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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:13:00 -
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So I am in my Minmatar Proto logi and it seems I cannot place more than 3 remote explosives at a time.
Thinking further,
A. I hope once fixed we can still place all 12+ remote explosives on a Jihad Vehicle.
B. I assume now there wont be the option to switch to a free suit after placing remotes.
Basically this is a huge huge nerf to Kamikaze LAV`s. My main concern is the ability to place ALL remote explosives. ISK concerns come second.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
567
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:14:00 -
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4 boundless remotes is enough isn't it?
GimmeDatSuhWeet isk
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15650
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:15:00 -
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I hope they're nerfed into oblivion....they were a bad mechanic anyway and the hall marks of AVers and Tankers alike who couldn't do their jobs right.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:16:00 -
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Its a bug. Bandwidth numbers are much lower than intended for logis
You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
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Robocop Junior
research lab
846
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:16:00 -
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And proxies! I have no other dropsuits on my heavy so I would use a Fed logi suit to drop the 15 proxies and switch back to FG but now it went from hoopla to poopla. But if you get 3 boundless remotes plus doesn't the LAV damage total on top of the remotes?
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:17:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:4 boundless remotes is enough isn't it?
I do not think so.
Once a tank (especially shield tanks) have their hardeners up, I do not think 4 will cut it.
I always stick on as many as possible. 12+ usually.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3053
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:17:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:4 boundless remotes is enough isn't it?
Shield tanks can get over 11k HP with ease. 4 boundless RE's won't do the trick. You'd need 7 boundless RE's to do the trick.
Thats where the republic comes in 
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:17:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I hope they're nerfed into oblivion....they were a bad mechanic anyway and the hall marks of AVers and Tankers alike who couldn't do their jobs right.
No no, the ability to place them and then switch to a free suit was unfair.
The ability to use said tactic is no more scrubby than HMG sentinel spam at objectives.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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Cody Sietz
Random Gunz
RISE of LEGION
4189
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:18:00 -
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Well duh.
Not trying to be a jerk, but it was honestly not fair. And this is coming from a AV guy.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6493
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:18:00 -
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It has to be a glitch. You should have plenty of bandwidth unless you were going overkill with you RE numbers on the JJ to begin with.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
2710
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:20:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Well duh.
Not trying to be a jerk, but it was honestly not fair. And this is coming from a AV guy.
Its ok, you are entitled to your opinion and need not apologise. However please see my above post. It was only "unfair" that you could switch to a free suit. (Some people also had free LAV`s)
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:25:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Well duh.
Not trying to be a jerk, but it was honestly not fair. And this is coming from a AV guy. Its ok, you are entitled to your opinion and need not apologise. However please see my above post. It was only "unfair" that you could switch to a free suit. (Some people also had free LAV`s)
Not it was unfair that with less than 100,000 ISK you could make an instant kill magic homing missile that moved at 100kmph and had the on board guidance slightly more intelligent than a raccoon but still enough to take it directly into the hull of its intended target.
And with a many "hyuk hyuks" the on board guidance re-spawns to do it all over again........
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
2710
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:29:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Well duh.
Not trying to be a jerk, but it was honestly not fair. And this is coming from a AV guy. Its ok, you are entitled to your opinion and need not apologise. However please see my above post. It was only "unfair" that you could switch to a free suit. (Some people also had free LAV`s) Not it was unfair that with less than 100,000 ISK you could make an instant kill magic homing missile that moved at 100kmph and had the on board guidance slightly more intelligent than a raccoon but still enough to take it directly into the hull of its intended target. And with a many "hyuk hyuks" the on board guidance re-spawns to do it all over again........
Awareness. This is key. Tankers can use 1st person and 3rd person view points. I suggest to be as aware as humanly possible.
Level lay out - LAV`s struggle like hell to gain any speed or direction unless they are on the tarmacked road. Offroad and across hills not only is a tank generally faster, it also gives many an opportunity to shoot at the Jihad LAV as it fumbles over the mud and stuff.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15653
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:34:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:True Adamance wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Well duh.
Not trying to be a jerk, but it was honestly not fair. And this is coming from a AV guy. Its ok, you are entitled to your opinion and need not apologise. However please see my above post. It was only "unfair" that you could switch to a free suit. (Some people also had free LAV`s) Not it was unfair that with less than 100,000 ISK you could make an instant kill magic homing missile that moved at 100kmph and had the on board guidance slightly more intelligent than a raccoon but still enough to take it directly into the hull of its intended target. And with a many "hyuk hyuks" the on board guidance re-spawns to do it all over again........ Awareness. This is key. Tankers can use 1st person and 3rd person view points. I suggest to be as aware as humanly possible. Level lay out - LAV`s struggle like hell to gain any speed or direction unless they are on the tarmacked road. Offroad and across hills not only is a tank generally faster, it also gives many an opportunity to shoot at the Jihad LAV as it fumbles over the mud and stuff.
I know this but reacting to one it more difficult.
Rails and Missiles are unreliable as their tracking is poor and if they detonate the LAV too close you still go up in smoke and the large blaster is a weapon based on pure luck rather than aim.
Prior to 1. 8 I could pick the remotes on a Jihad individually now I'd be damn lucky to even hit where I'm aiming.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1904
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:43:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I hope they're nerfed into oblivion....they were a bad mechanic anyway and the hall marks of AVers and Tankers alike who couldn't do their jobs right.
It's the hallmark of emergent gameplay that resulted from the demi-god mode tanks that were driving around for almost half a year.
[RYJC]
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True Adamance
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Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15656
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:55:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:True Adamance wrote:I hope they're nerfed into oblivion....they were a bad mechanic anyway and the hall marks of AVers and Tankers alike who couldn't do their jobs right. It's the hallmark of emergent gameplay that resulted from the demi-god mode tanks that were driving around for almost half a year.
Dude it was 3 months.... three ******* months at the start of this year..... after Upriing 1.0 through 1.6 having AV uttered wipe the floor with vehicles and deny them a place on the battlefield.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
700
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Posted - 2014.12.10 03:56:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Thumb Green wrote:True Adamance wrote:I hope they're nerfed into oblivion....they were a bad mechanic anyway and the hall marks of AVers and Tankers alike who couldn't do their jobs right. It's the hallmark of emergent gameplay that resulted from the demi-god mode tanks that were driving around for almost half a year. Dude it was 3 months.... three ******* months at the start of this year..... after Upriing 1.0 through 1.6 having AV uttered wipe the floor with vehicles and deny them a place on the battlefield.
You can't expect infantry to understand at all. I dare all of you to spend that $20 and spec into a vehicle. You won't do it and you know why.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5710
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Posted - 2014.12.10 04:03:00 -
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I have. I understand vehicles just fine.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
5004
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Posted - 2014.12.10 04:04:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:gustavo acosta wrote:4 boundless remotes is enough isn't it? I do not think so. Once a tank (especially shield tanks) have their hardeners up, I do not think 4 will cut it. I always stick on as many as possible. 12+ usually.
I saw 2 dudes doing that in Factional. I shot one of the REs with my shotgun and one committed suicide, and the other friendly fire against his squad mate.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.12.10 04:04:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:True Adamance wrote:Thumb Green wrote:True Adamance wrote:I hope they're nerfed into oblivion....they were a bad mechanic anyway and the hall marks of AVers and Tankers alike who couldn't do their jobs right. It's the hallmark of emergent gameplay that resulted from the demi-god mode tanks that were driving around for almost half a year. Dude it was 3 months.... three ******* months at the start of this year..... after Upriing 1.0 through 1.6 having AV uttered wipe the floor with vehicles and deny them a place on the battlefield. You can't expect infantry to understand at all. I dare all of you to spend that $20 and spec into a vehicle. You won't do it and you know why.
Quite the contrary who wouldn't spec into Shield HAV?
Ask them to spec into Armour HAV and attempt to fill their slots.
Actually ask them to try and make anything better than a standard module fit on a Soma/ Madrugar and then competitively play with that.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
700
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Posted - 2014.12.10 04:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:True Adamance wrote:Thumb Green wrote:True Adamance wrote:I hope they're nerfed into oblivion....they were a bad mechanic anyway and the hall marks of AVers and Tankers alike who couldn't do their jobs right. It's the hallmark of emergent gameplay that resulted from the demi-god mode tanks that were driving around for almost half a year. Dude it was 3 months.... three ******* months at the start of this year..... after Upriing 1.0 through 1.6 having AV uttered wipe the floor with vehicles and deny them a place on the battlefield. You can't expect infantry to understand at all. I dare all of you to spend that $20 and spec into a vehicle. You won't do it and you know why. Quite the contrary who wouldn't spec into Shield HAV? Ask them to spec into Armour HAV and attempt to fill their slots. Actually ask them to try and make anything better than a standard module fit on a Soma/ Madrugar.
Yes, you can tell armor HAV is in a bad place when Milkman switches to a Gunnlogi.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2014.12.10 04:09:00 -
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Many call this a scrub tactic and I've fallen victim to this several times in the past but every time I pulled it off I would laugh my @%# off. Tankers will be safer but the cheap laugh is gone =ƒÿó |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.12.10 04:09:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:
Yes, you can tell armor HAV is in a bad place when Milkman switches to a Gunnlogi.
He's been Gunnlogi-ing since 1.7 and people were too thrilled with that broken piece of **** the Tripple rep maddy to notice how epic Shield HAV were.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
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Posted - 2014.12.10 04:28:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Thumb Green wrote:True Adamance wrote:I hope they're nerfed into oblivion....they were a bad mechanic anyway and the hall marks of AVers and Tankers alike who couldn't do their jobs right. It's the hallmark of emergent gameplay that resulted from the demi-god mode tanks that were driving around for almost half a year. Dude it was 3 months.... three ******* months at the start of this year..... after Upriing 1.0 through 1.6 having AV uttered wipe the floor with vehicles and deny them a place on the battlefield.
It was 5 months and was damn close to being 6. I'm not saying AV wasn't OP against the UP tanks prior to that's irrelevant to the fact that tanks were demi-god mode for almost 6 months.
[RYJC]
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1905
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Posted - 2014.12.10 04:31:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:True Adamance wrote:Thumb Green wrote:True Adamance wrote:I hope they're nerfed into oblivion....they were a bad mechanic anyway and the hall marks of AVers and Tankers alike who couldn't do their jobs right. It's the hallmark of emergent gameplay that resulted from the demi-god mode tanks that were driving around for almost half a year. Dude it was 3 months.... three ******* months at the start of this year..... after Upriing 1.0 through 1.6 having AV uttered wipe the floor with vehicles and deny them a place on the battlefield. You can't expect infantry to understand at all. I dare all of you to spend that $20 and spec into a vehicle. You won't do it and you know why.
I'm not solely infantry. I'm skilled into both, tanks and ADS as well though I'm not very good at staying stable in the ADS.
[RYJC]
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.12.10 04:44:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:True Adamance wrote:Thumb Green wrote:True Adamance wrote:I hope they're nerfed into oblivion....they were a bad mechanic anyway and the hall marks of AVers and Tankers alike who couldn't do their jobs right. It's the hallmark of emergent gameplay that resulted from the demi-god mode tanks that were driving around for almost half a year. Dude it was 3 months.... three ******* months at the start of this year..... after Upriing 1.0 through 1.6 having AV uttered wipe the floor with vehicles and deny them a place on the battlefield. You can't expect infantry to understand at all. I dare all of you to spend that $20 and spec into a vehicle. You won't do it and you know why. I'm not solely infantry. I'm skilled into both, tanks and ADS as well though I'm not very good at staying stable in the ADS.
I can't fly DS for ****..... used to be a recurring joke in Dead Six that you didn't fly with Harkon because he was going to crash you into a mountain.
*"He spoke, and we made it so all worlds were one, all peoples were one, all faiths, creeds, and nationalities were one.
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brett morris518
is well hung
28
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Posted - 2014.12.10 05:06:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:True Adamance wrote:I hope they're nerfed into oblivion....they were a bad mechanic anyway and the hall marks of AVers and Tankers alike who couldn't do their jobs right. No no, the ability to place them and then switch to a free suit was unfair. The ability to use said tactic is no more scrubby than HMG sentinel spam at objectives.
Dude, you can still do it... Put a crap ton of remotes on a bpo LAV and switch into an apex logi.. Problem solved.. |
CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.10 05:10:00 -
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brett morris518 wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:True Adamance wrote:I hope they're nerfed into oblivion....they were a bad mechanic anyway and the hall marks of AVers and Tankers alike who couldn't do their jobs right. No no, the ability to place them and then switch to a free suit was unfair. The ability to use said tactic is no more scrubby than HMG sentinel spam at objectives. Dude, you can still do it... Put a crap ton of remotes on a bpo LAV and switch into an apex logi.. Problem solved..
You absolute legend Brett Morris how did I not think of that!
You totally just convinced me to get the Shaman Logi! (Still CCP need to fix the bandwidth)
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
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brett morris518
is well hung
28
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Posted - 2014.12.10 05:13:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:brett morris518 wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:True Adamance wrote:I hope they're nerfed into oblivion....they were a bad mechanic anyway and the hall marks of AVers and Tankers alike who couldn't do their jobs right. No no, the ability to place them and then switch to a free suit was unfair. The ability to use said tactic is no more scrubby than HMG sentinel spam at objectives. Dude, you can still do it... Put a crap ton of remotes on a bpo LAV and switch into an apex logi.. Problem solved.. You absolute legend Brett Morris how did I not think of that! You totally just convinced me to get the Shaman Logi! (Still CCP need to fix the bandwidth)
Yeah but once it gets fixed that's gonna be a thing haha.. I'm sure some tankers were thinking it but keeping their mouth closed. Your welcome tanks :D |
brett morris518
is well hung
28
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Posted - 2014.12.10 05:17:00 -
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brett morris518 wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:brett morris518 wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:True Adamance wrote:I hope they're nerfed into oblivion....they were a bad mechanic anyway and the hall marks of AVers and Tankers alike who couldn't do their jobs right. No no, the ability to place them and then switch to a free suit was unfair. The ability to use said tactic is no more scrubby than HMG sentinel spam at objectives. Dude, you can still do it... Put a crap ton of remotes on a bpo LAV and switch into an apex logi.. Problem solved.. You absolute legend Brett Morris how did I not think of that! You totally just convinced me to get the Shaman Logi! (Still CCP need to fix the bandwidth) Yeah but once it gets fixed that's gonna be a thing haha.. I'm sure some tankers were thinking it but keeping their mouth closed. Your welcome tanks :D
We are truly evil minded men, commander.. We need to go on another stomping spree with our basic gear again soon, that was fun |
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