1. Stop hating on Amarr specifically. ADS still have a massive kill ratio most games. So do any scouts.


2. Logi are the most obvious case for Tiericide. Make all levels of suit have the same number of slots (Probably should match current proto since that's what most balance has been aimed at). Fittings & base stats make the difference still.
Suddenly we deal with a lot less issues overall.

You do realize that the defining feature of the Amarr Logi has always been that it gets to tote a sidearm around, right?

And that by removing the sidearm, you kill, in no particular order, the following builds:

Swarm Logi
PLC Logi
Laser Logi
Sniper Logi

And you also pretty much force the Amarr Logi into running non-laser weapons, due to the draconian fitting requirements of lasers in general, and more particularly because the damage profile is so penalizing that it quite frankly requires a second weapon to actually be effective.

It also means that certain weapons are now significantly less viable on the Amarr Logi; Mass Drivers and Shotguns are the two that come to mind the most... though I fully admit that a Shotgun Amarr Logi is pretty bad by default given it's very slow speed and poor durability.

However, the point remains- there's a lot of weapons that are no longer viable on the Amarr Logi if you take the sidearm away. Quite frankly, if such a change went through... I would be quite angry, and would likely respec out of the Amarr Logi entirely.

As several posters have mentioned, there's quite a few people who chose to skill into the Amarr Logi purely because it had that sidearm slot.

Logis do particularly well with Area Denial weapons, such as the Mass Driver.

Another fantastic (Amarr) area denial weapon is the Laser Rifle, which does ....well nothing up close. Which means a sidearm is an excelent idea. Trading an equipment for a sidearm is very reasonable.

Unless of course you have a valid argument to why it should be taken away?

So...I really don't understand why it is imperative for the AmLogi to keep its sidearm: no other Logi has a sidearm but can fit Swarms/PLC/Laser yet I haven't seen heaps of complaints about the other Logis being defenceless. Quite frankly, if you want to run Swarms/PLC/Laser/whatever and have a secondary defence, run an Assault, that's what it's for!

A Logi is supposed to focus on support: equipment primarily, but a Logi with a support weapon (LR, MD, PLC, etc) can do plenty of damage. If you want to be more front line, run an assault rifle (ScR, AR, RR or CR) because they are more versatile. If we're bringing up suit descriptions then the AmLogi having a sidearm infringes heavily upon the Assault role: Assaults are supposed to be the most versatile fighting suit.

With a sidearm and triple th equipment slots, an AmLogi does a better job at being a versatile combat suit but without the gun bonuses - instead it provides a much more rounded role overall.

Frankly, the AmLogi losing the sidearm is not the end of the world.

There was a lot of discussion on the EWAR Changes, and the Range Amp reduction was made on community feedback on the concentric circle proposal (which me and several others had suggested months before the dev discussion came). As for the ADS and Cal scout changes, there was plenty of of community feedback about the Cal-scout (and the ADS for that matter) and they where, according to Rattati, over-performing. I would love to have access to the data to see if the Amarr Logistics was over-performing compared to the other logistics