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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.11 21:53:00 -
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Every pub match I have played now I was on the side with little to no uplinks and none of them in decent locations to be able to fight. Normally I would drop uplinks to help keep my team in the fight but as soon as I do I am told what I am allowed to run without putting us right back in a position of being screwed. |
deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.11 21:58:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Normally I would drop uplinks to help keep my team in the fight but as soon as I do I am told what I am allowed to run without putting us right back in a position of being screwed. Who is telling you what you have to run and why aren't you telling them to go **** themselves?
I suppose that would be Scotty. I am either told I can not drop uplinks and must continue to spawn in ****** locations and watch my team get slaughtered as they trickle in from far out or I must drop my links and resign to hiding in the corner while the team uses my links to (hopefully) mount a slightly better push than before. It is honestly pretty depressing knowing I can no longer attempt to support the crap blues Scotty gives me.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.11 22:09:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:deezy dabest wrote:I suppose that would be Scotty. I am either told I can not drop uplinks and must continue to spawn in ****** locations and watch my team get slaughtered as they trickle in from far out or I must drop my links and resign to hiding in the corner while the team uses my links to (hopefully) mount a slightly better push than before. It is honestly pretty depressing knowing I can no longer attempt to support the crap blues Scotty gives me. Oh, so no one is telling you that you can't run uplinks, I see. Run uplinks on an assault fitting. Assaults get an equipment slot and 8Mb bandwidth, use it. The advanced uplink can have two active. Or run with a squad and coordinate who is going to carry what equipment. My squads have two people deploying uplinks at all times. Adapt or die.
And now you are the one telling me what to run. (Joking)
Argue how you like but in the pubs I have run to see what effect it is having they were worse than normal proto stomps with an absolute **** flow and most of my team ended up in the MCC before the battle was half over. It was expected that it would ruin pace of play and it has done exactly that.
Lets also not forget that the explaining of this mechanic is absolutely terrible in game. I made several threads asking how this would be presented to new players with little to no answers. Now we are left attempting to support newbies who have ZERO understanding for an over complicated mechanic. Its an outright disaster of a mechanic IMO. |
deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.11 22:12:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:da GAND wrote:Lol seems so many people here are pissed cuz they can't spam equipment around a supply depot or an objective anymore. I've been fine with my commando putting down two uplinks and keeping those around supporting the team. I don't switch out of my suits very much. I'm willing to bet OP was one of those people who began a match in a logi dropsuit to spam nanohives/uplinks then swap to a light assault scout or HMG sentinel to slay. Those seem to be the only folks really upset by this change because they can no longer earn 3,000 WP's per match with minimal effort.
You are a little bit right. I did not spawn with uplinks but would quickly switch to them when I saw our team in need of them. Yes it did lead to a lot of warpoints in some matches but I could care less about that. I already have more ISK than I can spend, BPOs all around, and I am nearly maxed out in every Amarr suit/weapon.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.11 22:15:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Normally I would drop uplinks to help keep my team in the fight but as soon as I do I am told what I am allowed to run without putting us right back in a position of being screwed. Who is telling you what you have to run and why aren't you telling them to go **** themselves? I suppose that would be Scotty. I am either told I can not drop uplinks and must continue to spawn in ****** locations and watch my team get slaughtered as they trickle in from far out or I must drop my links and resign to hiding in the corner while the team uses my links to (hopefully) mount a slightly better push than before. It is honestly pretty depressing knowing I can no longer attempt to support the crap blues Scotty gives me. I literally don't understand this post at all. Your links don't dissappear when you die. You can still fight. Did people really only use links before swapping to sentinels? You know you will do much better in the game if you put your links somewhere more useful than next to a supply depot. Then you can fight instead of seeking out said depot and waste time switching suits.
Very rarely are my links any where near a supply depot. The simple fact is there is no fun in dying repeatedly to scouts because you are in a slow, blind, and overpriced suit just to keep your links alive. Sure you can switch to assault or commando and keep some of your links alive but these are useless when fighting a full team of scouts (for my scrub self anyway)
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.11 22:17:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:da GAND wrote:Yup exactly the kind of people this change was targeted to lol you can still earn plenty of warpoints with equipment and get an ob with 1.10 well... at least it seems like I have been able to with two uplinks lol. The worst are the players who would drop fields of triage nanohives then stand in them as a Gallente or Amarr HMG sentinel. Slightly off topic: Have you earned some of that sweet, sweet Objective Guardian WP? Are you kidding me? Drop an uplink within 50m of a held objective, between it and a taken objective... the WP's just roll in... Mostly thanks to people like OP who refuse to fit uplinks 
When posed with the choice of losing millions to keep links alive or die double digit times staying in my bpo to keep them alive I choose neither. WHY? because there is absolutely NOTHING entertaining about either of the scenarios.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.11 22:43:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:deezy dabest wrote:When posed with the choice of losing millions to keep links alive or die double digit times staying in my bpo to keep them alive I choose neither. WHY? because there is absolutely NOTHING entertaining about either of the scenarios.
When you are losing millions of ISK to keep links up there isn't anything wrong with the links or bandwidth, you are doing it wrong. I'd have to see you play before I could tell you what exactly.
Yep I must be doing it all wrong.
My slow half blind proto logi suit with no weapons bonuses and **** for hit points is a great scout killer.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.11 22:47:00 -
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The simple fact is bandwidth is ****, it is not explained at all to new players (VERY bad for NPE), and it starts down a dangerous road of having our fittings essentially dictated by CCP to us which is against a core value which previously made this game inviting. |
deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.11 22:53:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:deezy dabest wrote:When posed with the choice of losing millions to keep links alive or die double digit times staying in my bpo to keep them alive I choose neither. WHY? because there is absolutely NOTHING entertaining about either of the scenarios.
When you are losing millions of ISK to keep links up there isn't anything wrong with the links or bandwidth, you are doing it wrong. I'd have to see you play before I could tell you what exactly.
You were right. The problem was I was trying to provide support for my team AND win the match. A quick link drop and then hovering the redline in my dropship waiting for my links to get popped is far more profitable and less stressful. |
deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.11 23:02:00 -
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LOL Second place in the match 0/0 with 1625 WP. Only left the redline to drop one set of links. Thank CCP for broken mechanics ensuring noe one else on the team bothers with uplinks. 282K PURE PROFIT, I may just get back over a billion quicker than I thought like this. |
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.11 23:20:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:deezy dabest wrote:LOL Second place in the match 0/0 with 1625 WP. Only left the redline to drop one set of links. Thank CCP for broken mechanics ensuring noe one else on the team bothers with uplinks. 282K PURE PROFIT, I may just get back over a billion quicker than I thought like this. lol dude are you serious? Why do you bother with links if no-one else does? Doesn't sound like you tried to help your team win the game. All I see is you thinking of yourself. Sorry man, I think you probably don't get what the logi and it's equipment is for. But have fun earning your points and ISK...it's not like you're the only one ;-)
Damn straight I am only thinking of myself. Since I am trapped in my logi suit I have no choice since I can not pull out a fighter suit.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.11 23:24:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:deezy dabest wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:deezy dabest wrote:LOL Second place in the match 0/0 with 1625 WP. Only left the redline to drop one set of links. Thank CCP for broken mechanics ensuring noe one else on the team bothers with uplinks. 282K PURE PROFIT, I may just get back over a billion quicker than I thought like this. lol dude are you serious? Why do you bother with links if no-one else does? Doesn't sound like you tried to help your team win the game. All I see is you thinking of yourself. Sorry man, I think you probably don't get what the logi and it's equipment is for. But have fun earning your points and ISK...it's not like you're the only one ;-) Damn straight I am only thinking of myself. Since I am trapped in my logi suit I have no choice since I can not pull out a fighter suit. But....your logi can fight! ::sadface::
Yes it does GREAT* against 3 shotgun scouts.
*great at feeding kills.
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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.11 23:35:00 -
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I think the real question here is why CCP has decided to make it as difficult as possible for you to help your team win. I said it when bandwidth was introduced and I will say it again, locking people in roles when we only have 16 per side is a TERRIBLE idea. |
deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.12.12 00:01:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:deezy dabest wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:deezy dabest wrote:LOL Second place in the match 0/0 with 1625 WP. Only left the redline to drop one set of links. Thank CCP for broken mechanics ensuring noe one else on the team bothers with uplinks. 282K PURE PROFIT, I may just get back over a billion quicker than I thought like this. lol dude are you serious? Why do you bother with links if no-one else does? Doesn't sound like you tried to help your team win the game. All I see is you thinking of yourself. Sorry man, I think you probably don't get what the logi and it's equipment is for. But have fun earning your points and ISK...it's not like you're the only one ;-) Damn straight I am only thinking of myself. Since I am trapped in my logi suit I have no choice since I can not pull out a fighter suit. You're not Trapped in your logi suit. All assaults have BW to support that 1 uplink you supplied.
Yes ONE uplink is amazingly useful. The 25 mini flux OBs that get dropped per match will never take it out.
Obviously you have never seen a dedicated link logi. You sure do not complain when you are spawning on his links tho.
2+2+3 does not equal 1 and certainly is not supported by any suit aside from a logi. Only a proto logi will support this. Getting them out and hiding them is hard enough but now to keep them alive you have to do nothing else for your team. |
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