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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.08 23:07:00 -
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So how does this work? Because it looks like it excludes long range rifle users
For example if I'm 100m away from point raping people at the point will i get extra wp? I'm not within 50 of the point but I am defending it.
For that matter if points being hacked and i snipe the hacker..which is obviously something I should get guardian for i won't
I think they should add a second function rewarding guardian points for enemies killed within 50 of point.
As is guardian points will completely exclude long range protection
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
5002
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Posted - 2014.12.08 23:11:00 -
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While as someone who enjoys the bliss of long range target removal, I do sympathize, the goal, as I know it, is to encourage people to play on the points. Sniping from a distance will not be as lucrative. Unless, of course, you're scoring headshots. ;)
I would suggest that the higher risk involved in playing at the point likely justifies the difference in WP from those playing from an extreme distance.
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
967
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Posted - 2014.12.08 23:15:00 -
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Slave of MORTE wrote:So how does this work? Because it looks like it excludes long range rifle users
For example if I'm 100m away from point raping people at the point will i get extra wp? I'm not within 50 of the point but I am defending it.
For that matter if points being hacked and i snipe the hacker..which is obviously something I should get guardian for i won't
I think they should add a second function rewarding guardian points for enemies killed within 50 of point.
As is guardian points will completely exclude long range protection
As a sniper, you could just snipe from the inside out, choosing a favorable position within the 50m objective radius.
Oh wait, that's right, you want kills without being killed.
Go kiss a tanker on the mouth, chachi
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
6169
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Posted - 2014.12.08 23:24:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:While as someone who enjoys the bliss of long range target removal, I do sympathize, the goal, as I know it, is to encourage people to play on the points. Sniping from a distance will not be as lucrative. Unless, of course, you're scoring headshots. ;)
I would suggest that the higher risk involved in playing at the point likely justifies the difference in WP from those playing from an extreme distance.
Yup. I dont like snipers either. +1
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
122
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Posted - 2014.12.08 23:33:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Slave of MORTE wrote:So how does this work? Because it looks like it excludes long range rifle users
For example if I'm 100m away from point raping people at the point will i get extra wp? I'm not within 50 of the point but I am defending it.
For that matter if points being hacked and i snipe the hacker..which is obviously something I should get guardian for i won't
I think they should add a second function rewarding guardian points for enemies killed within 50 of point.
As is guardian points will completely exclude long range protection As a sniper, you could just snipe from the inside out, choosing a favorable position within the 50m objective radius. Oh wait, that's right, you want kills without being killed. Go kiss a tanker on the mouth, chachi. Edit: That was mean. You don't have to kiss anyone you don't want to. Lol one run several roles
I do not run sniper anyone who knows me knows this I run logi sentinel scout commando assault ..i specialize in every role except Sniper Scogi Slayer scout
If I see a point being hacked and i kill the bastard and wipe out his squad from 80 away with my Lr I should get the extra points. I am defending the point. I should not be forced to move outside my area of expertise to do this.
Circling around a point killing people before they get said point is defending the point no matter the range you do it at. There is no higher risk in cqc over longe range if anything long range is harder as your mostly alone ..not surrounded by a horde of logis and sentinels in a mass of soldiers..
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
467
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Posted - 2014.12.09 01:31:00 -
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He makes a fair point. Some guns are long range. Snipers, lasers, RRs, Scramblers, etc. They shouldn't be penalized for playing the outside. Seems to me, to be fair, killing FROM the point (your person is standing in the circle) no matter the target's location as well as killing TO the point (your person is NOT in the circle, the person you kill is) would be acceptable. |
Sinboto Simmons
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
6599
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Posted - 2014.12.09 01:47:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:He makes a fair point. Some guns are long range. Snipers, lasers, RRs, Scramblers, etc. They shouldn't be penalized for playing the outside. Seems to me, to be fair, killing FROM the point (your person is standing in the circle) no matter the target's location as well as killing TO the point (your person is NOT in the circle, the person you kill is) would be acceptable. That being said, the latter is far more abuse prone.
Do we really want to award the guys camping rooftops with easy orbitals?
Hell I can think of a few dom maps where this would be milked harder than water in a desert.
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
469
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Posted - 2014.12.09 05:56:00 -
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Well, theoretically that means counter snipers will be needed. The sniper class has trouble being useful as part of a team in dust. However, this gives them a job when both on offense and defense. More to the point, with the new OB options (laser the thales guy anyone?) I doubt you will see near as much rooftop camping as you used to. Also, they have to have a clear view into the point, and at the moment MOST map points are heavily covered by topography and structures of various types. |
Robocop Junior
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
820
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Posted - 2014.12.09 06:42:00 -
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Awww snipers still think they are useful and deserve the rewards the less cowardly get, how cute.
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Spectral Clone
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
3280
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Posted - 2014.12.09 09:10:00 -
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This is a non-issue.
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jane stalin
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2014.12.09 10:13:00 -
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If you live near the objective you do not live long
you have to face sentinels AND , slayer scouts and long range rapists that are covering the target
We can't all be long range specialists, so the people with a higher risk of death should be rewarded.
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Edau Skir2
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2014.12.09 10:22:00 -
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The amount of times I have defended a point with a Sniper, and stopped an attacker killing a team mate, is more than I can count. Whilst the ScR players moan that we're useless, remember who it is taking out spawn points and players on the high ground that your ScR can't get to.
The way I see it, Snipers should get extra wp's if their actions result to the point being defended, just like anyone else. |
Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
130
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Posted - 2014.12.09 12:12:00 -
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Edau Skir2 wrote:The amount of times I have defended a point with a Sniper, and stopped an attacker killing a team mate, is more than I can count. Whilst the ScR players moan that we're useless, remember who it is taking out spawn points and players on the high ground that your ScR can't get to.
The way I see it, Snipers should get extra wp's if their actions result to the point being defended, just like anyone else. I agree ide also like to note this effects more than snipers ..lr rr rail tanks snipers all engage outside 50m.
Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
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