DUST Search - [Request]How Swarms should work

Pocket Rocket Girl wrote:

Lazer Fo Cused wrote:

1. Swarms should require a laser tag i think, which means you have to keep lock on to guide the missiles instead, if laser is broken you have 5 seconds to regain lock or the missiles blow

2. SL should not be able to lock onto targets through cover or terrain

3. SL should not be able to look in a different direction and keep lock on ie you can lock on, look up and fire - It should lose lock after you look up

4. SL missiles should not be able to do a 270deg spin on the spot and instantly move again at top speed

5. SL should not be able to lock on to targets which are not inside its lock box

6. SL user should not be allowed to jump while using the weapon

7. Crash Bandicoots Wumpa launcher requires more aim than the SL currently

Its i interisting list but

1 how long would the lazer go? 400m? or the lock on range of 175? or some where in between?
2 its not that they lock on through terrian, its that the box dosent fully cover said grahpic i ahve seen may weapons shoot hills boxes, i have even seen tanks shoot through railings and swarms cant lock on through the gaps of the railing even though i can see the tank fully.
3 you loose lock after 1 second if not fired.
4 missiles do the circle of doom when a swamrer is close to a vehicle its annoying becaue at least 2 of the missiles will hit and the other 2 just explode randomly
5 i have never seen anything lock on that wasnt in a lock box that wasnt in range
6 why not? well what if tanks wernt allowed to shoot while moving? or at 1/2 armor, tanks are reduced to 1/2 base speed and injectors are off line
7 i guess but i think there crash got fined by osha or someting

There is one thing that i have noticed that no one seems to point out proto AV=/= Tank hull Proto Av = Proto turret though

comparing proto AV to a tank hull makes no sense its like saying there is no Proto AVsuit so nerf all tank turrets

its amusing how some tankers are complaining about how AV players are demanding a nerf to tanks when all ive seen are tankers sayin that AV need the nerf. NO i dont tank alot and yes i do pilot DS and ADS and when i do get shot down it because i was being a terrible pilot other than that its usualy because the myron and python cant touch anything with out loosing most of its shield but the incubus and grimeses can slam into the MCC and not loose any thing


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Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 258	Posted - 2014.12.17 17:58:00 - [1] - Quote 1. Swarms should require a laser tag i think, which means you have to keep lock on to guide the missiles instead, if laser is broken you have 5 seconds to regain lock or the missiles blow 2. SL should not be able to lock onto targets through cover or terrain 3. SL should not be able to look in a different direction and keep lock on ie you can lock on, look up and fire - It should lose lock after you look up 4. SL missiles should not be able to do a 270deg spin on the spot and instantly move again at top speed 5. SL should not be able to lock on to targets which are not inside its lock box 6. SL user should not be allowed to jump while using the weapon 7. Crash Bandicoots Wumpa launcher requires more aim than the SL currently
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 261	Posted - 2014.12.18 15:47:00 - [2] - Quote Pocket Rocket Girl wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. Swarms should require a laser tag i think, which means you have to keep lock on to guide the missiles instead, if laser is broken you have 5 seconds to regain lock or the missiles blow 2. SL should not be able to lock onto targets through cover or terrain 3. SL should not be able to look in a different direction and keep lock on ie you can lock on, look up and fire - It should lose lock after you look up 4. SL missiles should not be able to do a 270deg spin on the spot and instantly move again at top speed 5. SL should not be able to lock on to targets which are not inside its lock box 6. SL user should not be allowed to jump while using the weapon 7. Crash Bandicoots Wumpa launcher requires more aim than the SL currently Its i interisting list but 1 how long would the lazer go? 400m? or the lock on range of 175? or some where in between? 2 its not that they lock on through terrian, its that the box dosent fully cover said grahpic i ahve seen may weapons shoot hills boxes, i have even seen tanks shoot through railings and swarms cant lock on through the gaps of the railing even though i can see the tank fully. 3 you loose lock after 1 second if not fired. 4 missiles do the circle of doom when a swamrer is close to a vehicle its annoying becaue at least 2 of the missiles will hit and the other 2 just explode randomly 5 i have never seen anything lock on that wasnt in a lock box that wasnt in range 6 why not? well what if tanks wernt allowed to shoot while moving? or at 1/2 armor, tanks are reduced to 1/2 base speed and injectors are off line 7 i guess but i think there crash got fined by osha or someting There is one thing that i have noticed that no one seems to point out proto AV=/= Tank hull Proto Av = Proto turret though comparing proto AV to a tank hull makes no sense its like saying there is no Proto AVsuit so nerf all tank turrets its amusing how some tankers are complaining about how AV players are demanding a nerf to tanks when all ive seen are tankers sayin that AV need the nerf. NO i dont tank alot and yes i do pilot DS and ADS and when i do get shot down it because i was being a terrible pilot other than that its usualy because the myron and python cant touch anything with out loosing most of its shield but the incubus and grimeses can slam into the MCC and not loose any thing 1. With laser tagging it could be upto 400m but the problem is keeping the lock but with current scale of the maps 400m is in Domination is the majority of the map and same again with Skirmish 2. In my experience i can lock on aslong as the box is there to lock on to 3. Enough time to look up and fire, you should lose lock automatically if you look away from your target 4. Missiles shouldnt do that anyways 5. Its defo a bug but can be used to the SL users advantage 6. HAVs are made to fire while on the move but you dont see ISIS jump up and down when firing an RPG at something 7. I stopped after Crash 3, they actually made 6 or 7 in total 8. Its been said before - Basic hull plus PROTO modules and turrets but sometimes you cannot fit all proto on yet on the vast majority of my infantry suits i can have PROTO everything - Generally opponents will say 'Tiercide' but notice how the vast majority of infantry do not want tiercide for infantry but want it for vehicles - Either its tiercide for all or pilots get adv/proto vehicles
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 263	Posted - 2014.12.18 17:51:00 - [3] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. Swarms should require a laser tag i think, which means you have to keep lock on to guide the missiles instead, if laser is broken you have 5 seconds to regain lock or the missiles blow 2. SL should not be able to lock onto targets through cover or terrain 3. SL should not be able to look in a different direction and keep lock on ie you can lock on, look up and fire - It should lose lock after you look up 4. SL missiles should not be able to do a 270deg spin on the spot and instantly move again at top speed 5. SL should not be able to lock on to targets which are not inside its lock box 6. SL user should not be allowed to jump while using the weapon Oddly enough I agree with this post on all points. I have never fired the wumpa launcher so I cannot comment on that. This post is remarkably in line with how I have suggested that the swarm launcher operate in the past. Getting a lock through a hill is particularly stupid. May I add that swarms should actually beeline toward the target rather than match it's trajectory so that putting a wall between you and the missiles becomes valid tactic? 1. Current trajectory is follow where the target used to be when 1st locked on then join the dots which can lead around corners and cover if target moves - If swarms head straight for target then need to constantly move to adjust trajectory if target moves say to the left so they can follow the straightest path - No reason why it shouldnt work