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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
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Posted - 2014.12.13 05:07:00 -
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I'm just curious for people's reasons
(and a drop ship to drop links up high doesn't count!) |
Commander Noctus
Gallente Loyalist
175
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Posted - 2014.12.13 05:09:00 -
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Because it's far too easy to die in them. Also, they're expensive with little to no solo-running payout.
Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.
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jane stalin
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2014.12.13 05:23:00 -
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Using tanks is not that fun
It bugs me don't move like real tanks
They make the reds spawn proto sheild rail tanks that ruin the game for the infantry and are not fun to fight
LAVs have there uses, most of the uses involve you losing a clone.
Assault dropships are to hard to use, You cannot see what you are aming at, |
Hakyou Brutor
Titans of Phoenix
1827
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Posted - 2014.12.13 05:30:00 -
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Swarms.
I love, with a passion, good tank vs tank fights. However, you never get those anymore, it's always just some Min Commando with prof 5 swarms that kills me in 3 hits.
Knight Soiaire = my bae
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1755
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Posted - 2014.12.13 05:30:00 -
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Because as soon as you call in a vehicle 1-3 people on the other team pull out level 5 min commandos with prof 5 wiyrkomi swarms.
Vehicles aren't allowed to kill infantry (because when we do we make infantry completely miserable) but we are allowed to be expensive wp pi+¦ata's / coffins
Oh and vehicles are apparently *only* supposed to fight other vehicles, there is no other role that we serve.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
14404
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Posted - 2014.12.13 05:42:00 -
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Because it's not satisfying, but I will be investing into the Limbus once that makes a return.
The 1st Matari Commando
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brett morris518
is well hung
37
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Posted - 2014.12.13 05:48:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Because as soon as you call in a vehicle 1-3 people on the other team pull out level 5 min commandos with prof 5 wiyrkomi swarms.
Vehicles aren't allowed to kill infantry (because when we do we make infantry completely miserable) but we are allowed to be expensive wp pi+¦ata's / coffins
Oh and vehicles are apparently *only* supposed to fight other vehicles, there is no other role that we serve.
^this... Because vehicles don't serve a purpose in this game.. They are made to fight other vehicle and be annoying.. So without vehicles, we wouldn't need more vehicles to fight the other ones.. LAVis okay I guess |
Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
2072
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Posted - 2014.12.13 05:53:00 -
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No Amarr vehicles ergo I don't use vehicles. When I do get my golden vehicles of laz0ry death then yes I will use vehicles
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3087
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Posted - 2014.12.13 05:55:00 -
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Either way too easy and boring, with 0 counters, or your team has no slayers and lets scrubs camp roof tops with 7 forge guns and 4 swarm launchers.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
1102
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Posted - 2014.12.13 06:57:00 -
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I do run vehicles...just rarely anymore.
- AV dominance: as an ADS pilot I have next to no recourse to fight back. If an AV player is hitting me I must immediately choose fight or flight, there is no fight; it's simply flee and maybe live to come back, or fight and probably die unless I kill them in the enxf two seconds while righting my ship/trying to find them/actually flying. In other words, I'm forced to run away 98% of the time someone in anything but a MLT swarm suit attacks me or I lose a ton of ISK for nothing.
- Little communication: I can have a squad and that's fine and dandy, but transporting only a few people is limiting. I'd like to be able to pick up a squad at the back and deploy them forward then extract another squad under fire, but it's not really doable because the only area available for that is PC, which is a laggy pile of ****.
- Map/Team size: seriously, the maps are tiny and some of the 1.9 changes made them smaller for some godforsaken reason. We need bigger maps and teams such that vehicles make traversing the battlefield better and to give vehicles the opportunity to a actually do at they're supposed to: intercept each other. Why bother using a HAV when by the time you've started shooting that LAV/DS they've already reached their destination? Why bother asking for a pick up, waiting for the DS and then flying when you could already be 70% of the way there by the time you've jumped in the ship? Bigger maps would allow more tactical play ('fighter' Incubi downing Dropships before they cross the plains; AV blockades preventing mixed LAV/HAV groups rolling into the city) and bigger teams would allow more vehicle coordination rather than having a sizeable portion of your team sat in vehicles doing little and reducing the amount of boots on the hack point to actually fight.
Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1413
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Posted - 2014.12.13 07:04:00 -
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there will be a month of what infantry will call OP vehicles then they be nerfed again probably in hotfix fox
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15832
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Posted - 2014.12.13 07:31:00 -
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They're bland.
Boring
Unbalanced
Do not function in a given role
Infantry will inevitably whine so hard anything positive you have will be taken from you
No Amarr HAV
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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Sinboto Simmons
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
6735
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Posted - 2014.12.13 08:31:00 -
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waiting on saga 2, lav too squishy.
No minmatar.
Urgh just see true's post above me, need food.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1
Born of the Brutor tribe
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Lloyd Orfay
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
278
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Posted - 2014.12.13 08:48:00 -
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There's a huge majority of players that took to defeating vehicles because it's a major WP farm. You get an excess amount of WP from killing a single vehicle, especially if it's a tanker with two turreters. Some players just like to stroke their selves at the very fact that they have acquired power over someone that the other person can't take away.
That's one
Vehicles, just like 4 out of 5 of the suit classes have no structured statistics/ skill bonus for any roles, possibly and most likely because the developers of DUST aimed for a sandbox FPS. Really not the best idea as it leaves only a very select few to effectively wipe out their own limitations and weaknesses, which are very needed to fight them in the first place and puts everyone else down under. The lack of structuring and other features just puts vehicles in the same bandwagon as infantry, it being a shoot here shoot there do this do that repeat of battling. Couple this with worse liabilities(The slow speed, rail turret tanks, Assaul dropships, redlining players acting as AV, turrets, heavily imbalanced AV stats, etc)
That's a second reason why people don't use them.
Pretty much that and possibly more.
Incompetence is not being able to stop a weapon from being omni-range effective, give it proper recoil or dispersion.
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Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
582
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Posted - 2014.12.13 10:55:00 -
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If you fit your tank [gunlogi] with 1 extender and 2 hardeners [all complex] you can fight those AV guys and other tanks.
Also missiles are great now.
It is easier to kill AV guys with XT Missiles than with Ion Cannon.
Generally you can drive solo in a tank and get high amount of WP + free kills without dying.
You just need to drive carefully [this don't mean driving in redline]
Hope echo will add old/cool veh modules.
Bring back passive hardeners/overdrivers and my llav will be as fast as scout while being durable.
[Remember old cal llav? 70% shield res all the time? Hope it won't happen this time]
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2529
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Posted - 2014.12.13 11:01:00 -
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because railguns still have 243 bugs that have exsisted since uprising 1.0 and have yet to be fixed includinng
rendering (you cant see as far as you can shoot so AV can shoot you while yyou cant see them)
blanks (you can shoot all you want but 25% of the time nothing leaves the barreel but you still get heat build up)
autofire (your railgun will shoot untill it overheats without you firing the cannon yourself)
bullets phase through destructable objects such as installations and enamy vehicles
reload failure, the railgun will completly fail to reload at any givin time
modules will go on cooldown but fail to pproduce any results
innacurate heat gage... you are at 50% heat? NOPE overheat on next shot
all of these issues keep getting ignored and so i cant run a railtank like i used to becuase weather i live or die just ends up a product of chance
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition
Red Whines.
87
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Posted - 2014.12.13 11:42:00 -
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Juno Tristan wrote:I'm just curious for people's reasons
(and a drop ship to drop links up high doesn't count!)
They aren't as funny as used to be in beta, there was a bigger amount of options, also fitting them was more about something specific, now is almost the same fit to everyone
Sleep in pace marauders, black ops and enforcer tanks  they saw some of the most violent wars out there
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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PLAYSTTION
GamersForChrist
374
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Posted - 2014.12.13 13:47:00 -
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cost is to much and i just don't think the system is worth it.
Gassault Calogi - Ranked #763 on the forums
- Open Beta Vet - 32mil sp -
- GFC, GJR Approved -
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cris bleu
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
20
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:29:00 -
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Because I can't drive any of them. If you're a blue and you see me in any kind of vehicle, don't get in. It's a death sentence. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1712
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Posted - 2014.12.13 14:30:00 -
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they are a pain in the ass to drive without KBM and i lost my mouse so no vehicles for me. besides i'm too busy trying to win the match
All Hail Legion
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Lazer Fo Cused
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
233
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Posted - 2014.12.13 15:36:00 -
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1. Main reason - Not worth it in SP/ISK/Role on battlefield - Everything you can in a vehicle you can do in a dropsuit for half the ISK/SP
2. Infantry cry so hard that eventually it will get nerfed because they dont like it and wont even bother to skill into its counter
3. Boring
4. Less of everything for pilots - Less hulls, less skills with useful bonuses, less turrets, less modules and no pilot suits
5. Its a painful reminder that Chrome is in the past
6. Basically what everyone else said above |
Byozuma Kegawa
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
371
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Posted - 2014.12.13 15:38:00 -
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I don't run vehicles because... noone does anything fun with them anymore. Used to be you could expect to find people LAV racing over the weekend in Ambush. Now with all the vehicle caps and lack of starter LAVs there's just no fun to be had. |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2014.12.13 15:39:00 -
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*Looks for the Amarr Speeder* Nothing in sight!
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
701
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Posted - 2014.12.13 15:43:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Because as soon as you call in a vehicle 1-3 people on the other team pull out level 5 min commandos with prof 5 wiyrkomi swarms.
Vehicles aren't allowed to kill infantry (because when we do we make infantry completely miserable) but we are allowed to be expensive wp pi+¦ata's / coffins
Oh and vehicles are apparently *only* supposed to fight other vehicles, there is no other role that we serve.
People who claim tanks can't kill infantry don't understand how to use a blaster:
Pro-tips:
1. Look through first person as this makes it easier to see where your shots will land.
2. Burst fire is key to killing infantry... longer the blaster fires the more innacurate it gets but those first few shots that hit like a truck are nearly dead on every time.
As to the OP's question as to why I don't run vehicles.... I'm not skilled in them. Militia level vehicles are very easy to pop and you can't really fit a sica with a blaster very well... rail turrets are the only amazing 0 sp tanks if you fit them right but not ideal for infantry an will get it's ass handed to it when actual tankers show up. Soma's are just pinata's with all them high alpha armor based damage weapons. Only the armor LAV is really any good when it comes to armor vehicles.
I do have a Viper that does okay if half the enemy team doesn't pull out swarms which they probably will. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2314
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Posted - 2014.12.13 15:50:00 -
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<--I'm another "because no Minmatar vehicles"
If we had Minmatar vehicles, I'd be right there but I don't feel like spending SP on things I don't want to use.
Dust514/Legion should be a(n):
[_] Arcade Lobby Shooter
[X] Sci-fi Military Sim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2468
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Posted - 2014.12.13 15:53:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:Using tanks is not that fun
It bugs me don't move like real tanks
They make the reds spawn proto sheild rail tanks that ruin the game for the infantry and are not fun to fight
LAVs have there uses, most of the uses involve you losing a clone.
Assault dropships are to hard to use, You cannot see what you are aming at,
Rails don't ruin the game for infantry, unless you have really good aim with them.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2468
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Posted - 2014.12.13 15:55:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Because it's not satisfying, but I will be investing into the Limbus once that makes a return. Hakyou Brutor wrote:
Min Commando with prof 5 swarms.
This on the other hand, is very satisfying. :3
Of course it's satisfying to you, because it's easy mode.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
618
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Posted - 2014.12.13 16:18:00 -
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I usually only call a tank if some punk is trying to ruin my infantry combat game by farming all my militia-fit blueberries... and they outrun my Minmando 5 Swarms. I'll hunt/snipe enemy vehicles and then recall.
Advanced missiles with an advanced damage amplifier will usually wreck an infantry farming blaster Madrugar.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2468
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Posted - 2014.12.13 16:38:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Either way too easy and boring, with 0 counters, or your team has no slayers and lets scrubs camp roof tops with 7 forge guns and 4 swarm launchers. Also, no minmitar tanks  If there was a speedy, super damaging tank that could circle around other tanks super fast and pound auto cannon rounds into them with 2x damage mods active and shred them, it would be glorious, and I would become a tanker.
So you think it's going to be easy?
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
2472
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Posted - 2014.12.13 17:58:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:waiting on saga 2, lav too squishy.
No minmatar.
Urgh just see true's post above me, need food.
We already have the Saga II.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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