issue if you had a bit of gun-game. Now you are just going in circles on "what you said" when its been exactly quoted above as well as making unfounded attacks in an attempt to back up your original argument. Yes, I have to keep saying it because you can't get it through your head. Unfounded attacks, sure, that's because I don't like you.
I get the impression you don't like a lot of people and the feelings are all quite mutual.
At least we know you were able to open one strong box and it was very full of butt hurt. |
deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.25 10:34:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:Yeah, moving away from the point, huh? All I said was that the caldari scout's hitbox was fine, because it is, and idiots like you can't seem to stop blaming it for their terrible gun game. The bad hit detection is not a direct result of the hitbox. The hitbox's effect is only tertiary. You have to factor in speed, hitbox size, and netcode lag. And have you ever stopped to consider the damage profile of your hmg? You know it's projectile, that it doesn't insta-gib shield tanked suits, right? Of course this wouldn't be an issue if you had a bit of gun-game. Now you are just going in circles on "what you said" when its been exactly quoted above as well as making unfounded attacks in an attempt to back up your original argument. Yes, I have to keep saying it because you can't get it through your head. Unfounded attacks, sure, that's because I don't like you. I get the impression you don't like a lot of people and the feelings are all quite mutual. At least we know you were able to open one strong box and it was very full of butt hurt. I just don't like stupid people. Even worse, ignorant people.
You must have a lot of trouble when you step in front of the mirror.
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