DUST Search - Why don't you run vehicles?

Bethhy wrote:

Juno Tristan wrote:

I'm just curious for people's reasons

(and a drop ship to drop links up high doesn't count!)

Vehicles are in a confused state at the moment.

What is a tank for in DUST? What is it's purpose?

What is a Dropship for in DUST? what really is it's purpose?

What is an LAV for in DUST? What really is it's purpose?

These are general questions that need to be answered first. The concept around vehicles have always been mismatched and unfinished.

-Even if LAV turrets had an Eve like "Lock on" feature.. that would keep them pointed in the general direction of the vehicle it locked on... And then the fine aiming could be done by the player.. Ofcourse have an unlock button.

It would create a dynamic of tank vs LAV or LAV vs LAV.. etc..

-Tanks are stuck between alot of dynamics right now.. and are not cheap and durable enough to be seen consistently on the battlefield any longer. We warned them when they nerfed MLT tanks.. which was about the only thing they got right... Was some glorious tank fights in those days.

Which is what you want, Tanks and vehicles fighting it out.

-Dropships running more as troop transport.. It is the only thing that can carry full squads.. Act as mobile spawning platforms..

But right now they are glorified fighters in the air with a wet paper bag for defense.

They need to be kinda Military Helicopter(Like) that transport and drop troops off and sit and defends their squad at a height that doesn't cause damage from troops jumping out...
Gunners need to be on par for damage with Infantry.. Just bigger clips and less reloading..
And the defense abilities of dropships need to be able to take significant damage before it is forced to abandon the squad to repair.... WHich should take a while of flying.

They should get considerable war points for transporting people.. There should be built in CRU's...

Dropships are just confused..

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Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2472	Posted - 2014.12.13 18:00:00 - [31] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: If you fit your tank [gunlogi] with 1 extender and 2 hardeners [all complex] you can fight those AV guys and other tanks. Also missiles are great now. It is easier to kill AV guys with XT Missiles than with Ion Cannon. Generally you can drive solo in a tank and get high amount of WP + free kills without dying. You just need to drive carefully [this doesn't mean driving in redline] Hope echo will add old/cool veh modules. Bring back passive hardeners/overdrivers and my llav will be as fast as scout while being durable. [Remember old cal llav? 70% shield res all the time? Hope it won't happen this time] Dunno what you're talking about with the extender and 2 hardeners, an ADV missile turret took all that down with both hardeners going to about 800 shield or so, no damage mod active. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2472	Posted - 2014.12.13 18:03:00 - [32] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: they are a pain in the ass to drive without KBM and i lost my mouse so no vehicles for me. besides i'm too busy trying to win the match You never tanked anyway. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3891	Posted - 2014.12.13 18:14:00 - [33] - Quote I'd assume it's cuz of ISK payouts, why run something 200-700k when no matter how good you do your pay out won't be over 300k. You get av camping on rooftops so they can cover most the map. I could understand why vehicle users don't run vehicles often. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2472	Posted - 2014.12.13 18:47:00 - [34] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: I'd assume it's cuz of ISK payouts, why run something 200-700k when no matter how good you do your pay out won't be over 300k. You get av camping on rooftops so they can cover most the map. I could understand why vehicle users don't run vehicles often. Because vehicles and should be balanced for FW and PC, not pubs. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1370	Posted - 2014.12.13 18:53:00 - [35] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: because railguns still have 243 bugs that have exsisted since uprising 1.0 and have yet to be fixed includinng rendering (you cant see as far as you can shoot so AV can shoot you while yyou cant see them) blanks (you can shoot all you want but 25% of the time nothing leaves the barreel but you still get heat build up) autofire (your railgun will shoot untill it overheats without you firing the cannon yourself) bullets phase through destructable objects such as installations and enamy vehicles reload failure, the railgun will completly fail to reload at any givin time modules will go on cooldown but fail to pproduce any results innacurate heat gage... you are at 50% heat? NOPE overheat on next shot all of these issues keep getting ignored and so i cant run a railtank like i used to becuase weather i live or die just ends up a product of chance Ironic word choice at the end. Because, that's why.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2617	Posted - 2014.12.13 19:42:00 - [36] - Quote Too much risk, too little reward.
Sev Alcatraz 704	Posted - 2014.12.13 19:44:00 - [37] - Quote because my incredibly expensive tank can be dispatched by a BPO jeep and 2 guys 1 in a free suit and the other in a logi suit to sit in the red line so the REs dont disappear Disgruntled vet
brett morris518 is well hung 41	Posted - 2014.12.13 19:49:00 - [38] - Quote Sev Alcatraz wrote: because my incredibly expensive tank can be dispatched by a BPO jeep and 2 guys 1 in a free suit and the other in a logi suit to sit in the red line so the REs dont disappear 2 guys?! Noobs.. Bpo LAV+crap ton of links+apex logi=op free tank killer
Robocop Junior research lab 934	Posted - 2014.12.13 19:55:00 - [39] - Quote How much fun could a dumb dumb sum if a dumb dumb bum could run, in a moving ton with a giant gun, all day under the sun? If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. 2654	Posted - 2014.12.13 19:57:00 - [40] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: I'm just curious for people's reasons (and a drop ship to drop links up high doesn't count!) Vehicles are in a confused state at the moment. What is a tank for in DUST? What is it's purpose? What is a Dropship for in DUST? what really is it's purpose? What is an LAV for in DUST? What really is it's purpose? These are general questions that need to be answered first. The concept around vehicles have always been mismatched and unfinished. -Even if LAV turrets had an Eve like "Lock on" feature.. that would keep them pointed in the general direction of the vehicle it locked on... And then the fine aiming could be done by the player.. Ofcourse have an unlock button. It would create a dynamic of tank vs LAV or LAV vs LAV.. etc.. -Tanks are stuck between alot of dynamics right now.. and are not cheap and durable enough to be seen consistently on the battlefield any longer. We warned them when they nerfed MLT tanks.. which was about the only thing they got right... Was some glorious tank fights in those days. Which is what you want, Tanks and vehicles fighting it out. -Dropships running more as troop transport.. It is the only thing that can carry full squads.. Act as mobile spawning platforms.. But right now they are glorified fighters in the air with a wet paper bag for defense. They need to be kinda Military Helicopter(Like) that transport and drop troops off and sit and defends their squad at a height that doesn't cause damage from troops jumping out... Gunners need to be on par for damage with Infantry.. Just bigger clips and less reloading.. And the defense abilities of dropships need to be able to take significant damage before it is forced to abandon the squad to repair.... WHich should take a while of flying. They should get considerable war points for transporting people.. There should be built in CRU's... Dropships are just confused..

Robocop Junior research lab 934	Posted - 2014.12.13 20:05:00 - [41] - Quote Robocop Junior wrote: How much fun could a dumb dumb sum if a dumb dumb bum could run, in a moving ton with a giant gun, all day under the sun? Goin by these responses the answer of course is NONE! If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 2320	Posted - 2014.12.13 20:09:00 - [42] - Quote My legs work just fine. PSN Sil4ntChaozz I am the NINJA no one sees and if seen killed with ease If HP were all, heavy would not fear scout.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 706	Posted - 2014.12.13 20:11:00 - [43] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: I'm just curious for people's reasons (and a drop ship to drop links up high doesn't count!) Vehicles are in a confused state at the moment. What is a tank for in DUST? What is it's purpose? What is a Dropship for in DUST? what really is it's purpose? What is an LAV for in DUST? What really is it's purpose? These are general questions that need to be answered first. The concept around vehicles have always been mismatched and unfinished. -Even if LAV turrets had an Eve like "Lock on" feature.. that would keep them pointed in the general direction of the vehicle it locked on... And then the fine aiming could be done by the player.. Ofcourse have an unlock button. It would create a dynamic of tank vs LAV or LAV vs LAV.. etc.. -Tanks are stuck between alot of dynamics right now.. and are not cheap and durable enough to be seen consistently on the battlefield any longer. We warned them when they nerfed MLT tanks.. which was about the only thing they got right... Was some glorious tank fights in those days. Which is what you want, Tanks and vehicles fighting it out. -Dropships running more as troop transport.. It is the only thing that can carry full squads.. Act as mobile spawning platforms.. But right now they are glorified fighters in the air with a wet paper bag for defense. They need to be kinda Military Helicopter(Like) that transport and drop troops off and sit and defends their squad at a height that doesn't cause damage from troops jumping out... Gunners need to be on par for damage with Infantry.. Just bigger clips and less reloading.. And the defense abilities of dropships need to be able to take significant damage before it is forced to abandon the squad to repair.... WHich should take a while of flying. They should get considerable war points for transporting people.. There should be built in CRU's... Dropships are just confused.. Half of that is subjective (IE. dropships/tanks aren't durable enough) and much of the rest is actually true right now... I mean you get double the warpoints for MCRU spawns now then uplinks (50)... and gunners that aren't ** can easily kill several infantry in a single clip.... Not sure what you are fishing for . Everything you described can happen, it's hilarious when you have a methana rail speeding around a blaster maddie wrecking its ** but that requires a good driver and gunner. It sounds like you just want vehicles to be easy mode. Which last time they were easy mode the game was Tanks514. LAVs can also act as good AV support again if the driver and gunner are good. They won't stand toe to toe with tanks but a preoccupied tank can get wrecked. LAVs are light attack vehicles... they are supposed to zip around supporting infantry and vehicles alike and they can whether blueberries will do this or not. I've seen a lot of garbage DS pilots and a lot of DS pilots you just can't kill unless everyone goes AV... Tanks likewise...
Sinboto Simmons Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 6740	Posted - 2014.12.13 21:12:00 - [44] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: waiting on saga 2, lav too squishy. No minmatar. Urgh just see true's post above me, need food. We already have the Saga II. perhaps you do but I've not. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 Born of the Brutor tribe
Llast 326 An Arkhos 5738	Posted - 2014.12.13 21:25:00 - [45] - Quote drive by Knifings are not really my thing MOAR Ladders
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5465	Posted - 2014.12.13 21:34:00 - [46] - Quote I just started. I derp around in tanks and ADS from time to time. Only4-5KDRpubbiesCanRunADV24/7\|PCplyrsRunPRO&smashSTD/MLTplyrs24/7. ThisIsHowIt'sAlwaysBeen,ThereforeMustStayThisWay.
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 15509	Posted - 2014.12.13 21:35:00 - [47] - Quote I ran out of ISK. You can solo as infantry and make money, not so much as a pilot :/ Flight Academy coming soon(tm) to my YouTube WoD 514
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 75	Posted - 2014.12.13 22:11:00 - [48] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Swarms. I love, with a passion, good tank vs tank fights. However, you never get those anymore, it's always just some Min Commando with prof 5 swarms that kills me in 3 hits. I love tankjs but I thought tank battles were more fun pre 1.7
Union118 Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 33	Posted - 2014.12.13 22:15:00 - [49] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: I'm just curious for people's reasons (and a drop ship to drop links up high doesn't count!) Turning speed for tanks suck n can get you killed often. Cars dont drive properly on terrain n the sensitivity for turning is way to strong. Dropship I only use them to get to sniper spots. Most the time ADS is unfair of an advantage if your good at flying. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 406	Posted - 2014.12.13 22:47:00 - [50] - Quote I wasn't using tanks in quite a while, but then something made me spawn my missile Sica tank, the enemy was spamming mlt tanks, and I was killing absolutely everything... 420k ISK, 11k SP, one of the best payouts I ever made in this game with a tank fit that costs just 110k ISK lmao. My Paladin will hurt you. Very badly.

H0riz0n Unlimit Dead Man's Game 232	Posted - 2014.12.13 23:15:00 - [51] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: I'm just curious for people's reasons (and a drop ship to drop links up high doesn't count!) Because is usefull a full militia gear than a tank The KTM DuKe lives here, send a message after the "beep". TheD1ck is on the table fan club. MPRQ-MakingPeopleRageQuit


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