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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:47:00 -
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Just so you know, I'm pissed about the major nerf to SOLO as I outlined in my video.
>>WE BETTER BE ALLOWED TO GET SKILLPOINTS FOR LEAVING A DAMN MATCH THAT IS REDLINED. <<
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNqtvTc1_UE
CPM doesn't care about solo players, I'm hoping 1.11 will have friendly fire enabled for squad members for public matches. Of course safe guards will be in place to keep griefers from joining squads for 24 hours.
END OF RANT!!!
Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
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Hakyou Brutor
Titans of Phoenix
1764
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:52:00 -
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That's cause DUST isn't a solo game.
Knight Soiaire = my bae
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SILENT GIANT
FATHERS-AND-SONS
193
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:58:00 -
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Or, make squadding more simple, similar to what I posted here. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=183373&find=unread
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RayRay James
Titans of Phoenix
792
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:59:00 -
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You don't care about roles, you're mad CCP is taking away your ability to WP wh*re with crap placed drop links.
You are not supposed to be able to do what you did. That's a logi's job. You are not supposed to spawn all that equipment then switch to a heavy.
Also, on a video related note. Please leave the longer segments of text on screen longer, there were some that were gone before they could entirely be read.
Over all, I think you proved exactly why bandwidth is needed with your videoinstead of proving your position. |
Boot Booter
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
1044
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:59:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:That's cause DUST isn't a solo game.
Where does it say that? |
RayRay James
Titans of Phoenix
792
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:03:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:That's cause DUST isn't a solo game. Where does it say that?
Nowhere
You are allowed to play as a solo player, just don't complain that teamwork is OP then.
I'm a dad of two year old, I don't always get in squads either. When playing like that, I still try and work with the team instead of lone wolfing it. The lone wolf will almost always have a bad time |
Z3dog
BIG BAD W0LVES
38
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:08:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:That's cause DUST isn't a solo game.
Sandbox: play however you want. Unless you're a logi.
Dust 5/14
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Boot Booter
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
1044
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:10:00 -
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To the OP, I fail to see your point in the video. It looked like your initial uplinks were quickly destroyed and you started spawning on a teammates uplinks. Like it or not you were dependent on your team in that video. I think bandwidth will greatly improve the logi as a role rather than logi being a suit which you spam equipment then switch to something else. |
Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
14175
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:11:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:That's cause DUST isn't a solo game. Sandbox: play however you want. Unless you're a logi. If you're actually playing as a Logistics than you'll still be able to use your Drop Uplinks.
The 1st Matari Commando
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3841
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:12:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:That's cause DUST isn't a solo game. That's funny cuz it started out a solo game.
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CharacterNameWasTaken
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:25:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:That's cause DUST isn't a solo game. neither is your mom shes way to big to go at solo..
"Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2363
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:27:00 -
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Z3dog wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:That's cause DUST isn't a solo game. Sandbox: play however you want. Unless you're a logi. or a heavy
PSN: RationalSpark
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
289
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:38:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:You don't care about roles, you're mad CCP is taking away your ability to WP wh*re with crap placed drop links.
You are not supposed to be able to do what you did. That's a logi's job. You are not supposed to spawn all that equipment then switch to a heavy.
Also, on a video related note. Please leave the longer segments of text on screen longer, there were some that were gone before they could entirely be read.
Over all, I think you proved exactly why bandwidth is needed with your video instead of proving your position.
His uplinks won't survive anyway come next week, want to know why?
I average 1800 wp a game
New 50m EMP is only 300wp...
1800/300= 6
That's 6 Small 50m EMP Strikes by ME. SOLO....
Those pipes, that tower... are going to be bombed... relentlessly.
Now for the lowly solo new bro... 300wp is achievable...
It will be raining ElectroMagneticPulse bruthas...
http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6307
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:40:00 -
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I'm a solo player and I think that people feeling entitled to spam equipment is ridiculous.
So please do not argue your point under the banner of solo player as it insults the intelligence of the entire scattered solo community.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Hakyou Brutor
Titans of Phoenix
1766
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:42:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:That's cause DUST isn't a solo game. That's funny cuz it started out a solo game. But it's not now.
Go into a PC with 16 people who don't know eachother and don't communicate and see how far you get.
Knight Soiaire = my bae
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
2363
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:44:00 -
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STYLIE77 wrote:RayRay James wrote:You don't care about roles, you're mad CCP is taking away your ability to WP wh*re with crap placed drop links.
You are not supposed to be able to do what you did. That's a logi's job. You are not supposed to spawn all that equipment then switch to a heavy.
Also, on a video related note. Please leave the longer segments of text on screen longer, there were some that were gone before they could entirely be read.
Over all, I think you proved exactly why bandwidth is needed with your video instead of proving your position. His uplinks won't survive anyway come next week, want to know why? I average 1800 wp a game New 50m EMP is only 300wp... 1800/300= 6 That's 6 Small 50m EMP Strikes by ME. SOLO.... Those pipes, that tower... are going to be bombed... relentlessly. Now for the lowly solo new bro... 300wp is achievable... It will be raining ElectroMagneticPulse bruthas... Yeah, me too. Lots of players score high WP. Scannable Deployables will be blasted to hell and gone.
I always put out fallback uplinks at the start of a match, but if i have to fit proto to keep them hidden i'm not sure it'll be worth it.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5371
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:56:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:That's cause DUST isn't a solo game. This is the correct answer.
RayRay James wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:That's cause DUST isn't a solo game. Where does it say that? Nowhere Actually, it says it on the Dust 514 official site. Dust 514 FAQ, heading: WHAT KIND OF GAMEPLAY CAN I EXPECT IN DUST 514?
The link wrote:Combat in DUST 514 is tactical and squad-based, and rewards you for playing as a team.
My advice to you, playa...
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4917
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Posted - 2014.12.06 19:40:00 -
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The CPM DO care about solo players to a certain extent. That is why at least one of them pushed for the ADS nerf and AV balancing. Now, only one is enough to destroy one if you're lucky. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2460
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Posted - 2014.12.06 20:03:00 -
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No disrespect to the OP, who I respect, but if given the choice between FPS/team play on one hand and solo play on the other, I'll take the former every time. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10424
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Posted - 2014.12.06 20:09:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm a solo player and I think that people feeling entitled to spam equipment is ridiculous.
So please do not argue your point under the banner of solo player as it insults the intelligence of the entire scattered solo community.
I'm mostly solo as well. Unlike some people around here, I don't WP farm by spamming equipment all over the mushroom structure in the city and then run the rest of the match as a scout.
Every suit has a particular set of limits here. Take heavies as an example. Being a heavy practically makes it impossible to be a solo player because you need someone with you to repair your armor when you're heavily damaged, someone to keep an eye out for enemy scouts for you, and someone to help you replenish your ammo when the nearest supply depot is too far away and your suit is too expensive to suicide in.
With 1.10, logis will be in high demand because they will be the ONLY ONES that can provide exactly what everyone else needs. Logistics will no longer be marginalized by scouts who have two equipment slots and they will no longer be relegated to just being spam-equipment-early-in-match suits that you later dispose of and switch to your assault/heavy/scout for the remainder of the match.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5676
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Posted - 2014.12.06 20:14:00 -
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Logis are now independently more important.
Now logis?
Punn your heads OUT of your collective ass and realize a simple truth:
A logi leashed to a sentinel is a warpoint farmer.
A logi supporting an assault squad is a force multiplier. Have your boys carry needles to pick you up.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
676
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Posted - 2014.12.07 01:56:00 -
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It's ******* pull ship,
SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME AND NOT BE A LOGI AND NOT ONE PERSON ON MY TEAM CAN DEPLOY UPLINKS?
DO I LEAVE THE MATCH AND LOSS SP??? (Btw you get some payment when you leave)
OR DO I SIT IN THE REDLINE AND WAIT THE GAME OUT? (I hear rubber banding the controller is a good option)
What are you my options now??
ALL YOU SMART MOTHER TRUCKERS WITH YOUR SASSY COMMENTS TELL ME WHAT TO DO?
I already asked CPM and CCP isn't providing a free logi in every public match.
Sky Deployment isn't coming out...
Things are already bad enough when you get a crappy team and we are stuck in the redline
The squad finder is horrible because 15% of the time you get people that make you wait and wait and wait.. it's horrible enough already.
There is no preset Squad bandwidth so I can deploy sensable uplinks to move the team out of the redline??
Your not hurting equipment spammers your hurting the solo game. Plus good luck spaming in 1.10 with EMP orbitals every 6 kills that go threw buildings.
Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1394
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Posted - 2014.12.07 02:04:00 -
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NextDark Knight wrote:It's ******* pull ship,
SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME AND NOT BE A LOGI AND NOT ONE PERSON ON MY TEAM CAN DEPLOY UPLINKS?
is there no one in your corp who will answer that call of duty?
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
676
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Posted - 2014.12.07 02:07:00 -
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I don't speak for my corp, I hardly ever get a chance to play with them anyway ...
Plus if I was squaded with them .. More people will be making posting about how Team work is OP and it should be removed from the game.. Watch what you wish for..
Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
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RA Drahcir
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
390
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Posted - 2014.12.07 03:16:00 -
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The uplink spam isn't for WP farming, it is a preventative measure for being redlined. I do this all the time. Bring links forward, switch to assault or scout. Red vehicles? Commando to AV. Intense frontline fighting? Counter with heavy. Heavies being spammed? Scout or sit back in long range assault. My team is spamming heavies? Min logi with a rep tool, scans, hives. Uplinks down? Get 7 proto links on the ground.
You cant rely on the blue STD and MLTs to getterdun. |
Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3844
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Posted - 2014.12.07 03:17:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:That's cause DUST isn't a solo game. That's funny cuz it started out a solo game. But it's not now. Go into a PC with 16 people who don't know eachother and don't communicate and see how far you get. There's more to dust than just pc and we all know that. And I've been apart of that before where we brought in all players from our local. Sorry bud your argument sucks ass, go to pc where no one fkn plays anymore. This game does not revolve around pc.
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First Prophet
Followers of The Prophet
2014
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Posted - 2014.12.07 03:47:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:That's cause DUST isn't a solo game. It's not even really a game if you think about it.
People find this this review helpful!
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Sergeant Sazu
Kitties of Doom
220
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Posted - 2014.12.07 03:54:00 -
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That HMG gameplay was cringeworthy.
[35.4m SP - Next skill: Drop Uplink Deployment 3]
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
2548
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Posted - 2014.12.07 03:59:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm a solo player and I think that people feeling entitled to spam equipment is ridiculous.
So please do not argue your point under the banner of solo player as it insults the intelligence of the entire scattered solo community.
Your the one grouping solo players who use equipment in the group of players who "Spam" Equipment.
The average solo player isn't on DUST forums or has never really been on them. They have used the sand in the sandbox to contribute and compete by using equipment and different suits in the average match.
These players on average don't "Spam" Equipment.. They don't have time for it. The equipment is stuff that they need and the general team needs... Like Uplinks close to objectives or points of contention.
More often the squaded player is the one sitting at Supply depots and "SPamming" The area with equipment.
More Often it is the squaded players who all use Uplink suits and jump in a dropship and all setup camp.
We could of fixed the issue with Proximity limits to supply depots and other equipment..
We are instead nerfing all equipment use right across DUST.
The uplink usually active on maps that you see all day while playing DUST is placed by the solo player. The Equipment farms that make radar's un readable are placed by squaded mercenaries.
Let's atleast look at this with the truth of it.. Not some rose colored glasses that are used as the justified reasoning. |
Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2218
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Posted - 2014.12.07 03:59:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I'm a solo player and I think that people feeling entitled to spam equipment is ridiculous.
So please do not argue your point under the banner of solo player as it insults the intelligence of the entire scattered solo community. I'm mostly solo as well. Unlike some people around here, I don't WP farm by spamming equipment all over the mushroom structure in the city and then run the rest of the match as a scout. Every suit has a particular set of limits here. Take heavies as an example. Being a heavy practically makes it impossible to be a solo player because you need someone with you to repair your armor when you're heavily damaged, someone to keep an eye out for enemy scouts for you, and someone to help you replenish your ammo when the nearest supply depot is too far away and your suit is too expensive to suicide in. With 1.10, logis will be in high demand because they will be the ONLY ONES that can provide exactly what everyone else needs. Logistics will no longer be marginalized by scouts who have two equipment slots and they will no longer be relegated to just being spam-equipment-early-in-match suits that you later dispose of and switch to your assault/heavy/scout for the remainder of the match. This guy gets it.
I Live for Tears
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5386
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Posted - 2014.12.07 04:20:00 -
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I'll go on record saying these changes will lead to more redline matches and more unbalanced gameplay.
This change does nerf solo gameplay, but solo gameplay wasn't easy before. Instead of squading up people QQ'd on the forums and played passively hoping others would do all the work.
If these changes were to prod people into groups it'll still take an increase in payouts to push people to fight harder.
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2219
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Posted - 2014.12.07 04:47:00 -
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NextDark Knight wrote:It's ******* pull ship,
SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME AND NOT BE A LOGI AND NOT ONE PERSON ON MY TEAM CAN DEPLOY UPLINKS? Run Uplinks on your Assault. Dumbass.
You fail to realize "HEY, THESE THINGS HAVE EQUIPMENT TOO!"
You can run Uplinks on your suit. It won't hurt anything to the links. Really. I do it.
You can run the max number of links that you can throw out anyway on a Assaults Band.
If you play Sentinel, then your ******. Maybe you might choose a suit thats NOT a suit thats primarily designed to be powerful when supported, and weak otherwise. You choose a suit with no equip. Sorry. Put 30K SP in and buy a Medium Basic, and a light gun and then feel free to put whatever equip you want in the slot.
I Live for Tears
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
971
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Posted - 2014.12.07 04:52:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:It's ******* pull ship,
SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME AND NOT BE A LOGI AND NOT ONE PERSON ON MY TEAM CAN DEPLOY UPLINKS? Run Uplinks on your Assault. Dumbass. You fail to realize "HEY, THESE THINGS HAVE EQUIPMENT TOO!" You can run Uplinks on your suit. It won't hurt anything to the links. Really. I do it. You can run the max number of links that you can throw out anyway on a Assaults Band. If you play Sentinel, then your ******. Maybe you might choose a suit thats NOT a suit thats primarily designed to be powerful when supported, and weak otherwise. You choose a suit with no equip. Sorry. Put 30K SP in and buy a Medium Basic, and a light gun and then feel free to put whatever equip you want in the slot.
1. Assaults need ammo, not a used up equipment slot with 0 uplinks left to deploy.
2. When you deploy an uplink on the ground, do you stay within 10 meters of it and defend friendlies who are spawning in? If not, you are doing your team a disservice when they get camped/REd and your link is removed by hostiles.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
2551
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Posted - 2014.12.07 04:54:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:It's ******* pull ship,
SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME AND NOT BE A LOGI AND NOT ONE PERSON ON MY TEAM CAN DEPLOY UPLINKS? Run Uplinks on your Assault. Dumbass. You fail to realize "HEY, THESE THINGS HAVE EQUIPMENT TOO!" You can run Uplinks on your suit. It won't hurt anything to the links. Really. I do it. You can run the max number of links that you can throw out anyway on a Assaults Band. If you play Sentinel, then your ******. Maybe you might choose a suit thats NOT a suit thats primarily designed to be powerful when supported, and weak otherwise. You choose a suit with no equip. Sorry. Put 30K SP in and buy a Medium Basic, and a light gun and then feel free to put whatever equip you want in the slot.
STOP TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE HEAVY AS A SQUAD ONLY SUIT. IT HAS NEVER BEEN THIS WAY.
It makes my eyes bleed, vision blur and my head throb uncontrollably.
You either play this game once or twice every two weeks.... Or just haven't played for 6 months and have bought into some of the made up forum bullshit.
This is what theory crafting looks like in DUST when you are out of touch with how the game actually plays.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3845
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Posted - 2014.12.07 04:57:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:It's ******* pull ship,
SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME AND NOT BE A LOGI AND NOT ONE PERSON ON MY TEAM CAN DEPLOY UPLINKS? Run Uplinks on your Assault. Dumbass. You fail to realize "HEY, THESE THINGS HAVE EQUIPMENT TOO!" You can run Uplinks on your suit. It won't hurt anything to the links. Really. I do it. You can run the max number of links that you can throw out anyway on a Assaults Band. If you play Sentinel, then your ******. Maybe you might choose a suit thats NOT a suit thats primarily designed to be powerful when supported, and weak otherwise. You choose a suit with no equip. Sorry. Put 30K SP in and buy a Medium Basic, and a light gun and then feel free to put whatever equip you want in the slot. Assaults stopped being support and primarily slayers when they lost their second equipment slot. Squads should be pitted against other squads, solo's against solo's.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2221
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Posted - 2014.12.07 05:07:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:It's ******* pull ship,
SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME AND NOT BE A LOGI AND NOT ONE PERSON ON MY TEAM CAN DEPLOY UPLINKS? Run Uplinks on your Assault. Dumbass. You fail to realize "HEY, THESE THINGS HAVE EQUIPMENT TOO!" You can run Uplinks on your suit. It won't hurt anything to the links. Really. I do it. You can run the max number of links that you can throw out anyway on a Assaults Band. If you play Sentinel, then your ******. Maybe you might choose a suit thats NOT a suit thats primarily designed to be powerful when supported, and weak otherwise. You choose a suit with no equip. Sorry. Put 30K SP in and buy a Medium Basic, and a light gun and then feel free to put whatever equip you want in the slot. STOP TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE HEAVY AS A SQUAD ONLY SUIT. IT HAS NEVER BEEN THIS WAY. It makes my eyes bleed, vision blur and my head throb uncontrollably. You either play this game once or twice every two weeks.... Or just haven't played for 6 months and have bought into some of the made up forum bullshit. This is what theory crafting looks like in DUST when you are out of touch with how the game actually plays. Ok. Sure. I'll ask the question.
WHAT THE FUK DO YOU DO WITH A SUIT THAT GOES 3.65M/S?
POINT DEFENSE. AND WHAT DO YOU NEED FOR A VERY GOOD POINT DEFENSE? HIVES AND LINKS. AND YOU KNOW WHAT BRINGS HIVES AND LINKS? LOGIS. AND YOU KNOW WHERE LOGIS ARE FOUND? SQUADS.
Sents are good at assaulting right now because of CQC. All the maps support it. They are crap at solo suits because their so damn slow, getting around the map to places you need to be needs you to drop a LAV anytime you try getting anywhere. Squads provide the support heavies need to push the envelope and get places. OTherwise, Its just a slow suit getting to the fight after everybody else has gone and started.
I Live for Tears
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
2221
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Posted - 2014.12.07 05:14:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:It's ******* pull ship,
SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME AND NOT BE A LOGI AND NOT ONE PERSON ON MY TEAM CAN DEPLOY UPLINKS? Run Uplinks on your Assault. Dumbass. You fail to realize "HEY, THESE THINGS HAVE EQUIPMENT TOO!" You can run Uplinks on your suit. It won't hurt anything to the links. Really. I do it. You can run the max number of links that you can throw out anyway on a Assaults Band. If you play Sentinel, then your ******. Maybe you might choose a suit thats NOT a suit thats primarily designed to be powerful when supported, and weak otherwise. You choose a suit with no equip. Sorry. Put 30K SP in and buy a Medium Basic, and a light gun and then feel free to put whatever equip you want in the slot. Assaults stopped being support and primarily slayers when they lost their second equipment slot. Squads should be pitted against other squads, solo's against solo's. Yes, but that's not to say they have no support capacity at all.
They do. If you want to have the slaying of an assault, but also hives or links, then slap some fricking hives or links on your assault. They still have the one equipment slot for if you want to have the ability to support your team in some capacity.
I Live for Tears
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Ryme Intrinseca
Dead Man's Game RUST415
2188
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Posted - 2014.12.07 08:18:00 -
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NextDark Knight's PS3 at 7.47 wrote:fagslayer212 is now online Stay classy. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2256
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Posted - 2014.12.07 08:32:00 -
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This thread facepalm...
Not sure I agree that bandwidth was the way to do it, but complaining about not being able to play more than one role at the same time is cringeworthy.
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1021
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Posted - 2014.12.07 09:03:00 -
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Doesnt have time to squad...
Has time to make an edited 20 min video complaining about solo play "nerf".
*kermit sip* but that's none of my business.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
1028
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Posted - 2014.12.07 09:11:00 -
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Pull a gun out more often, maybe you won't be redlined as often. Why didn't you open fire on those reds at the end of the pipes at the start? You must've known they were a threat to your uplinks? I also don't see the need for all those drop uplinks in such a confined space. Two is more than enough in the right positions.
The arguments about more redlining here I can understand I think if you're spreading uplinks across a large section of the map. But the OP's vid is doing nothing to help against redlining...it's just spam, not tactical in any deep way.
My "Ohh god we're so bad we've been redlined" fit is an M-I scout with 2 kincats and an L4 uplink. Make a break for it and try to get an uplink or two down somewhere we can spawn in safely. And you can't put them close to each other. More a reactive style to solving redline problems sure, but it can be effective.
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Anyway...underlying all of this is a broken mechanic that allows you to change suits and retain the benefits of the former. That's just silly, and much as I try I can't get on board with someone saying this should happen...it makes zero sense.
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
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Posted - 2014.12.07 10:17:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:That's cause DUST isn't a solo game. That's funny cuz it started out a solo game. Not really. The squad functionality was broken in the beginning. But draw distance as better!
The Alpha and Beta don't really count for how the game was supposed to be played since it changed so drastically for Uprising 1.0. And not for the better. CCP has proven they have no problem with changing the game between every release, patch or hot fix. So the level of change the OP is QQ-ing on about is just Dust business as usual.
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1418
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Posted - 2014.12.07 10:24:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:WE BETTER BE ALLOWED TO GET SKILLPOINTS FOR LEAVING A DAMN MATCH THAT IS REDLINED Pull a gun out more often, maybe you won't be redlined as often. Well said.
He really doesn't want to play Dust. He just wants WP for others playing Dust. And the whining about SP is basically not knowing how the game works. SP still gets assigned for time spent in game and for WP as well. Being red lined still rewards players that make WP.
Of course, the earlier the rage quit, the less SP will be earned.
My favorite tank is a Lightning. Just sayin.
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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
682
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Posted - 2014.12.07 13:16:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:
Pull a gun out more often, maybe you won't be redlined as often. Why didn't you open fire on those reds at the end of the pipes at the start? You must've known they were a threat to your uplinks? I also don't see the need for all those drop uplinks in such a confined space. Two is more than enough in the right positions.
The arguments about more redlining here I can understand I think if you're spreading uplinks across a large section of the map. But the OP's vid is doing nothing to help against redlining...it's just spam, not tactical in any deep way.
Original Video shows how a normal match goes for a solo player.. Deploy uplinks then play until there are no uplinks.. respawn into uplinks and deploy them then go back and play as the suit you intend on playing. I posted a close match and if I wasn't managing logi work we would have lost that match much faster then we did.. this shows how solo we can still have a fighting chance.
When you play solo you need to spread out the enemy team so it's more manageable because fighting 16 players on the redline is alot harder then fighting a squad of 4 to 6 players looking for uplinks around the map.
Also, Every suit has a gun but being able to use a gun at the redline does not stop the problem.
Having a requirement of a dedicated logi is magical dreamland stuff for public matches.. This should be a PC mechantic only.
Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
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NextDark Knight
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
682
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Posted - 2014.12.07 13:21:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:No disrespect to the OP, who I respect, but if given the choice between FPS/team play on one hand and solo play on the other, I'll take the former every time.
No disrespect taken, but when the taken given isn't such a bad proportion. 95% loss for a 5% gain?
I mean we have choice cause luckly the both of us are in Molen Labe and both of us can easly find a great squad in under 10 mins. Yet, thats not the point of this..
Over 60+ Million SP and full proto in all Caldari Suits. Dust just won't die on PS3/Xbox. Dustin since 6/29/2012
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
1030
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Posted - 2014.12.07 16:22:00 -
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NextDark Knight wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:
Pull a gun out more often, maybe you won't be redlined as often. Why didn't you open fire on those reds at the end of the pipes at the start? You must've known they were a threat to your uplinks? I also don't see the need for all those drop uplinks in such a confined space. Two is more than enough in the right positions.
The arguments about more redlining here I can understand I think if you're spreading uplinks across a large section of the map. But the OP's vid is doing nothing to help against redlining...it's just spam, not tactical in any deep way.
Original Video shows how a normal match goes for a solo player.. Deploy uplinks then play until there are no uplinks.. respawn into uplinks and deploy them then go back and play as the suit you intend on playing. I posted a close match and if I wasn't managing logi work we would have lost that match much faster then we did.. this shows how solo we can still have a fighting chance. When you play solo you need to spread out the enemy team so it's more manageable because fighting 16 players on the redline is alot harder then fighting a squad of 4 to 6 players looking for uplinks around the map. Also, Every suit has a gun but being able to use a gun at the redline does not stop the problem. Having a requirement of a dedicated logi is magical dreamland stuff for public matches.. This should be a PC mechantic only.
I play solo. I invested SP into Amarr Logi so I could get uplinks down when it makes sense to. If someone else is doing that, I continue merrily on my scout jaunts stabbing ppl, hacking, and dying - sometimes dying a lot, but all in the name of pub fun.
When I do don the logi, I stay in it until I die or until there's no more need for the uplinks to be so powerful. I also put down hives. Not skilled into repping yet but maybe that will come later. Point is, I think there only needs to be one or two powerful uplinks available to my team to push on from. So I use a single slot. My plasma cannon and core nades give my team fire support. That is my role when in the logi suit.
Of course this is just my style, but I *stay in the suit* for as long as it is useful to my team to get back to the battle quickly.
[Edit] Would also add, if you pulled out a gun more often, used other equipment in the other slots instead of triple-tastic uplink spam, you would have lost that match even more slowly.
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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