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Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 3157	Posted - 2014.12.10 21:37:00 - [1] - Quote One of the main problems involving vehicle on vehicle warfare is the bailing in and out of it. A few of the most irritating scenarios will be as follows: LAV scenario: HMG heavy gets in a LAV, drives around mowing down random people getting cheap kills. Heavy goes against another heavy, LAV heavy is getting wrecked, he jumps in his car and drives away, safe and sound. another scenario is the AV LAV combo. AV gets in car, drives in with forge and finds ADS (ADS is where it is most problematic, tanks can just ram LAV and he has nowhere to go). Forge shoots at ADS, ADS goes in, fight starts. Say the ADS is winning, forge goes back in car, and 80% of the time he gets away. HMG heavy gets in LAV with a rail, and snipes in the car, insanely hard to kill because he can swap seats immediately and drive off. ADS scenarios: Say an rail incubus finds and starts assaulting a tank. Tanker jumps out with forge or swarms, ADS has no choice but to run, or die. Imagine the same scenario as above, but this time, the ADS is a python. Python goes in to attack tank, tanker hops out and shoots a forge or swarm at ADS, fight ensues. Say ADS is winning, tanker hops immediately back in his tank, drives off with an ungodly amount of HP to get away from ADS. Tank scenarios: Tank encounters another tank, fight ensues. Tank 1 beats tank 2, tank 2 bails out and starts belting the injured tank 1. Tank 1 dies despite beating the second tank. Tank 1 spots tank 2. Fight ensues again, but this time, tank 2 has two gunners with AV who immediately hop out and assault tank 1. Tank 1 has to flee, tank 2 picks up his compatriots immediately, resumes the chase and tank 1 dies not giving the first tank an opportunity to escape. Tank 1 spots tank 2, again. Tank 1 blows up tank 2, but the second tanker jumps out and activates a cloak, hides for the rest of the game. NOTE: This part is very important, vehicle users should not be subject to this at the initial drop of vehicle (RDV deployment). The reasoning behind this is if he calls his vehicle in the redline, and there is an enemy tank watching, that tank has the opportunity to hammer the tank being called in before he even has a chance to defend himself. God and Empress kill me, I'm a level three forum warrior.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15697	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:02:00 - [2] - Quote A suggestion was made that pilots could have Interface delays between entering and exiting a vehicle to represent the time it takes for your mercenary to connect with the vehicles systems. A Pilot Suit could take 1 second to Embark and Disembark unable to move or cancel the action until its completion and deactivating any modules that may have been active. Light and Medium Frames might have to wait 2 seconds. Heavy Suits might have to wait 3 or 3.5. Passengers could be exempt from these penalties. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1097	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:03:00 - [3] - Quote Agree completely. I thought that using the hack circle would be problematic, but why not change the buttons? X is unused by all vehicles: make Hold X recall and then have a hack circle enter/exit delay. Or something anyway. As an ADS pilot, I'd not mind at all going down with my ship (I often do, just to not get told what killed me anyway.) Edit: or what True Adamance said. That **** is spot on. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
H0riz0n Unlimit Dead Man's Game 231	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:31:00 - [4] - Quote If a tank defeat an enemy tank the enemy should die with his tank in the explosion, doesnt matter how far he is, it s too easy bring a 3 dam mode gunlogi and when your tank blow up use a wyrkomi or a IAFG The KTM DuKe lives here, send a message after the "beep". TheD1ck is on the table fan club. MPRQ-MakingPeopleRageQuit
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 3158	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:37:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Passengers could be exempt from these penalties. Respectfully disagree. The problem with this thought is something I personally do myself. Whenever I get shot down, I usually bail out of a passenger side. I do this because it's less likely to crush me in the crash to happen. Same scenario will happen with a tank, he'll simply put on a turret, swap seats and bail at first chance. God and Empress kill me, I'm a level three forum warrior.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15703	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:41:00 - [6] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: True Adamance wrote: Passengers could be exempt from these penalties. Respectfully disagree. The problem with this thought is something I personally do myself. Whenever I get shot down, I usually bail out of a passenger side. I do this because it's less likely to crush me in the crash to happen. Same scenario will happen with a tank, he'll simply put on a turret, swap seats and bail at first chance. Fair comment. Tbh that was more a conservative suggestion as I didn't know how DS pilots and LAV users would react to that. *"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 471	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:50:00 - [7] - Quote lol nu nu nu. I need my min mando + rail tank so I can kill anything even though im a skill less pilot 99% of what Derrith says is utter stupidity. But this post is that rare 1% where the sh*t he says actually makes sense. & justice for all
Finn Colman Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 92	Posted - 2014.12.10 22:53:00 - [8] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: True Adamance wrote: Passengers could be exempt from these penalties. Respectfully disagree. The problem with this thought is something I personally do myself. Whenever I get shot down, I usually bail out of a passenger side. I do this because it's less likely to crush me in the crash to happen. Same scenario will happen with a tank, he'll simply put on a turret, swap seats and bail at first chance. Why not apply the same delays to switch into/out of the pilot's seat? PSA: Tell players to terminate in order to access mCRUs.
Kaeru Nayiri OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 295	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:09:00 - [9] - Quote Finn Colman wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: True Adamance wrote: Passengers could be exempt from these penalties. Respectfully disagree. The problem with this thought is something I personally do myself. Whenever I get shot down, I usually bail out of a passenger side. I do this because it's less likely to crush me in the crash to happen. Same scenario will happen with a tank, he'll simply put on a turret, swap seats and bail at first chance. Why not apply the same delays to switch into/out of the pilot's seat? My thought exactly.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 3161	Posted - 2014.12.10 23:21:00 - [10] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: lol nu nu nu. I need my min mando + rail tank so I can kill anything even though im a skill less pilot 99% of what Derrith says is utter stupidity. But this post is that rare 1% where the sh*t he says actually makes sense. Your math is off. It's 99.01% stupidity. God and Empress kill me, I'm a level three forum warrior.

Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 126	Posted - 2014.12.11 00:54:00 - [11] - Quote I like this idea i get tired of pounding a tank just to have the tanker drive up hop right out shoot at me he kills me and drives away, flip side he about to die he hops in drives away tank is about to kaboom just for him to hop out and run. The Little Girl with the HMG
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1362	Posted - 2014.12.11 04:55:00 - [12] - Quote We've been asking for this forever. Because, that's why.
Isa Lucifer Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 124	Posted - 2014.12.11 06:27:00 - [13] - Quote bump Amarr Victor
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 207	Posted - 2014.12.11 13:37:00 - [14] - Quote True Adamance wrote: A suggestion was made that pilots could have Interface delays between entering and exiting a vehicle to represent the time it takes for your mercenary to connect with the vehicles systems. A Pilot Suit could take 1 second to Embark and Disembark unable to move or cancel the action until its completion and deactivating any modules that may have been active. Light and Medium Frames might have to wait 2 seconds. Heavy Suits might have to wait 3 or 3.5. Passengers could be exempt from these penalties. 1. Would +1 it but that last line is such a bad idea i want to -1000 it but because frankly it doesnt stop anything 2. The pilot suit would be useful and also then a must for pilots and anyone who wants to pilot 3. If the blaster wasnt so bad at accuracy i wouldnt have to jump out with my HMG 3a. If the small turrets wasnt so bad maybe i would fit them 3b. If the vehicles could actually fit a decent tank without having to nerf it to fit on small turrets maybe i would use small turrets
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 3208	Posted - 2014.12.18 19:12:00 - [15] - Quote shameless bump. 99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg Oh yeah?! Well, I love redheads.


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