DUST Search - Why don't you run vehicles?

Bethhy wrote:

Juno Tristan wrote:

I'm just curious for people's reasons

(and a drop ship to drop links up high doesn't count!)

Vehicles are in a confused state at the moment.

What is a tank for in DUST? What is it's purpose?

What is a Dropship for in DUST? what really is it's purpose?

What is an LAV for in DUST? What really is it's purpose?

These are general questions that need to be answered first. The concept around vehicles have always been mismatched and unfinished.

-Even if LAV turrets had an Eve like "Lock on" feature.. that would keep them pointed in the general direction of the vehicle it locked on... And then the fine aiming could be done by the player.. Ofcourse have an unlock button.

It would create a dynamic of tank vs LAV or LAV vs LAV.. etc..

-Tanks are stuck between alot of dynamics right now.. and are not cheap and durable enough to be seen consistently on the battlefield any longer. We warned them when they nerfed MLT tanks.. which was about the only thing they got right... Was some glorious tank fights in those days.

Which is what you want, Tanks and vehicles fighting it out.

-Dropships running more as troop transport.. It is the only thing that can carry full squads.. Act as mobile spawning platforms..

But right now they are glorified fighters in the air with a wet paper bag for defense.

They need to be kinda Military Helicopter(Like) that transport and drop troops off and sit and defends their squad at a height that doesn't cause damage from troops jumping out...
Gunners need to be on par for damage with Infantry.. Just bigger clips and less reloading..
And the defense abilities of dropships need to be able to take significant damage before it is forced to abandon the squad to repair.... WHich should take a while of flying.

They should get considerable war points for transporting people.. There should be built in CRU's...

Dropships are just confused..

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Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 226	Posted - 2014.12.13 05:07:00 - [1] - Quote I'm just curious for people's reasons (and a drop ship to drop links up high doesn't count!)
Commander Noctus Gallente Loyalist 175	Posted - 2014.12.13 05:09:00 - [2] - Quote Because it's far too easy to die in them. Also, they're expensive with little to no solo-running payout. Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 40	Posted - 2014.12.13 05:23:00 - [3] - Quote Using tanks is not that fun It bugs me don't move like real tanks They make the reds spawn proto sheild rail tanks that ruin the game for the infantry and are not fun to fight LAVs have there uses, most of the uses involve you losing a clone. Assault dropships are to hard to use, You cannot see what you are aming at,
Hakyou Brutor Titans of Phoenix 1827	Posted - 2014.12.13 05:30:00 - [4] - Quote Swarms. I love, with a passion, good tank vs tank fights. However, you never get those anymore, it's always just some Min Commando with prof 5 swarms that kills me in 3 hits. Knight Soiaire = my bae
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1755	Posted - 2014.12.13 05:30:00 - [5] - Quote Because as soon as you call in a vehicle 1-3 people on the other team pull out level 5 min commandos with prof 5 wiyrkomi swarms. Vehicles aren't allowed to kill infantry (because when we do we make infantry completely miserable) but we are allowed to be expensive wp pi+¦ata's / coffins Oh and vehicles are apparently only supposed to fight other vehicles, there is no other role that we serve. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14404	Posted - 2014.12.13 05:42:00 - [6] - Quote Because it's not satisfying, but I will be investing into the Limbus once that makes a return. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
brett morris518 is well hung 37	Posted - 2014.12.13 05:48:00 - [7] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Because as soon as you call in a vehicle 1-3 people on the other team pull out level 5 min commandos with prof 5 wiyrkomi swarms. Vehicles aren't allowed to kill infantry (because when we do we make infantry completely miserable) but we are allowed to be expensive wp pi+¦ata's / coffins Oh and vehicles are apparently only supposed to fight other vehicles, there is no other role that we serve. ^this... Because vehicles don't serve a purpose in this game.. They are made to fight other vehicle and be annoying.. So without vehicles, we wouldn't need more vehicles to fight the other ones.. LAVis okay I guess
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 2072	Posted - 2014.12.13 05:53:00 - [8] - Quote No Amarr vehicles ergo I don't use vehicles. When I do get my golden vehicles of laz0ry death then yes I will use vehicles Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3087	Posted - 2014.12.13 05:55:00 - [9] - Quote Either way too easy and boring, with 0 counters, or your team has no slayers and lets scrubs camp roof tops with 7 forge guns and 4 swarm launchers. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1102	Posted - 2014.12.13 06:57:00 - [10] - Quote I do run vehicles...just rarely anymore. - AV dominance: as an ADS pilot I have next to no recourse to fight back. If an AV player is hitting me I must immediately choose fight or flight, there is no fight; it's simply flee and maybe live to come back, or fight and probably die unless I kill them in the enxf two seconds while righting my ship/trying to find them/actually flying. In other words, I'm forced to run away 98% of the time someone in anything but a MLT swarm suit attacks me or I lose a ton of ISK for nothing. - Little communication: I can have a squad and that's fine and dandy, but transporting only a few people is limiting. I'd like to be able to pick up a squad at the back and deploy them forward then extract another squad under fire, but it's not really doable because the only area available for that is PC, which is a laggy pile of ***. - Map/Team size: seriously, the maps are tiny and some of the 1.9 changes made them smaller* for some godforsaken reason. We need bigger maps and teams such that vehicles make traversing the battlefield better and to give vehicles the opportunity to a actually do at they're supposed to: intercept each other. Why bother using a HAV when by the time you've started shooting that LAV/DS they've already reached their destination? Why bother asking for a pick up, waiting for the DS and then flying when you could already be 70% of the way there by the time you've jumped in the ship? Bigger maps would allow more tactical play ('fighter' Incubi downing Dropships before they cross the plains; AV blockades preventing mixed LAV/HAV groups rolling into the city) and bigger teams would allow more vehicle coordination rather than having a sizeable portion of your team sat in vehicles doing little and reducing the amount of boots on the hack point to actually fight. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.

TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1413	Posted - 2014.12.13 07:04:00 - [11] - Quote there will be a month of what infantry will call OP vehicles then they be nerfed again probably in hotfix fox AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15832	Posted - 2014.12.13 07:31:00 - [12] - Quote They're bland. Boring Unbalanced Do not function in a given role Infantry will inevitably whine so hard anything positive you have will be taken from you No Amarr HAV *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Sinboto Simmons Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 6735	Posted - 2014.12.13 08:31:00 - [13] - Quote waiting on saga 2, lav too squishy. No minmatar. Urgh just see true's post above me, need food. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 Born of the Brutor tribe
Lloyd Orfay Kinsho Swords Caldari State 278	Posted - 2014.12.13 08:48:00 - [14] - Quote There's a huge majority of players that took to defeating vehicles because it's a major WP farm. You get an excess amount of WP from killing a single vehicle, especially if it's a tanker with two turreters. Some players just like to stroke their selves at the very fact that they have acquired power over someone that the other person can't take away. That's one Vehicles, just like 4 out of 5 of the suit classes have no structured statistics/ skill bonus for any roles, possibly and most likely because the developers of DUST aimed for a sandbox FPS. Really not the best idea as it leaves only a very select few to effectively wipe out their own limitations and weaknesses, which are very needed to fight them in the first place and puts everyone else down under. The lack of structuring and other features just puts vehicles in the same bandwagon as infantry, it being a shoot here shoot there do this do that repeat of battling. Couple this with worse liabilities(The slow speed, rail turret tanks, Assaul dropships, redlining players acting as AV, turrets, heavily imbalanced AV stats, etc) That's a second reason why people don't use them. Pretty much that and possibly more. Incompetence is not being able to stop a weapon from being omni-range effective, give it proper recoil or dispersion.
Mejt0 Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap 582	Posted - 2014.12.13 10:55:00 - [15] - Quote If you fit your tank [gunlogi] with 1 extender and 2 hardeners [all complex] you can fight those AV guys and other tanks. Also missiles are great now. It is easier to kill AV guys with XT Missiles than with Ion Cannon. Generally you can drive solo in a tank and get high amount of WP + free kills without dying. You just need to drive carefully [this don't mean driving in redline] Hope echo will add old/cool veh modules. Bring back passive hardeners/overdrivers and my llav will be as fast as scout while being durable. [Remember old cal llav? 70% shield res all the time? Hope it won't happen this time] Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2529	Posted - 2014.12.13 11:01:00 - [16] - Quote because railguns still have 243 bugs that have exsisted since uprising 1.0 and have yet to be fixed includinng rendering (you cant see as far as you can shoot so AV can shoot you while yyou cant see them) blanks (you can shoot all you want but 25% of the time nothing leaves the barreel but you still get heat build up) autofire (your railgun will shoot untill it overheats without you firing the cannon yourself) bullets phase through destructable objects such as installations and enamy vehicles reload failure, the railgun will completly fail to reload at any givin time modules will go on cooldown but fail to pproduce any results innacurate heat gage... you are at 50% heat? NOPE overheat on next shot all of these issues keep getting ignored and so i cant run a railtank like i used to becuase weather i live or die just ends up a product of chance Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Alex-ZX Valor Coalition Red Whines. 87	Posted - 2014.12.13 11:42:00 - [17] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: I'm just curious for people's reasons (and a drop ship to drop links up high doesn't count!) They aren't as funny as used to be in beta, there was a bigger amount of options, also fitting them was more about something specific, now is almost the same fit to everyone Sleep in pace marauders, black ops and enforcer tanks they saw some of the most violent wars out there Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG Luis' modified VC-107 CR Alex's modified VC-107 SMG *Owner of this beasts*
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 374	Posted - 2014.12.13 13:47:00 - [18] - Quote cost is to much and i just don't think the system is worth it. Gassault Calogi - Ranked #763 on the forums `- Open Beta Vet - 32mil sp - - GFC, GJR Approved -`
cris bleu Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 20	Posted - 2014.12.13 14:29:00 - [19] - Quote Because I can't drive any of them. If you're a blue and you see me in any kind of vehicle, don't get in. It's a death sentence.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game RUST415 1712	Posted - 2014.12.13 14:30:00 - [20] - Quote they are a pain in the ass to drive without KBM and i lost my mouse so no vehicles for me. besides i'm too busy trying to win the match All Hail Legion

Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 233	Posted - 2014.12.13 15:36:00 - [21] - Quote 1. Main reason - Not worth it in SP/ISK/Role on battlefield - Everything you can in a vehicle you can do in a dropsuit for half the ISK/SP 2. Infantry cry so hard that eventually it will get nerfed because they dont like it and wont even bother to skill into its counter 3. Boring 4. Less of everything for pilots - Less hulls, less skills with useful bonuses, less turrets, less modules and no pilot suits 5. Its a painful reminder that Chrome is in the past 6. Basically what everyone else said above
Byozuma Kegawa Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 371	Posted - 2014.12.13 15:38:00 - [22] - Quote I don't run vehicles because... noone does anything fun with them anymore. Used to be you could expect to find people LAV racing over the weekend in Ambush. Now with all the vehicle caps and lack of starter LAVs there's just no fun to be had.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4774	Posted - 2014.12.13 15:39:00 - [23] - Quote Looks for the Amarr Speeder Nothing in sight! (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 701	Posted - 2014.12.13 15:43:00 - [24] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Because as soon as you call in a vehicle 1-3 people on the other team pull out level 5 min commandos with prof 5 wiyrkomi swarms. Vehicles aren't allowed to kill infantry (because when we do we make infantry completely miserable) but we are allowed to be expensive wp pi+¦ata's / coffins Oh and vehicles are apparently only supposed to fight other vehicles, there is no other role that we serve. People who claim tanks can't kill infantry don't understand how to use a blaster: Pro-tips: 1. Look through first person as this makes it easier to see where your shots will land. 2. Burst fire is key to killing infantry... longer the blaster fires the more innacurate it gets but those first few shots that hit like a truck are nearly dead on every time. As to the OP's question as to why I don't run vehicles.... I'm not skilled in them. Militia level vehicles are very easy to pop and you can't really fit a sica with a blaster very well... rail turrets are the only amazing 0 sp tanks if you fit them right but not ideal for infantry an will get it's ass handed to it when actual tankers show up. Soma's are just pinata's with all them high alpha armor based damage weapons. Only the armor LAV is really any good when it comes to armor vehicles. I do have a Viper that does okay if half the enemy team doesn't pull out swarms which they probably will.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2314	Posted - 2014.12.13 15:50:00 - [25] - Quote <--I'm another "because no Minmatar vehicles" If we had Minmatar vehicles, I'd be right there but I don't feel like spending SP on things I don't want to use. Dust514/Legion should be a(n): [_] Arcade Lobby Shooter [X] Sci-fi Military Sim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2468	Posted - 2014.12.13 15:53:00 - [26] - Quote jane stalin wrote: Using tanks is not that fun It bugs me don't move like real tanks They make the reds spawn proto sheild rail tanks that ruin the game for the infantry and are not fun to fight LAVs have there uses, most of the uses involve you losing a clone. Assault dropships are to hard to use, You cannot see what you are aming at, Rails don't ruin the game for infantry, unless you have really good aim with them. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2468	Posted - 2014.12.13 15:55:00 - [27] - Quote Atiim wrote: Because it's not satisfying, but I will be investing into the Limbus once that makes a return. Hakyou Brutor wrote: Min Commando with prof 5 swarms. This on the other hand, is very satisfying. :3 Of course it's satisfying to you, because it's easy mode. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 618	Posted - 2014.12.13 16:18:00 - [28] - Quote I usually only call a tank if some punk is trying to ruin my infantry combat game by farming all my militia-fit blueberries... and they outrun my Minmando 5 Swarms. I'll hunt/snipe enemy vehicles and then recall. Advanced missiles with an advanced damage amplifier will usually wreck an infantry farming blaster Madrugar. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2468	Posted - 2014.12.13 16:38:00 - [29] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Either way too easy and boring, with 0 counters, or your team has no slayers and lets scrubs camp roof tops with 7 forge guns and 4 swarm launchers. Also, no minmitar tanks If there was a speedy, super damaging tank that could circle around other tanks super fast and pound auto cannon rounds into them with 2x damage mods active and shred them, it would be glorious, and I would become a tanker. So you think it's going to be easy? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2472	Posted - 2014.12.13 17:58:00 - [30] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: waiting on saga 2, lav too squishy. No minmatar. Urgh just see true's post above me, need food. We already have the Saga II. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2472	Posted - 2014.12.13 18:00:00 - [31] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: If you fit your tank [gunlogi] with 1 extender and 2 hardeners [all complex] you can fight those AV guys and other tanks. Also missiles are great now. It is easier to kill AV guys with XT Missiles than with Ion Cannon. Generally you can drive solo in a tank and get high amount of WP + free kills without dying. You just need to drive carefully [this doesn't mean driving in redline] Hope echo will add old/cool veh modules. Bring back passive hardeners/overdrivers and my llav will be as fast as scout while being durable. [Remember old cal llav? 70% shield res all the time? Hope it won't happen this time] Dunno what you're talking about with the extender and 2 hardeners, an ADV missile turret took all that down with both hardeners going to about 800 shield or so, no damage mod active. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2472	Posted - 2014.12.13 18:03:00 - [32] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: they are a pain in the ass to drive without KBM and i lost my mouse so no vehicles for me. besides i'm too busy trying to win the match You never tanked anyway. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3891	Posted - 2014.12.13 18:14:00 - [33] - Quote I'd assume it's cuz of ISK payouts, why run something 200-700k when no matter how good you do your pay out won't be over 300k. You get av camping on rooftops so they can cover most the map. I could understand why vehicle users don't run vehicles often. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2472	Posted - 2014.12.13 18:47:00 - [34] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: I'd assume it's cuz of ISK payouts, why run something 200-700k when no matter how good you do your pay out won't be over 300k. You get av camping on rooftops so they can cover most the map. I could understand why vehicle users don't run vehicles often. Because vehicles and should be balanced for FW and PC, not pubs. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1370	Posted - 2014.12.13 18:53:00 - [35] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: because railguns still have 243 bugs that have exsisted since uprising 1.0 and have yet to be fixed includinng rendering (you cant see as far as you can shoot so AV can shoot you while yyou cant see them) blanks (you can shoot all you want but 25% of the time nothing leaves the barreel but you still get heat build up) autofire (your railgun will shoot untill it overheats without you firing the cannon yourself) bullets phase through destructable objects such as installations and enamy vehicles reload failure, the railgun will completly fail to reload at any givin time modules will go on cooldown but fail to pproduce any results innacurate heat gage... you are at 50% heat? NOPE overheat on next shot all of these issues keep getting ignored and so i cant run a railtank like i used to becuase weather i live or die just ends up a product of chance Ironic word choice at the end. Because, that's why.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2617	Posted - 2014.12.13 19:42:00 - [36] - Quote Too much risk, too little reward.
Sev Alcatraz 704	Posted - 2014.12.13 19:44:00 - [37] - Quote because my incredibly expensive tank can be dispatched by a BPO jeep and 2 guys 1 in a free suit and the other in a logi suit to sit in the red line so the REs dont disappear Disgruntled vet
brett morris518 is well hung 41	Posted - 2014.12.13 19:49:00 - [38] - Quote Sev Alcatraz wrote: because my incredibly expensive tank can be dispatched by a BPO jeep and 2 guys 1 in a free suit and the other in a logi suit to sit in the red line so the REs dont disappear 2 guys?! Noobs.. Bpo LAV+crap ton of links+apex logi=op free tank killer
Robocop Junior research lab 934	Posted - 2014.12.13 19:55:00 - [39] - Quote How much fun could a dumb dumb sum if a dumb dumb bum could run, in a moving ton with a giant gun, all day under the sun? If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2654	Posted - 2014.12.13 19:57:00 - [40] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: I'm just curious for people's reasons (and a drop ship to drop links up high doesn't count!) Vehicles are in a confused state at the moment. What is a tank for in DUST? What is it's purpose? What is a Dropship for in DUST? what really is it's purpose? What is an LAV for in DUST? What really is it's purpose? These are general questions that need to be answered first. The concept around vehicles have always been mismatched and unfinished. -Even if LAV turrets had an Eve like "Lock on" feature.. that would keep them pointed in the general direction of the vehicle it locked on... And then the fine aiming could be done by the player.. Ofcourse have an unlock button. It would create a dynamic of tank vs LAV or LAV vs LAV.. etc.. -Tanks are stuck between alot of dynamics right now.. and are not cheap and durable enough to be seen consistently on the battlefield any longer. We warned them when they nerfed MLT tanks.. which was about the only thing they got right... Was some glorious tank fights in those days. Which is what you want, Tanks and vehicles fighting it out. -Dropships running more as troop transport.. It is the only thing that can carry full squads.. Act as mobile spawning platforms.. But right now they are glorified fighters in the air with a wet paper bag for defense. They need to be kinda Military Helicopter(Like) that transport and drop troops off and sit and defends their squad at a height that doesn't cause damage from troops jumping out... Gunners need to be on par for damage with Infantry.. Just bigger clips and less reloading.. And the defense abilities of dropships need to be able to take significant damage before it is forced to abandon the squad to repair.... WHich should take a while of flying. They should get considerable war points for transporting people.. There should be built in CRU's... Dropships are just confused..

Robocop Junior research lab 934	Posted - 2014.12.13 20:05:00 - [41] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: How much fun could a dumb dumb sum if a dumb dumb bum could run, in a moving ton with a giant gun, all day under the sun? Goin by these responses the answer of course is NONE! If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 2320	Posted - 2014.12.13 20:09:00 - [42] - Quote My legs work just fine. PSN Sil4ntChaozz I am the NINJA no one sees and if seen killed with ease If HP were all, heavy would not fear scout.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 706	Posted - 2014.12.13 20:11:00 - [43] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: I'm just curious for people's reasons (and a drop ship to drop links up high doesn't count!) Vehicles are in a confused state at the moment. What is a tank for in DUST? What is it's purpose? What is a Dropship for in DUST? what really is it's purpose? What is an LAV for in DUST? What really is it's purpose? These are general questions that need to be answered first. The concept around vehicles have always been mismatched and unfinished. -Even if LAV turrets had an Eve like "Lock on" feature.. that would keep them pointed in the general direction of the vehicle it locked on... And then the fine aiming could be done by the player.. Ofcourse have an unlock button. It would create a dynamic of tank vs LAV or LAV vs LAV.. etc.. -Tanks are stuck between alot of dynamics right now.. and are not cheap and durable enough to be seen consistently on the battlefield any longer. We warned them when they nerfed MLT tanks.. which was about the only thing they got right... Was some glorious tank fights in those days. Which is what you want, Tanks and vehicles fighting it out. -Dropships running more as troop transport.. It is the only thing that can carry full squads.. Act as mobile spawning platforms.. But right now they are glorified fighters in the air with a wet paper bag for defense. They need to be kinda Military Helicopter(Like) that transport and drop troops off and sit and defends their squad at a height that doesn't cause damage from troops jumping out... Gunners need to be on par for damage with Infantry.. Just bigger clips and less reloading.. And the defense abilities of dropships need to be able to take significant damage before it is forced to abandon the squad to repair.... WHich should take a while of flying. They should get considerable war points for transporting people.. There should be built in CRU's... Dropships are just confused.. Half of that is subjective (IE. dropships/tanks aren't durable enough) and much of the rest is actually true right now... I mean you get double the warpoints for MCRU spawns now then uplinks (50)... and gunners that aren't ** can easily kill several infantry in a single clip.... Not sure what you are fishing for . Everything you described can happen, it's hilarious when you have a methana rail speeding around a blaster maddie wrecking its ** but that requires a good driver and gunner. It sounds like you just want vehicles to be easy mode. Which last time they were easy mode the game was Tanks514. LAVs can also act as good AV support again if the driver and gunner are good. They won't stand toe to toe with tanks but a preoccupied tank can get wrecked. LAVs are light attack vehicles... they are supposed to zip around supporting infantry and vehicles alike and they can whether blueberries will do this or not. I've seen a lot of garbage DS pilots and a lot of DS pilots you just can't kill unless everyone goes AV... Tanks likewise...
Sinboto Simmons Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 6740	Posted - 2014.12.13 21:12:00 - [44] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: waiting on saga 2, lav too squishy. No minmatar. Urgh just see true's post above me, need food. We already have the Saga II. perhaps you do but I've not. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 Born of the Brutor tribe
Llast 326 An Arkhos 5738	Posted - 2014.12.13 21:25:00 - [45] - Quote drive by Knifings are not really my thing MOAR Ladders
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5465	Posted - 2014.12.13 21:34:00 - [46] - Quote I just started. I derp around in tanks and ADS from time to time. Only4-5KDRpubbiesCanRunADV24/7\|PCplyrsRunPRO&smashSTD/MLTplyrs24/7. ThisIsHowIt'sAlwaysBeen,ThereforeMustStayThisWay.
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 15509	Posted - 2014.12.13 21:35:00 - [47] - Quote I ran out of ISK. You can solo as infantry and make money, not so much as a pilot :/ Flight Academy coming soon(tm) to my YouTube WoD 514
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 75	Posted - 2014.12.13 22:11:00 - [48] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Swarms. I love, with a passion, good tank vs tank fights. However, you never get those anymore, it's always just some Min Commando with prof 5 swarms that kills me in 3 hits. I love tankjs but I thought tank battles were more fun pre 1.7
Union118 Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 33	Posted - 2014.12.13 22:15:00 - [49] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: I'm just curious for people's reasons (and a drop ship to drop links up high doesn't count!) Turning speed for tanks suck n can get you killed often. Cars dont drive properly on terrain n the sensitivity for turning is way to strong. Dropship I only use them to get to sniper spots. Most the time ADS is unfair of an advantage if your good at flying. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 406	Posted - 2014.12.13 22:47:00 - [50] - Quote I wasn't using tanks in quite a while, but then something made me spawn my missile Sica tank, the enemy was spamming mlt tanks, and I was killing absolutely everything... 420k ISK, 11k SP, one of the best payouts I ever made in this game with a tank fit that costs just 110k ISK lmao. My Paladin will hurt you. Very badly.

H0riz0n Unlimit Dead Man's Game 232	Posted - 2014.12.13 23:15:00 - [51] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: I'm just curious for people's reasons (and a drop ship to drop links up high doesn't count!) Because is usefull a full militia gear than a tank The KTM DuKe lives here, send a message after the "beep". TheD1ck is on the table fan club. MPRQ-MakingPeopleRageQuit


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