Ive always said that there should be a module that gives you a huge boost to armor regen after not taking damage for X seconds (10 probably), so that there is an alternative.

But in exchange, shield suits would need better inherent regen (esp. the minmitar...they SUCK at shield regen)

Myofibs will be slightly more competitive once the jump bonus is implemented, but I doubt anybody but scouts would be interested in that. Then there's also moving codebreakers to high slots, which we've been asking for for months... still hoping that change goes through.

Wait, a jump boost correct?!

OMG if I stack these on my heavy it might finally be able to jump over that ledge!

Wait, a jump boost correct?!

OMG if I stack these on my heavy it might finally be able to jump over that ledge!

*This is slightly off topic from your OP, which I believe should be considered*

From my perspective, the source of trouble between Armor and Shield balance is that armor is balanced around teamwork while shields are not balanced around anything. Map design has only exacerbated the issue.

When players armor tank, they have greater flexibility in battle. You can add all Armor HP modules to your low slots, and have a teammate with a repair tool to make up for your suit's weakness - low regeneration capabilities. You can fortify your position by having teammates drop triage hives at your feet. And yes, you can also use damage mods (Personally, I never use them and don't see the big reason for complaining).

When players shield tank, they suffer all of their penalties alone. There are no options for a Logi to reduce the Shield delay penalty that you incur if you stack all extenders, and there is no way for you to fortify yourself in a good position - based on your tank - if you so chose. Moreover, as has been mentioned many times before, shield regeneration lacks a damage threshold to stop the regen.

I am of the opinion that if you pit one armor tanker against one shield tanker, you would have no way of determining the victor before hand. You would have to take into account ranges, cover, etc. However, I am also of the opinion that if you put a team of pure armor tankers against a team of pure shield tankers, the armor tankers would win 8 times out of 10. That is where the imbalance lies, in my opinion

Ultimately, I think that shield tanking is balanced on a micro (1v1) level, and unbalanced on a macro (team) level.

Yes, a jump boost. Ratatti has all but confirmed it for next patch. I'm really really happy about it, I might just put myofibs in my high slots instead of damage or HP mods

Oh, look at that, an argument I can see merit in instead of the usual "ARMOR OP PLZ NURF LOOK AT DAT HP".

*This is slightly off topic from your OP, which I believe should be considered*

From my perspective, the source of trouble between Armor and Shield balance is that armor is balanced around teamwork while shields are not balanced around anything. Map design has only exacerbated the issue.

When players armor tank, they have greater flexibility in battle. You can add all Armor HP modules to your low slots, and have a teammate with a repair tool to make up for your suit's weakness - low regeneration capabilities. You can fortify your position by having teammates drop triage hives at your feet. And yes, you can also use damage mods (Personally, I never use them and don't see the big reason for complaining).

When players shield tank, they suffer all of their penalties alone. There are no options for a Logi to reduce the Shield delay penalty that you incur if you stack all extenders, and there is no way for you to fortify yourself in a good position - based on your tank - if you so chose. Moreover, as has been mentioned many times before, shield regeneration lacks a damage threshold to stop the regen.

I am of the opinion that if you pit one armor tanker against one shield tanker, you would have no way of determining the victor before hand. You would have to take into account ranges, cover, etc. However, I am also of the opinion that if you put a team of pure armor tankers against a team of pure shield tankers, the armor tankers would win 8 times out of 10. That is where the imbalance lies, in my opinion

Ultimately, I think that shield tanking is balanced on a micro (1v1) level, and unbalanced on a macro (team) level.

BURN THE WITCH!

Oh my god
An intelligent post on shield/armor balance

BURN IT WITH FIRE

There are so many shieldtankerswhiners that complain about Gallente and Amarr suits using Damage Mods, and they are completely moronic to do so. But they are also completely moronic in general, soo...
I mean, what else are they supposed to equip there besides Shield Extenders? Those are the only 2 modules that are actually helpful for them! Anything else would either be practically useless, or pointless without other mods.

Do you expect them to equip myofibrils and waddle at you so you can get easymode?
Do you expect them to equip rechargers that they would get no use out of?
Do you expect them to equip range mods that are useless without enhancers?
Get real!

If we want them to stop using so much Damage Mods and Shield Extenders, we are going to have to give them an alternative that is actually as useful to them as Extenders or Damage Mods. Period.

Yea lol
CalAss imitation:
"hurr durr im stupid cal assault vixiem scrumblar rifla wif tree damege mods iz too op for my op rail rifla to handle hurr durr equip precision enhooncers cuz damege mod two op hurr durr"
hahahahahah lolno, everyone wants to make their suit the best they can for best results. Unless heat buildup reducing mods get released for highs im keeping my triple damage mod viziams

I know I've said this before but...

Armor Pump
High Slot Module
Increases Armor Repair Rate by a %

The reason we whine is due to eve side damage mods are low slots.

*This is slightly off topic from your OP, which I believe should be considered*

From my perspective, the source of trouble between Armor and Shield balance is that armor is balanced around teamwork while shields are not balanced around anything. Map design has only exacerbated the issue.

When players armor tank, they have greater flexibility in battle. You can add all Armor HP modules to your low slots, and have a teammate with a repair tool to make up for your suit's weakness - low regeneration capabilities. You can fortify your position by having teammates drop triage hives at your feet. And yes, you can also use damage mods (Personally, I never use them and don't see the big reason for complaining).

When players shield tank, they suffer all of their penalties alone. There are no options for a Logi to reduce the Shield delay penalty that you incur if you stack all extenders, and there is no way for you to fortify yourself in a good position - based on your tank - if you so chose. Moreover, as has been mentioned many times before, shield regeneration lacks a damage threshold to stop the regen.

I am of the opinion that if you pit one armor tanker against one shield tanker, you would have no way of determining the victor before hand. You would have to take into account ranges, cover, etc. However, I am also of the opinion that if you put a team of pure armor tankers against a team of pure shield tankers, the armor tankers would win 8 times out of 10. That is where the imbalance lies, in my opinion

Ultimately, I think that shield tanking is balanced on a micro (1v1) level, and unbalanced on a macro (team) level.

TRegen is only good so long as a. There's a damage threshold

and b. There's nothing that can wipe out shields with one toss.

Damage .ODs in the lows with biotics/ewar in the highs means armor can have better utility, while shields can have better damage.

As it is, shields can barely fit all shield mods in the highs/lows while still having fitting/slots left for biotics or anything else. Armor need only worry about the lows for tank, and can fit whatever they want in the highs, damage mods being the most preferable option.