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Sir Snugglz
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Posted - 2014.12.23 09:21:00 -
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Background rant
Forget the stats, description, and slot layout for a minute. Put aside the nerfs and buffs that have occurred since its release. Let's look at the Assault dropship for what it is, a pilot/ 2-gunner / 2-passenger dropship with a front mounted small turret.
No amount of data collected can provide enough information on where the ADS is at in terms of role. No one can say that the ADS is or has ever performed well in its role. I believe that is because we have yet to give it a role set in stone. Everyone has spoken as to what role it should fill best, is most ideal, role it should not fill... what we "think" the ADS was designed for. If we remember, the ADS was released solely because us derpship pilots could not do anything other than get kill assists... we simply had no purpose in our vipers, myrons, and/or Eryx (and their Gal counter parts). It was simply to give us pilots something fun to do. And fun has it been.
The best way to test out what a ADS can do is to push it to it's limits... until it reaches it's fullest potential based on current game design. The ADS is one of those few things (not only) in this game that requires more than just a OP fitting and Skill Point sink... It requires a good Player. Give everyone all the skills (at level 5), isk, and modules and you will notice that even still, not everyone will be able to master the vehicle. Long ago we had a debate as to what constituted a TRUE vehicle (be it tank or derpship) Pilot from a simple blueberry. We may disagree on what a True pilot is... but we all agree that it takes one to fly a derpship or drive a tank.
Proposal
I want to set in stone what the "general" none-racial role of the ADS should be. No matter what is decided, the most important factor will be the number of turrets mounted. So I ask the devs this, care to join an ADS Pilot in a couple of matches? Let's see what lone single front mounted turret ADS can do. Get a taste of the battle while taking turns in one of the turrets on the dual mounted ADS. Or become the most fragile unstoppable force raining fire from the sky in the triple mounted ADS.
One thing you will notice is that different pilots excel in different roles when flying their ADS. Fly with me and we will hunt infantry while attacking and defending objectives throughout the map. Join Lions-Fan and you will see that no tank can hide or run from his lethal ship. Jump on with Derrith and you will see nothing but red derpships of different variants falling from the sky. Remove nametags in game and many will still be able to tell who is flying in the sky based on their flight style. There are many more pilots out their... each with their own mastered role for the ADS.
But which role was it meant to fill? I ask again, will you fly with one of us if not all?
-Pro AFKing LVL 5
-Luck is just one of my skills
-Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
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Sir Snugglz
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Posted - 2014.12.23 23:05:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:As far as i know the only Dev tweaking the numbers take ADS rides very personally, they take great offense. inb4 misquoting devs is a bannable offenseFunny going through the old ADS posts showed a lot of accusations heaped upon pilots, a lot of pilot prophecies that came true, and the ADS finally walked away from like a fart in a crowded room.
lots of interesting things there... im gonna have to read thoroughly
-Pro AFKing LVL 5
-Luck is just one of my skills
-Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
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Sir Snugglz
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Posted - 2014.12.24 02:34:00 -
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yeah... after reading that post it makes sense. The role of the ADS is to not have a role. Guess that works... oh wells. Back to League of Legends.
-Pro AFKing LVL 5
-Luck is just one of my skills
-Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
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Sir Snugglz
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Posted - 2014.12.24 20:18:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:Kallas Hallytyr wrote:
Derrith, would you say that solo ADSs are the only ones used in PC? Transport might be used a bit but I'm talking about gunning.
Yes. The simple fact of the matter is that it's simply more useful to have your gunner on the ground fighting than having him gun for you. Another main reason for this is the fact that gunners require a pilot to hover, making him easy prey to any AV on the field. Transport ADS are definitely used, but it's nothing more than "spawn here and take your guys to the city" at the start of the match.
16 man teams are too small to spare another guy to be gunner... but thats just me.
I believe a gunner can learn to shoot on the move but we never taken the time to train one.
-Pro AFKing LVL 5
-Luck is just one of my skills
-Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
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